September 3, 2020 at 9:29 am #194231HeathParticipantOffline
Registered On: August 5, 2017
The biggest lie and greatest political con trick of all time. They persuaded 51% of the 70% that voted that this was all about taking back control.
What they didn’t tell anyone was WHO was taking back control. The majority were totally conned in believing that it was the British people who would have the control.
They were wrong!!! The con was complete when Johnson grabbed power of May and lied his way in collusion with Farage to a big majority.
All these U-turns, wrong decisions and incompetent ministers look like a Government in chaos.
It is, but maximum chaos IS part of the plan to destroy our long established institutions and British way of doing things. The power grab is on course, diverted a bit by the virus, but will be complete if Johnson and Cummings complete the next 4 years.
Then THE SELF-APPOINTED FEW will have the control. This is what Brexit has always been about!!September 3, 2020 at 10:54 am #194237NorthumbironParticipantOffline
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Topics: 59September 7, 2020 at 9:24 am #194431
I’m sure the failure of the Tories to present their ‘oven ready deal’ will be the fault of the EU or remainer sabouteurs.September 7, 2020 at 3:18 pm #194434Deereyme66ParticipantOffline
Registered On: May 8, 2017
It was always going to be that way. Mainly why I think Leave arguments like ‘the EU is becoming a federal state’ are pointless. If we decided to leave we would have no bargaining power. Particularly with a bloody minded and insulting mob think think they can call the shots. Why was that difficult for people to understand? Stupid isolationists.September 8, 2020 at 7:48 am #194445
Yep. We’re now trying to renegade on past agreements, signed and agreed upon by this government. This will make the EU and other nations see us as untrustworthy, because they won’t know whether we’d agree to any kind of trade deal and then refuse to its terms later on when it suits us.
No doubt those who ardently back Brexit will be telling us any such fallout from this would be unreasonable from the EU, because the UK should be able to do what it likes without consequences.September 8, 2020 at 8:18 am #194446
Another point. The government are now claiming it’s bad because of unforeseen circumstances. Last year when people urged to take a longer period of scrutiny than three days because of the magnanimity of the topic the government said this was sabotage trying to stop Brexit. Well, maybe if they listened to their advice they would have looked through it further and seen these unacceptable conditions.
It’s either that or they’re fibbing to find an excuse. Neither removes any kind of blame from the government. This is on them, no matter how many times they look to shirk responsibility (I thought conservatives were supposed to be good at accepting responsibility for their own actions; it’s what they hammer the left for, after all).September 8, 2020 at 11:27 am #194448Deereyme66ParticipantOffline
Registered On: May 8, 2017
The only reason they proposed a hard border in the Irish Sea was because they’re happy with a no deal Brexit.
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