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Patrick0811 wrote:

I feel if your club had won the league,and not be in the play offs again, there would not be the interest in Mr Hiltons business interests?

Wrong.

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Patrick0811 wrote:

if you constantly attack someone who has moved on, it means you can not/have not moved on yourself

Hilton’s tenure is an actual part of our Club’s history so we’re entitled to discuss him as often as we see fit.

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Rene Artois

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Awaywego wrote:

Little chance of that though if Hilton gets the club you saddos will be wanting it to fail won’t you.

No. We’ll be wanting him to fuck off, and the Club to survive and prosper.

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TheJuryeffsOut, Siderite

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shall we go through all the anti democratic guff we went through after brexit.

… and how’s that worked out for ya?

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Iron-awe wrote:

He started at Kings Lynn and I think the general view is at the moment he is more effective as an impact sub, I go along with that, the threat of him running at tiring defenders in the last twenty five minutes or so has been very entertaining to watch and has brought more goals. Unless through injury he has to start I would make him sub right through all our remaining fixtures this season.

I agree. I’d much rather see Ubaezuonu start and Federa as an impact sub.

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he is young and is allowed the odd duff game, its part of his experoencing building, you know that.

All players are allowed the odd duff game.

Federa’s impact on our season has been tangible, he’s provided a lift, some excitement and some decent action. Personally, I think in the last couple of matches he may have been a little nervous, starting to overthink things slightly and also actually bullied out of his game a bit (Kings Lynn).

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Deereyme66 wrote:

‘Wouldn’t a more positive spin and actually stating the facts that Matlock fans support and welcome the Hilton taking full control of the club by voting for the proposal “A”’

Ridiculous, man.

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Awaywego wrote:

Wouldn’t a more positive spin and actually stating the facts that Matlock fans support and welcome the Hilton taking full control of the club by voting for the proposal “A”

One man one vote democracy unlike yours Apollo on another thread where your wanting to buy votes, where 9 life members could get voted down by one monthly contributor.

One £10 contribution one vote. So 12 £10 contributors could have the same say voting power as a £120 contributor. That’d be up to the 12 to cooperate and coordinate themselves, and the perceived disparity might encourage them to commit their support in a more tangible and meaningful way.

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He’ll get in. There seems to be next to no visible resistance.

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MK Iron wrote:

If you’re a half decent footballer on a grand a week and James Perch arrives on 4 grand a week you’re miffed.
If you’re a journeyman National League player on a grand a week and someone joins your team that scores 20 goals and double figure assists in a season but is on 2 grand a week then you’re delighted.

Completely disagree. It’s not the done thing. If there’s a particular wage structure in place for sustainability reasons it should apply to all.

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MK Iron wrote:

If there is one player worth bending (or even breaking) our wage structure for it is Roberts.

It would be crazy for him to stay here if we remain in NLN but if we did stagger through the play offs who knows. Personally I think now he has proved his long term fitness a few EFL clubs will be making him offers but currently no League 1 or 2 clubs in his neck of the woods unless York win the National League playoffs.

You can’t set up a sensible wage structure in the aim of sustainability and then just go and break it for one player. All the others would be rather miffed.

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cassidystash wrote:

Or whether our lower wage structure offer is better or close to Gateshead et al. Similar situation for the other OOCs I’d have thought.

Perhaps, yes. Michelle did, a little while ago, allude to the fact that some players prefer the security of longer contracts even if that means lower wages. So that might come into play.

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Awaywego wrote:

If the cods can afford him so can we they lost £1.68 million last season, ours chicken feed to theirs.

It’s all about whether he’ll accept lower wages in line with the new wage structure, when he’s out of the old contract and offered a new one. You’d guess not. Who would?

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Deereyme66 wrote:

But definitely not 1899 stylee!

Indeed.

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ironfromafar wrote:

just why Hilton even wants a football club is still a bit baffling ..

It’ll all come out in the wash.

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BigLeftToe

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Awaywego wrote:

There’s nothing stopping you at the moment contributing monthly there hardly likely to turn money down.
Let’s see those direct debits or standing orders being set up.

There isn’t but you gleefully neglect Apollo’s points. Something along the lines of tiered membership with either more votes or other small but significant benefits in return for a higher subscription would act as an incentive. None of us are rich philanthropists with deep pockets. Some meaningful recognition commensurate with the level of donation is a standard membership model.

Like the tiers on a Patreon subscription or a Kickstarter donation, etc.

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Iron-awe wrote:

Wishful thinking regarding him staying I think.

Agreed. I think when the Gateshead offer came in he did the decent thing and expressed his loyalty to the immediate cause by staying. Fair play – thanks Callum. Good luck with your move to wherever in the summer.

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cassidystash wrote:

“HEREFORD boss Paul Caddis said his side will ‘attack’ their final league game of the season on Saturday when they welcome third placed Scunthorpe.”

Not meaningless to them then. If Butler decides to attack it could be a good watch.

It’s not meaningless to us, either. As I keep saying, despite the unlikely scenario required, it’s still mathematically possible to be Champions, with a win at Hereford being one of the essential moving parts.

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TheJuryeffsOut

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Awaywego wrote:

There’s nothing stopping you at the moment contributing monthly there hardly likely to turn money down.

That’s absolutely correct – and people do already contribute to the Trust regularly through other fundraising things they do. Here, we’re talking about expanding the parameters of the membership scheme (so that there is a significant and predictable flow of money).

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MosbyCumner, Cliff Byrne's Right Peg, North Lincolnshire Irons, MK Iron, Deereyme66

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MK Iron wrote:

Even the miracle scenarios involve us having to win Apollo. Probably by a hatfull of goals as well.

I know, but that’s not actually outside the realms of possibility.

For the record, I’m not expecting to win, and I don’t think it’s probable that we’ll get any kind of result. But it’s not actually impossible. We could still be Champions.

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Awaywego wrote:

If i won the Euro millions I wouldn’t even buy Scunthorpe let alone another club, but each to their own.

If you won the Euro Millions you’d complain that you’d been ripped off by having to pay the entry fee.

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Awaywego wrote:

No. most owners of clubs have no affiliation with the clubs they take on or want to take on.

You could very well be right in terms of huge Clubs (which have ceased to be FCs and are just multi-national corporate entities). But in terms of smaller clubs, I don’t agree that that’s the case.

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MK Iron wrote:

A meaningless game in terms of results.

I know what you’re saying, but that’s not quite true… Mathematics says that there could still, even at this fifty-ninth second of the fifty-ninth minute of the eleventh hour, be some sort of a twist.

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Awaywego wrote:

Isn’t it refreshing to see someone with no affiliation to a club donating

Does that in itself not set your internal alarm bells ringing, AWG ..?

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unity iron wrote:

I would also pay a monthly or yearly subscription happily.

I believe many would – though some wouldn’t. This is a point I’ve raised before. Tier the membership, so the number of votes per person reflects contributions – those who only want to pay £10 for life (1 vote), £10 per season (2 votes), or £10 per month (10 votes). Or whatever…

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Deereyme66

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cassidystash wrote:

Didn’t start on Monday.

That’s true, my apologies.

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ironfromafar wrote:

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

ironfromafar wrote:

I wonder how many Iron players n who Hilton has been tapping up teasing with a cash lump to sign

I’ve already stated, it’s 2 of our players, offering a substantial signing on fee.
Neither of them are taking up his kind offer!

Yes i know that ……. i also asked who the players are/were ?? unless its a secret

Gareth and Marco from Iron Hour.

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Sanfran49 wrote:

Waiting to see if they have devised a way for the trust to raise funds on a monthly basis that will yield a seat on the board.

I would certainly pay a monthly subscription to be a member of the Iron Trust, on the proviso that a large proportion of additional funds was used to buy shares, and that a seat on the board was forthcoming in recognition of the nature of the organisation, perhaps once a set shareholding had been reached. That’s how the Club can actually and properly demonstrate its seriousness about deep and meaningful supporter engagement – not this fluffy fan role they’ve recently touted.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

The current situation at Matlock Town FC, with members being forced in to a decision to either continue with David Hilton’s involvement and give him full ownership, or continuing to be fan led, highlights the importance of increasing Iron Trust membership and having more opportunity to control our own fate in the future. If you haven’t done so already, please join today

The Iron Trust is an important organisation around our Club – but it could and should be so much more significant.

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Cliff Byrne's Right Peg, MosbyCumner

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Rene Artois wrote:

ironfromafar wrote:

question
Do loan players return to their parent club after the final game of the regular season or can they play in the play offs thinking of Fadera

After his last two performances I’d hope he’s already on his way back to his parent club.

It’s no coincidence that he’s actually started both of those games.

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