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Difference between IB and this Patrick character is IB has only one target and that’s Hilton, whilst Hilton best mates dad attacks anyone on this forum who dares to question Hilton, describing them as the “usual suspects” and “not true fans”, a bit of advice pal, stick to licking the back sides of anyone who doesn’t question Hilton’s motives for being at the club.
FYI, I’ve supported the club for just short of 60 years, I’m a shareholder and have been for 40 years, I’ve followed them home and away for years.
It doesn’t make me less or more of a fan than anyone else, it does however allow me an opinion on what is happening at the club I’ve supported since childhood.
As for Hilton, yes I have conversations with him on more than one occasion, do I trust him?
The answer to that question is, I’m sceptical and I’m unsure as to his motives for being here.
Why would a businessman who has no links to the town or the club want to invest £millions in a club that’s losing £millions unless there’s something in it for him?
That’s the question you all should be asking.2 users thanked author for this post.
Hilton chooses Facebook to either admit or deny any rumours and knows he can’t fail as the vast majority are gullible and are members of the cult of Dave.
However despite repeated requests from Humberside and Lincolnshire radio stations he refuses to be interviewed.
The question is why, what has he to hide?
A sports reporter on our local radio station asks difficult questions and has an uncanny way of getting to the truth, Hilton won’t speak to him whilst being recorded, why is that?2 users thanked author for this post.
SNOT, jingles doesn’t go anymore the ban at Rochdale was the end for him, his brother Steve still goes as does mad Mick, Steve Pearson and fozzy, never went myself with them but my son and his mates did and they all turned into model citizens of today, it was the tranny van iron at the time and an holigan element was associated with it not necessarily their van there were a few Toppo’s for one, it was the telegraph and Humberside finest who come up with Trent valley infantry after Halifax away when someone with a gem marker daubed TVI everywhere in the pub they never did get anybody for all their efforts who useless were they? but the lads did tone it down after that, great lads and landlords of the country loved them always outside the pubs before they opened up banging on the door even as further afeild as Torquay and Plymouth.
Paul lives in Burton upon stather last I heard.
Long trips we used to pick up the van Friday and away early for a Saturday match.
We never missed opening time at any town we were playing in.
As for Halifax, that was some day, if memory serves me right, we kicked the big double gates in and all went in without paying.
As for model citizens, we all were and still are.1 user thanked author for this post.
Starting to get annoyed with this Patrick’s rambling and accusations on here.
There are no Swann fans on this forum, in fact the opposite is true and I take exception to your baseless accusation.
We have usernames on here because the forum demands it, we don’t have them so we can hide from the likes of you that has no connection with our club other than worshipping our current owner.
Is it coincidence that you’ve come out with the same comments as Hilton did when he was trashing us I.e, we all being Swann lovers and if we don’t agree with closing the academy then to pay for it ourselves?
No coincidence as I’ll take an educated guess that Hilton gets to know what’s posted on here because Patrick monitors the forum constantly and reports its contents to his friend Hilton, hence his unwarranted rant on Facebook against this forum.
Congratulations for the hospitality you showed towards our supporters yesterday, stick to acknowledging their thanks to you on the Ilkeston thread.
Your interference on other threads bad mouthing any supporters who don’t agree with your sons best friend’s decision on the academy, describing them as “The usual suspects” and accusing them of not being true supporters is neither warranted or deserved.3 users thanked author for this post.
How long has this Patrick0811 been a member on irnbru, since March this year. I guess he knew Hilton was going to take over our Club name. Who is he related too? Fair questions I think. Seems he doesn’t think questions should be asked or opinions had. Up to know Hilton hasn’t proved himself in my opinion as to what his primary interests are with our Club. If he really wanted success for our club, surely he like any owner whose heart was in the club, would not be squatting in our stadium and refusing to pay what he has previously agreed on so we do not lose our home. He has done so many uturns and all this uncertainty is not good for the footballing side and in my opinion will not create success.
This Patrick character is the father of Andrew Nally the chairman of Ilkeston and business partner of David Hilton.
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Anybody know if there’s a Greggs anywhere near the ground?
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A post unashamedly copied from a Scunthorpe United fan on the fans Facebook page, I await Hilton’s reply.
“David White whilst rationale makes perfect sense, how about you review the situation properly before make statements (or rather non official social media posts).
Firstly you scrap the youth, then a week later the kids are relieved that you have listened, now, so far down the line they will likely struggle to find a club now you have U-turned again.
How can you expect fans to be fully behind you when you don’t do your homework first and stick to a decision. We as fans are clearly going to have trust issues after the previous regime, and you are hardly endearing yourself to a large proportion of fans with the amount of on the face of it back tracking and changes in circumstances.
Oh and by the way, if you would rather invest to try and get us back to the league asap, why would you employ a manager with half a year experience at the level we find ourselves with no proven record, it’s almost our very own Ted Lasso when you think of it…”1 user thanked author for this post.
Just in case any of you need it explaining.
Today, Hilton (or one of his lackies) sent an email with an attachment to all the young lads in the academy informing them that he was closing the academy and they were no longer part of Scunthorpe United.
He didn’t even have the bollocks to do it to their faces the spineless, horrible excuse for a man.1 user thanked author for this post.
For balance: you are omitting Hilton’s claim on the ransom strip, the land valuation difference, the planning permission expiration and alleged farmers access issues.
I didn’t purposely omit them.
Could you expand on the three points please?
The three points that Hilton says exist but only he knows about, the planning permission was granted years ago but has now expired because the work wasn’t started, the ransom strip that nobody has ever proved the existence of, the farmers access that no farmer has ever claimed, it didn’t stop the planning permission for housing years ago so why should it now?
As for the land valuation, Hilton agreed on the price.1 user thanked author for this post.
The problem is Patrick,99% or more Scunthorpe fans are genuine guys,as you say.
Unfortunately the less than 1% are a substantial number on this site.
The majority of fans I speak to,and I ask,do you go on Iron Bru,they look at me with a blank stare,thankfully.Two things.
Firstly, you are stating that a substantial number on this site are not “genuine guys” which would explain Two, the majority of fans you speak to look at you with a blank stare.
You speak for yourself, you certainly do not speak for the majority of members of this site you foolish man.2 users thanked author for this post.
Let’s put this deal between the two egotists into perspective.
Please correct me if I’ve misunderstood what’s been happening.
The deal to buy GP and the surrounding land.
Hilton agreed to a deal for the full asking price in January and Swann accepted that offer giving him 4 months to complete the “legals”.
Hilton waited those 4 months without doing so and then used a “loophole” that his solicitor allegedly found enabling Hilton to squat at the stadium whilst paying the land owner nothing.
Does that come across as the actions of an honest and astute businessman that should be allowed to be the custodian of a community asset such as a professional football club?
A further 2 months later (now 6 months on from agreeing a deal) “legals” have either not been completed or not started, I assume Hilton has been paying these lawyers for their time.
Swann, none of us can possibly forget or ever forgive him for his shambolic tenure at our club, he has a lot to answer for.
He turned what was once described as the best run small club in England to the absolute car crash on the brink of extinction that we are now witnessing.
Hilton, comes across as a spiv type wide boy looking for “loopholes” to avoid paying for a deal he agreed to 6 months ago and has so far despite claiming he has the funds, has not honoured the deal.
I never trusted Swann and I don’t trust Hilton.7 users thanked author for this post.
Out of all the articles from different “experts” released in recent days this one appears the most concise and informative.
Different people will read it and form different views.
My take on it is that Hilton doesn’t and never had the funds to complete the sale, he changed the goalposts and came up with stalling tactics as the deadline approached.
I suspect his plan from the beginning was to raise the funds via his rushed and ill thought out 1899 scheme that failed spectacularly, I’m baffled that he thought any other outcome was a possibility.He claims Swann must wait for the “legals”to be completed and they may take 3 to 6 months, 6 months have already lapsed since he claimed he’d bought the club, why haven’t the “legals” already been completed?
I suspect it’s just another stalling tactic.
As for his claim of moving into a new stadium in another 22 months, that is never going to happen and anybody who believes that is as daft as the man who made the claim.
No planning permission has even been applied for never mind granted on land Hilton doesn’t and I very much doubt ever will own.2 users thanked author for this post.
Hilton’s paperwork and this article suggest he is willing to pay 10k a month rent for GP.
Yet at the fans forum he’s on record as saying he would pay 20k a month .
Maybe a small detail but a 50% drop seems quite a lot .
He said many things at the fans forum.
None of them have come to fruition.1 user thanked author for this post.
Neither of the them come out of the article very well.
I suspect Hilton will be fuming when and if he reads it, the finger is firmly pointed at him.
I’m surprised Property funding 2’s loan against Glanford park wasn’t mentioned.2 users thanked author for this post.
Hardly surprising as our ex chairman had a major problem in that department.
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Upon checking it appears Dean has been in sole charge of 19 games, winning only 3.
15% win rate, that could be among the worst return for any of our managers.
The argument that last season wasn’t his team holds no water as the club signed an unbelievable amount of players after his arrival.
There’s a pattern and the pattern suggests the manager is not only not capable of stringing a sentence together without the words “erm” and “ya know” every 3 seconds, it appears he has no tactical nouse or control over his players.1 user thanked author for this post.
