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The decision to move the training to Ilkeston was explained by Hilton quite clearly. It is actually a logical decision, although it should have been communicated better and perhaps made at a different time.
Hilton is also actively looking for training facilities in Scunthorpe so that conspiracy theory can be put to bed.
I’m happy to read through the information on the chairman’s background if it is going to affect our club, however it’s becoming increasingly clear that this information is threadbare and not really leading anywhere. He’s changed his name a few times and possibly operated in the grey area with his businesses in the past. That’s all that’s really come to light.
In terms of running a football club, the only thing we can really judge him on is Ilkeston. I’ve spoke to a few Ilkeston fans and their local reporter, many in here have interacted with them on social media too- nothing but positive reports and significant investments.
We are a broken and bruised fanbase who aren’t going to trust easily, unfortunately for Hilton the form on the pitch has only fuelled Paranoia and speculation. However, Some of the stuff on social media and whatever happened yesterday outside the ground is leaving a nasty taste.
If it’s true- and there’s a few suggesting it is- if I was Hilton aid cut my losses and go.
No-one should be beyond criticism but The line is crossed with personal abuse, then it’s then a whole different ball game if his family were there.
There’s information coming to light on here about questionable past business actions (nothing illegal). Nothing that really made my toe curls and certainly nothing that should prevent him investing in the club. If anyone’s got concrete evidence to counter this then post it below.
I’ve got my information this week which I know to be valid and suggests his intentions are in the interest of the club and there’s exciting, sensible developments ready to be implemented which will make the club sustainable and improve the experience for everyone.
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Carver and Elliot were a couple of the only ones who looked interested, they deserve a good crack at it next year whilst actually getting service.
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It’s the players – the only common denominator.
My biggest worry for next season is how many are still under contract.
Getting rid of contracted players isn’t easy.My worry too, Les.
The end of this season will have scarred some players.
I keep banging on about every week but we really have to sign strong characters next year, lads who are going to inspire and motivate by whatever means necessary and instil some resilience in this lot. Lads who have enough professional pride that won’t ever stand for themselves or team mates putting in effort like we have the last couple of months.
Get the spine of the team right and then your younger lads like Shrimpton and better quality players like Elliot will flourish.
Get it wrong and we will finish bottom half next year and possibly worse.
Totally gutless performance, another one to stick on a large pile over the last 5 years.
Players on there again who couldn’t be arsed- Wilson I’m looking at you. Daniel not far behind.
Shrimpton deciding that passion means kicking lumps out of the opposition.
Awful performance by him.If the back line defended any deeper they would have been on the railway line.
Management deserve stick because everything has fallen off a cliff since Notts county but you’ve got professional players on there who looked like they’d rather be anywhere else. Take some responsibility you wage stealing twats.
Thank f**k it’s over for another year
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Seems barmy that the early bird is ending this week, especially coming off the back of 6 defeats in a row.
End of May would be a suitable time. Let the dust settle on this season and see what happens with the ground.
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there has been an increase in trouble at non league clubs around the country over the last few years.
Apparently you’re getting younger lads priced out of higher placed teams going to their local clubs; mix that in with little-no police, untrained stewards and no segregation and there’s been a fair few tear ups.
Might have been Southport vs Chester this year where it kicked off and there were a few videos doing the rounds on social media.
some clubs are even banning u16’s going with an adult supervising to try and curb it.
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Chapman Foster: more than happy with Chapman as number 1 next year. Be surprised if Foster is still here come August though.
Ogle Boyce: Would like to see Richards-Everton offered a new deal, whether he accepts is a different matter. Experienced centre back is a must. O’Malley can go for me and get a new left back in.
Pugh Shrimpton Butterfield Beestin: not happy with this midfield. Confused to why Pugh has a new deal and I think Beestin is one of those who needs a fresh start. Will Butterfield drop to NLN?- I doubt it. Total revamped needed
Elliot Carver: on paper these 2 have both done well at NLN. If he persists with 4-2-3-1 then probably only 1 addition needed.
No news on Wilson, I assume that’s him gone then.
We HAVE to go get our business done early- no excuses. I imagine fitness will play a big part in this league with so many part time. Get a proper pre season in them.
Smaller squad size: using 35 players a season is a good explanation for our current woes. 24/25 is plenty- especially at this level. Use the loan market to cover injuries if necessary but not just to warehouse players.
Do the due diligence on the players: with a smaller squad we need to weed out those who are injury prone; let Hallam be a warning.
Finally, get the right characters in!! We need leaders across the pitch. Players willing to organise and manage a game themselves. Our game management has been so weak for years now.
Over to you Hilton/Dean.
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Look it’s the 3 club stooges, no doubt reverting back to type and taking swipes at fans.
Iron awe, Cliff and Awaywego, you’re an odd bunch, aren’t you ?
You’re wondering On another thread why players are thriving elsewhere, and then moaning at us for stating Scunny fans jump on players back’s to quick?
Make your mind up man.
I Thought today’s interview with Dean was actually ok. Gave us information on who is contracted and an insight into recruitment. He’s never going to articulate behind the mic but seemed more relax than before.
Keith Hill was by far the worse we’ve had. I honestly think cliche Keith was here as a side hustle, never seemed too bothered about everything imploding around him and even ditched the club’s tracksuit for his jeans and T-shirt combo.
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People use the fact we were ‘only’ 5 points from safety as an indicator we could have survived. To be 5 points away from safety that early in the season demonstrates how utterly useless we were. All we’ve continued to do is follow that same trajectory.
I can accept any criticism thrown at Dean as he hasn’t demonstrated enough he is fit for the job, but to suggest we were in any fit state to stay up- even under Nelson who managed 2 wins in 9 is ludicrous.
Regardless if it’s true or not, it’s still a ridiculous signing at this stage of the season, especially coming off the back of a 4-1 win.
Shock, horror we then send Whitehouse out on loan who is tearing it up at Chester
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We’re in deep shit regardless, wondergoals. I take your point on Dean and it’s probably looking like he’s not good enough. But our problems are systemic and run deeper than him.
Take a step back and look at the bigger picture, we are in a death spiral and have been for 5 years now. Sacking Dean at this point feels like changing the carpets when the house is on fire.
Just read on Twitter we are allegedly paying Dean Rance £1,500 a week when he’s carrying an injury. If you want to start pointing fingers at our demise then stupid shit like that will be the best place to start.
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I like Fin, but to suggest he was MOTM was laughable. To even hand out the award was laughable
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Whatever comes after anger in the grieving process, I think we’re on that one now
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Interested Bystander: good points raised. In all honesty, most of us are conveniently avoiding these questions as we all know it’s probably not going to make for a nice read. A shame we don’t have a strong local newspaper to follow up these leads anymore.
I’ve spoken with Ilkeston fans and their reviews are nothing but positive, in terms of evidence, that’s all we can really form an opinion on at the moment.
I may be wrong ( and I hope I am wrong), but I’ve got a feeling in my gut that things might go tits up when the ground completion is due.
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To quote Keith: ‘there some serious scar tissue here’
Keep:
chapman
Ogle
Richards-Everton
Shrimpton
Wilson
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Pugh seems to gain a free pass because he cares a lot. So would I if I was playing.
Good at running around and kicking people but not good enough to be a centre mid i’m afraid.
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Had to switch off midway through, was excruciating.
Pitch forks are out again it seems, another corpse to throw on the heap. Saying that, Dean’s got to start looking inwards after those last 4 games, the players have downed tools and it’s on him to figure out why exactly that is. Performances are as bad as I’ve ever seen. I want to give him next year but if we carry in like that for the remaining games then his position will be untenable.
Seems like we say the thing every 6 months but we need a total clear out. With the cutbacks being made and crowds still north of 3.3k, we should have one of/if not the most competitive budgets in the NLN.
We need to stop warehousing players and having 10-12 centre mids on the books. Get 2 players for every position and a couple spare. If we run into injuries/suspensions then utilise the loan market where needed. Using 30-35 players a year and expecting a cohesive team is just insanity.
Most importantly we need organisation and characters. The 2 opposition players that stand out for me this year were Woking’s centre back, if you saw the home game against Woking you’d know what I mean. Get a solid spine assembled and usually that’s when the higher quality lads start performing. We have 2 proven strikers at this level already in Carver and Elliot. It’s no coincidence they score whilst at other clubs and look useless here.
I want to hear and see players next year encouraging and bollocking others when necessary, can you imagine Bilson time wasting at York with Crosby, Dawson, Bishop, Hope, Mirfin etc in the team. Scunthorpe has for too long been a holding pen for apathy and an easy pay cheque. Are we paying that poor of a wage it’s subconsciously filtering down to the pitch?
We’ve used nearly 130 players in the last 5 years, half a dozen managers and keep getting the same results. Hilton’s got to change an entire culture at the club, no easy feat in just a few months.
Can’t wait for the season end but equally I can’t wait for a new start in August. Very few supporters in the country will have been on the journey we have been on; when the tide eventually turns it will make it all the more Sweeter.
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Who is going to ask for a refund because their advertising board wont be seen due to a lack of stadium tours at GP? Or training days whatever they are.
If anything the club should be charging more because we are getting nearly an extra 1,000 punters through the door on a Saturday now Swann has gone.
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The idea of fans wanting to become a sustainable club and actually coming one appear to be 2 different entities entirely.
A point of interest: speaking to people without an emotional attachment to the club seem to understand the motives for the decisions been taken.
Perhaps a dose of pragmatism is the medicine the club needs; whether we agree with the decisions taken or not, the club is/ has been a poor state for a long time now.
It cannot carry on operating in its current state.
Still not happy with the season tickets- supporters should be able to commit to a season ticket using a card in 2023. The other option means paying an extra tenner each game for step 2 non league football which will put many off.
Understand the reason for moving the training facility as it stands- however, developing a facility within Scunthorpe should be a priority.
Always knew the academy was going, it’s a shame but it hasn’t produced anything of note for a long time now and will turn into money pit once the EFL funding goes.
Never nice hearing staff will be losing their jobs, but again, the reality of the situation is we are soon to be competing in a league with Buxton and Farsley; we have to become sustainable and that’s going to upset a few along the way.
Not sure how the signing of cat 1 academy will work. Are we permanently signing them and then loaning them out for development ?
Can’t believe the playing staff budget is 30% of turnover, no wonder we are witnessing the dross we are.
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