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I agree that we need a fresh, new management and coaching team … possibly with some level of experience and success at our current level. I’m less than convinced that Lee Turnbull should be shown the door. First of all I remember the glimmer of hope when Lee left a perfectly good position at Notts County .. only recently acquired .. to come to us. Did he know something that we didn’t was my hopeful speculation. I think he did… but has had to navigate some difficult developments with a fair degree of diplomacy and discipline.He definitely injected some initial interest and buzz into the club which was no mean achievement. I hope he continues to make a contribution to the Iron for the foreseeable future.
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I just came back this week from an amicable weekend in London with my adopted Vietnamese daughter and her London born but Bangladeshi origin partner .. and lovely little mixed race granddaughter Freya. My Israeli Jewish son in law texted me to ask how we’d got on. We had to be back so that my wife could do her voluntary ESL work with refugees and asylum seekers before going on to take our Palestinian friend … who came to the UK from Gaza to escape Hamas .. to look at a new flat. So a couple of questions.
First to you Gurney. What exactly are you suggesting I’ve been ‘doing all my life?’ Is it pre-judging others and stereotyping them because of a narrow and bigoted attitude and a rigid, judgmental attitude. Then … here’s the mirror. Take a good look at the face of a person who operates out of a rigid and narrow ideology whilst squeezing all difference into tight categories to suit his dogma. And all in the name of tolerance.
And one to you 64. Why not have another go at answering the question I asked rather than inferring that the very asking of the question implies racism. No it doesn’t …. and I’m fully prepared to give a respectful and reasoned explanation as to why if you are interested. I suspect that you may not be.
And finally to Sidey. Thanks for at least calling out, however gently, yet another of Gurney’s cheap shots.Hussey was clumsy. When you see a person in full national costume it doesn’t seem too unreasonable to ask about origins. To some extent it wouldn’t be unreasonable to make the assumption that they wanted a conversation around that. If Hussey was a racist … rather than being out of step/insensitive … then she would have stayed well away from her. Storm in a teacup for me.
(ps is it racist to lead an organisation that seeks to support black women who are victims of domestic violence?)Clemence?
Someone’s up early .. or late to bed.
Paints such an accurate … yet sad … picture of our situation.
Blimey Gurney! You don’t have an effigy of the Goddess Europa on your bedside cabinet do you? There’s certainly some religious zeal, disturbing certainty and hardly veiled superiority in that post.
On a musical note … how’s this for some gallows humour. Some of you will know that I was in hospital a couple of days ago for an op. I was on the slab waiting for anaesthetic to kick in. There was some v bland .. supposedly soothing music playing … so I asked the surgeon if it was the anaesthetists choice. The surgeon was a chirpy, confident type … entertaining the nurses etc as he prepared. So his response to me was ‘What. Don’t you like it? OK. Someone put on ‘Another one bites the dust!!’ Now THAT’S edgy. I actually laughed at the cheek of it. I thought afterwards … if it went wrong I could have sued. …. But then, who would know?
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Thanks to all who wished me well. Much appreciated. Had a ‘lump’ the size of an egg removed from my shoulder … no, not a ‘chip’ before you start!!! 24 hours on and no pain so that seems like a result to add to the one against Gateshead last night.
Just a few things to add.
Heath … I disagree that my calling for less vitriol isn’t worthwhile. I think someone pointing out when annoyance or frustration with others leads to simplistic stances, inconsistencies and/ or tribalism is ok and something I am happy to do. Maybe if it really was ALL I do then it could be a bit smarmy … but I have expressed myself pretty clearly in many places on the forum if you care to think back. I don’t think I’m shy of speaking up but I’m not on the forum a lot .. and at least a bit of that is because sometimes it feels that people are just reacting rather than listening and then responding to others.
As far as thanking Gurney even whilst having differences ….. I liked the clarity of his post, the validity of some of his arguments but mostly because it was pretty well free of all the nastiness and jibes that have crept in in the past. (For BPG … the Thanks to this latest post by Gurney was all about another articulate reply …which I have some differences with … but mostly because he joined others in wishing me well with my Op. The ‘so called Christians’ bit is water off a ducks back to me .. if it even applied to me …. I’ve had so much worse for expressing my discipleship to Jesus.)
Gurney I understand that there seems little defence of leaving the EU in the current economic landscape…. If the economics was indeed all there is to it. My reference to ‘all not being well ‘ in the EU in the fulness of time was not primarily about the economics. When I look at the noises coming out of Hungary and Poland, the recent election result in Italy and Mrs van der Leydens chilling warnings in the run up to it .. as well as the largely unreported public unrest in the Netherlands and France … not to mention the glaring across the Franco/German border … well, I’m yet to be convinced that the whole edifice isn’t already starting to crumble.
But … as I stated clearly and at length months ago when I pitched in to a similar discussion … my belief is that mankind is created to operate best outside of large scale conglomerations/Empires. I believe that the God of the Nations knows what’s best for us … as long as other Nations are treated with respect and compassion and also as partners. I note that in your first post you felt that the UK was feeling the disadvantage of being ‘alone in the Universe’. I don’t think we are … and that informs my perspective.BPG … you have both my number and e mail. I’m happy to chat. No need for airing your disappointment with me on the forum. There is a difference between a ‘thanks’ and a ‘like’ …. I think Siderite earlier in the thread and particularly Deerey just above have been a bit more perceptive.
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Have a bit more to say but have made myself late for the Hospital. A minor op today … if I make it through I will add a final bit later
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Thanks for a genuine and logical … and on the face of it ‘courteous’ response , Deerey. You have ‘previous’ on this …. which I appreciate.
I don’t think it’s a secret that I am not in favour of how the EU emerged out of the initial economic cooperation. Although I was roundly mocked for stating that some things should be judged over a longer timespan than a few years I still hold to that. There’s certainly plenty of evidence/activity across the EU to indicate that all may not be well in coming years.
I definitely agree that some of our present economic woes are attributable to the economic pain of leaving the EU. If I didn’t believe that the path it took was pretty well inevitable then I could even be tempted for the old days of purely economic union. But I’m not really even tempted on that.(I’ll post this then add a bit more … unless I get jumped on first…. because I keep losing text and it’s a bit frustrating)
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Yep. It’s the Tory disease. Not human failings. Not political pragmatism. It’s just those Tories. You would never find such compromise or self interest or adjusting to developments in any other group. That’s why it’s ok to call them Scum. Perhaps it would be best to ban them.
I think that is a reasonable and decent perspective, Gurney … and well presented …. even though I take a different position.
When that ‘no food or drink taken in’ rule was first implemented there was still a corner kiosk opening both inside and outside the ground. I bought a tea and went towards the turnstile. This young steward nervously told me I couldn’t take the drink in. I told him where I had bought it one minute before. I pointed out that I could have gone in and bought it on the other side. Still wouldn’t let me in. I had three choices. Drink it outside. Nope. Take it back to the kiosk and have them pass it to me when I got in. Maybe … but nope. I kicked off til the Senior Steward came .. and let me in. It didn’t make me feel loved, appreciated and valued as a customer I can tell you.
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Apparently we didn’t have a scoreboard when we first arrived at Glanford Park. Apologies to Mr Swann. Memory a bit dickie.
Still can’t muster my old sense of pride at wearing the club badge on my ‘bobble hat’ though. It feels like a golden chain stretching back over 60 years has somehow been tarnished and then broken.1 user thanked author for this post.
First time at Glanford Park that there’s no scoreboard. First time that I don’t wear my Scunny hat with a sort of defiant pride at being one of the chosen few. Any more?
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BPG said …’some people believe biblical truth.‘
Not sure why you saw that as relevant, Bill. Care to explain. Were you ‘witnessing?’
or … for the pedants … dollars/euros/riyals etc etc
Gurney wrote : You can’t put your faith in prayers, JI!
Agreed.
But I’ve made it no secret that I have faith in one who I pray to. For me prayer is dynamic and gives me involvement and agency in situations that are heart rending and otherwise saturated with a sense of futility and impotence. There’s much that is mysterious about this … but then I’m not claiming to understand everything.
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Just tell me how it fits in your post. Your post wasn’t anything to do with race… then out it pops. Calm down and stay on topic. And if you believe that the Tories were elected by millions of racists … just because they inhabit your twitter and Facebook world … then perhaps the bigotry you so obviously detest is something of a projection of your own selective thinking.
Praying for the fall of the regime in Iran. Such courage displayed.. especially in the earlier stages before the protests grew.
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Some really valid points strongly made… so why the last bit? It’s so self defeating to play the race card at every turn. It will be self defeating and cause more racism if it is introduced at every opportunity irrespective of its relevance.
Perhaps took it wrong then IA. My apologies. Saw it as a dig at Democracy which it seems wasn’t your intention.
I think it was Churchill who saw the flaws … as I do … but then stated that it was the alternatives that were the problem.
Clearly our Society isn’t majority Christian, Heath .. and our society reflects that increasingly. Whether it is improving as we move away from the Judaea Christian values which have undergirded the modern age in the West is a point of discussion that we’ve had before.
A majority perspective is, in matters of truth, irrelevant. In or out of the EU / Labour or Conservative Etc .. these are not absolutes and so rightly subject to the Democratic process .. although by the tone of some contributors it sometimes feels like they see no possibility of nuance. But in terms of truth … if no one believes it doesn’t alter anything. Facts are stubborn things.‘Ah yes but that ship has sailed already on a wave of democracy.’
Yup … freaking idiots. There’s been such a decline in the intelligence and nous of so many people in this country that it’s time we rebranded that outdated notion of the majority getting their way. It’s just popularism really. The decisions should be in the hands of those (of us) who see the world as it really is .. saving people from themselves I reckon.
We clearly need to warm up better … or something …. but the comeback is looking good. First away win on the cards?
To be fair, Sidey, not many ‘out of the box’ thinkers will be without some element of controversy … especially on this particular topic which is riddled at every turn with financial and political interests of every hue. I want to see a practical solution … too many people, both in the developed world and especially the developing world, will suffer if we don’t get this right. The UK are about to taste the fruits of ill thought out energy policies this coming Winter … and particularly the poor … and this sits in a global context. Maybe the Shellenberger book?
I thought the opening post by BI was pretty reasonable and accurate. It led to the conclusion that the only currently realistic source of sustainable energy for a modern economy if we are to rapidly eliminate the use of fossil fuels is significant dependence on nuclear power. I found two books really helpful in relation to this. ‘Cool it’ by Bjorn Lomborg and ‘Apocalypse Never’ by Michael Shellenberger. Both are particularly enlightening as regards a ‘cost/benefit’ analysis of different approaches and also the concept of ‘energy density’ as per different means of generating power. I remember a young lady with a striking name … Zion Lights … advocating for Extinction Rebellion in a TV interview three or four years ago. She listened to Shellenberger, analysed his arguments and left XR to advocate for Nuclear energy. I would recommend either book if anyone is prepared to be challenged on what is surely the most pressing issues of this particular time.
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