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JohnGaylesNuttingKit wrote:

I’d be very interested in a more detailed conversation with the club about the exact state of play as of Saturday with rumours of announcement videos having been filmed and the FC100000 website saying a club had been found. It doesn’t tally up.

You’re going to get the Club’s official statement (I posted it elsewhere) and that’s it.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

‘wrong un’ is unfair IMO. Misguided I’d say.

Arrogant.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Honestly think those responsible for foisting that debacle on the club and supporters, particularly at the juncture should do the honourable thing and walk.

There’s a more important question: Why should he continue putting money in if his wings have been clipped so humiliatingly like this?

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cassidystash

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PhilAnders wrote:

Anyone care to hazard a guess at the team?

Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp.

On the bench: Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp, Ian Sharp.

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Sharp’s poster boy for the (now collapsed) deal.

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Rene Artois wrote:

One of the problems is that there is very little football knowledge / experience in fortress Glanford these days.
There’s a lad who lives local who’s been around, played for and managed a few big clubs. Maybe a seat on the board for him?

Ditching Turnbull and replacing him with Roberts looking like a rookie move.

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JohnGaylesNuttingKit wrote:

ironingboard wrote:

I thoroughly despise everything about fc100000, but what I really can’t take is this was all done on the sly. Very underhand. This is something that should’ve been consulted with fans before anything was signed away.

Whoever tried this on, whoever’s brainchild it was, needs to take a few steps back. Even better, leave the club, tail between legs.

This is the most important point for me – if this had been shared with fans for feedback rather than seemingly being dismissed as a non-story at the AGM then we wouldn’t have seen this level of outrage. The fact that it has been conducted in this manner means either incredible naivity, a lack of respect for the fanbase or they just knew what response it would get and decided to push on in secret.

Whichever it was, it doesn’t fill me with confidence.

What the ‘slyness’ suggests to me is that certain member(s) of the board are merely paying lip-service to the idea of community and supporter involvement etc. It’s literally business as usual.

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Rene Artois

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ironingboard wrote:

I thoroughly despise everything about fc100000, but what I really can’t take is this was all done on the sly. Very underhand. This is something that should’ve been consulted with fans before anything was signed away.

Whoever tried this on, whoever’s brainchild it was, needs to take a few steps back. Even better, leave the club, tail between legs.

And Sharpish!

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I reckon that could sum it up. Fingers crossed.

Hopefully more to come – full explanations, contrition, carpetings, sackings. Even if that particular deal is off, trust and relationships are soured for good.

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Rene Artois

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ironingboard wrote:

The wheels might have fallen off this venture

https://ibb.co/Kx10ybX7

“A deal agreed in principle” page taken down and ripped up..? Although from the outside the last 24 hours have been filled with our Club’s official silence (which has frustrated a lot of people), there’s no way there hasn’t been outright panic behind the scenes. Frantic emergency phone calls, disagreements, I-told-you-sos, tears and tantrums, dummies spat, etc… Perhaps the Club has seen sense or perhaps now FC100000 have glimpsed the utter contempt for them from the supporters and bailed..?

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TheJuryeffsOut

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cassidystash wrote:

Was the video produced by a professional film maker with a vested interest in the subject?

I remember Sharp lauding the video guys during the panel thing broadcast on Radio Humberside a few months ago, and said he wanted to talk to them about working on a project going forward. If so, joined-up thinking suggests he was possibly referring to the FC100000 launch video, or he could have been talking about providing FC100000 with the rolling behind the scenes content they seem to be suggesting will be part of their deal. Or, indeed, both… which suggests he’s been getting his infrastructure in place for a long time, and that he was lying when he said elsewhere that chats with them didn’t go anywhere.

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Awaywego wrote:

Twas only Michelle and Roj who came in the DRE on Saturday guess he’s picked his side.

I don’t disagree. I’m saying people only usually mention Sharp (and CEO Roberts) when they talk about ‘that side’ of the divide.

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Awaywego wrote:

Probably the best PR he could have done, standing up on the side of good versus evil which is being perceived at the moment when it comes to Sharp and Roberts against Michelle, Roj and the club.

Nobody mentions Achinghead these days during these conversations. Perhaps he deserves some of the love?

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Awaywego wrote:

He bowed to the board on his 5 at the back. And yes we don’t know for sure but Michelle did say words would be had if results continued like they were, they did and low and behold 5 at the back ended.

Integrity now where did I here that, was it Keith Hill and fans on here saying he’d stand up to Swann because he had integrity, that worked well in the end he showed what he was about wouldn’t even take a payoff to go, just wanted his monthly salary which finally ended last year.

A concerned word / bollocking is different to someone micro-managing and doing your job for you.

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Siderite

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Board could select a weaker unbalanced team for the manager to play. They could also select a less favourable formation.

Do you seriously think the Board have that sort of input? Do you seriously think someone with Butler’s integrity would suffer this, mortgage to pay or no mortgage to pay?

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Rene Artois wrote:

Will ‘we’ (the club) throw promotion. This league is cheaper to operate in than the one above?
Gates wouldn’t be much higher.
Manager would want more & better players.
Players would want more money.
Cheaper to throw it!

Say all of that is true, in what world could a group of suits actually stop a team of professionals with professional pride going out to win the necessary games..?

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Rene Artois wrote:

Implosion ahead?
These monthly shortfalls of £65k… are they being plugged by donations from the directors or are they loans?
Sponsors withdrawing.
Goat gone.
What next?

Promotion gone.
Fans gone.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

He may well be justified in feeling snubbed / professionally overlooked, but he’s not doing himself too many PR favours with profane outbursts directly at Director Sharp and CEO Roberts on X (Twitter) – in my opinion.

Regardless, it leaves the Club in a panic situation for this coming Saturday’s catering points. Maybe the vans and stalls again?

Sorry… ah, on X

That’s right, yes. A few different Tweets (Xs ?) telling Sharp and Roberts to get the fuck out of the club, and that they’ve fucked plenty of people over behind the scenes but he’s surprised they’d do it to the fans. Putting vomit emojis next to Sharp’s name, etc etc.

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64 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1X2ssShXJX/
They spend far too much time making little barbs about Bru who allowed them to tag onto our coat tails with the fund raiser.

Every time I see then making out what heroes they are,I just see slime trying to wash away and brush aside past misdeeds.
Blanchard and Ellis who are clearly less chippy than me should never have entertained them.No doubt they’ll be attending a paper bag opening with their camera soon enough and be on the wrong side of history again

This has aged well.

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He may well be justified in feeling snubbed / professionally overlooked, but he’s not doing himself too many PR favours with profane outbursts directly at Director Sharp and CEO Roberts on X (Twitter) – in my opinion.

Regardless, it leaves the Club in a panic situation for this coming Saturday’s catering points. Maybe the vans and stalls again?

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Rene Artois wrote:

Squad/staff/office/cost cutting.
Do you really need analysts, S&C coach, more than one physio (medical) at this level.
Do we really need an over paid CEO? Pre Swann, the lad Beeby did the job on a normalised salary.
Close the restaurant if it’s making a loss. On match days order in a couple of platters of sarnies from Greggs for the opposition directors to munch on.
Feeding the players breakfast & lunch would obviously go too… as we’d have no restaurant and no staff. They are big lads and can feed themselves.
What does the weekly wastage amount to?
What is the cost of a seat upgrade on match days – hopefully it covers the paid for bar, stated to be open throughout the match day. Drink & be merry!
A skeleton playing staff. In the 60s & 70s, first division teams had very small first team squads.
Players wages & contracts need reviewing. Insane to be paying the bozo Banjo £1500 plus bonuses a week! I’m sure there are others on similar over inflated wages too.
Has anyone ever looked at outsourcing the washing of match day kit. That’ll save a wage and overtime.
Players will have more than one training kit – make them responsible for washing/cleaning their own kit.
Do all office staff need to be full time; are they all really needed four days & a match day?
Do we really need as many stewards?
Remember the days when stewards were volunteers, happy to just be involved and to watch the game for free.
Free seats & cheap seats – research has proven that it has to have value to be desired / wanted / valued. In charged v free studies, gates have being higher at venues with true pricing.
Staff IT equipment, do staff need the latest all singing all dancing computers? MacRodwell had an iMac as big as his desk… was that necessary at a lower league club. All image and no substance.
Equipment audit – if it’s not used or over duplicated and not on a lease then sell it.
Company cars & fuel cards – both being abused since the invention of… private use & mileage. Get the bus, cycle, motorbike, train, tram or own vehicle.
Something that we probably can’t currently afford but would work out cheaper in the long term is a ‘plastic pitch’. We’d need fewer groundsmen so saving money.
Social Media overkill – is it necessary at our level. Paying someone a good wage to tweet (how do they refer to posting on X now?), text, FB, Instagram, TikTok etc.
Post news, info, match previews & reviews on the OWS. Just because it’s there, doesn’t mean we have to.
I’m sure there are other savings to be made and can be made if we put some thought in to it.

There’s some sense here. There’s also some nonsense too.

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Sanfran49 wrote:

The fans suss out those that will damage the club very quickly.

That’s not quite true, though, is it? Hence 18 months of post-Hilton division between those who immediately or very quickly suspected, discovered or knew he was a wrong ‘un and those who licked his little round head.

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CMC wrote:

According to a Chester fan a “guy in a suit” was encouraging this Zanetti character. Is this the mystery man in the Directors Box

He’s probably talking about Glynn Sparks, who was on the pitch close to Zanetti and clearly trying to get him to stay ‘on message’. Or, rather, to find the message in the first place.

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Dragoniron wrote:

What is this Zanetti?

It’s a pile of white powder with a microphone.

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Siderite wrote:

Swann was many things, but he didn’t raid company’s money and put it in his own bank account like some spiv. There was some money at the club in Jan 23 so far as I am aware.

He did put the Club’s stadium in his back pocket, though.

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64 wrote:

Merch labs were shite though,

Not a decent designer among ’em! Tat merchants.

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backofthenet18 wrote:

Apollo11 wrote:

Does Goat really have the capacity and experience to cope, and adequately service that number?

He himself has admitted in a thread on Facebook that the ground doesn’t have the catering point facilities to cope with that number of supporters.

Yes but he could have put his vans there

Of course, yes.

But would he have stumped up the additional catering pitch rental revenue that yesterday generated? Also, was yesterday’s circus part of the Zanetti deal and therefore down to him?

Whichever way, lack of professional courtesy shown to the Goat. However, rumours have long circulated about his own lack of professional conduct – though they refer to things during the Hilton era, when anything was on the table. Or chopped out in lines on the table.

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How many times can you be on the wrong side of history?

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Does Goat really have the capacity and experience to cope, and adequately service that number?

He himself has admitted in a thread on Facebook that the ground doesn’t have the catering point facilities to cope with that number of supporters.

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This is the Sharp end of ownership.

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