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Starting to get annoyed with this Patrick’s rambling and accusations on here.
There are no Swann fans on this forum, in fact the opposite is true and I take exception to your baseless accusation.
We have usernames on here because the forum demands it, we don’t have them so we can hide from the likes of you that has no connection with our club other than worshipping our current owner.
Is it coincidence that you’ve come out with the same comments as Hilton did when he was trashing us I.e, we all being Swann lovers and if we don’t agree with closing the academy then to pay for it ourselves?
No coincidence as I’ll take an educated guess that Hilton gets to know what’s posted on here because Patrick monitors the forum constantly and reports its contents to his friend Hilton, hence his unwarranted rant on Facebook against this forum.
Congratulations for the hospitality you showed towards our supporters yesterday, stick to acknowledging their thanks to you on the Ilkeston thread.
Your interference on other threads bad mouthing any supporters who don’t agree with your sons best friend’s decision on the academy, describing them as “The usual suspects” and accusing them of not being true supporters is neither warranted or deserved.3 users thanked author for this post.
How long has this Patrick0811 been a member on irnbru, since March this year. I guess he knew Hilton was going to take over our Club name. Who is he related too? Fair questions I think. Seems he doesn’t think questions should be asked or opinions had. Up to know Hilton hasn’t proved himself in my opinion as to what his primary interests are with our Club. If he really wanted success for our club, surely he like any owner whose heart was in the club, would not be squatting in our stadium and refusing to pay what he has previously agreed on so we do not lose our home. He has done so many uturns and all this uncertainty is not good for the footballing side and in my opinion will not create success.
This Patrick character is the father of Andrew Nally the chairman of Ilkeston and business partner of David Hilton.
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Anybody know if there’s a Greggs anywhere near the ground?
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A post unashamedly copied from a Scunthorpe United fan on the fans Facebook page, I await Hilton’s reply.
“David White whilst rationale makes perfect sense, how about you review the situation properly before make statements (or rather non official social media posts).
Firstly you scrap the youth, then a week later the kids are relieved that you have listened, now, so far down the line they will likely struggle to find a club now you have U-turned again.
How can you expect fans to be fully behind you when you don’t do your homework first and stick to a decision. We as fans are clearly going to have trust issues after the previous regime, and you are hardly endearing yourself to a large proportion of fans with the amount of on the face of it back tracking and changes in circumstances.
Oh and by the way, if you would rather invest to try and get us back to the league asap, why would you employ a manager with half a year experience at the level we find ourselves with no proven record, it’s almost our very own Ted Lasso when you think of it…”1 user thanked author for this post.
Just in case any of you need it explaining.
Today, Hilton (or one of his lackies) sent an email with an attachment to all the young lads in the academy informing them that he was closing the academy and they were no longer part of Scunthorpe United.
He didn’t even have the bollocks to do it to their faces the spineless, horrible excuse for a man.1 user thanked author for this post.
For balance: you are omitting Hilton’s claim on the ransom strip, the land valuation difference, the planning permission expiration and alleged farmers access issues.
I didn’t purposely omit them.
Could you expand on the three points please?
The three points that Hilton says exist but only he knows about, the planning permission was granted years ago but has now expired because the work wasn’t started, the ransom strip that nobody has ever proved the existence of, the farmers access that no farmer has ever claimed, it didn’t stop the planning permission for housing years ago so why should it now?
As for the land valuation, Hilton agreed on the price.1 user thanked author for this post.
The problem is Patrick,99% or more Scunthorpe fans are genuine guys,as you say.
Unfortunately the less than 1% are a substantial number on this site.
The majority of fans I speak to,and I ask,do you go on Iron Bru,they look at me with a blank stare,thankfully.Two things.
Firstly, you are stating that a substantial number on this site are not “genuine guys” which would explain Two, the majority of fans you speak to look at you with a blank stare.
You speak for yourself, you certainly do not speak for the majority of members of this site you foolish man.2 users thanked author for this post.
Let’s put this deal between the two egotists into perspective.
Please correct me if I’ve misunderstood what’s been happening.
The deal to buy GP and the surrounding land.
Hilton agreed to a deal for the full asking price in January and Swann accepted that offer giving him 4 months to complete the “legals”.
Hilton waited those 4 months without doing so and then used a “loophole” that his solicitor allegedly found enabling Hilton to squat at the stadium whilst paying the land owner nothing.
Does that come across as the actions of an honest and astute businessman that should be allowed to be the custodian of a community asset such as a professional football club?
A further 2 months later (now 6 months on from agreeing a deal) “legals” have either not been completed or not started, I assume Hilton has been paying these lawyers for their time.
Swann, none of us can possibly forget or ever forgive him for his shambolic tenure at our club, he has a lot to answer for.
He turned what was once described as the best run small club in England to the absolute car crash on the brink of extinction that we are now witnessing.
Hilton, comes across as a spiv type wide boy looking for “loopholes” to avoid paying for a deal he agreed to 6 months ago and has so far despite claiming he has the funds, has not honoured the deal.
I never trusted Swann and I don’t trust Hilton.7 users thanked author for this post.
Out of all the articles from different “experts” released in recent days this one appears the most concise and informative.
Different people will read it and form different views.
My take on it is that Hilton doesn’t and never had the funds to complete the sale, he changed the goalposts and came up with stalling tactics as the deadline approached.
I suspect his plan from the beginning was to raise the funds via his rushed and ill thought out 1899 scheme that failed spectacularly, I’m baffled that he thought any other outcome was a possibility.He claims Swann must wait for the “legals”to be completed and they may take 3 to 6 months, 6 months have already lapsed since he claimed he’d bought the club, why haven’t the “legals” already been completed?
I suspect it’s just another stalling tactic.
As for his claim of moving into a new stadium in another 22 months, that is never going to happen and anybody who believes that is as daft as the man who made the claim.
No planning permission has even been applied for never mind granted on land Hilton doesn’t and I very much doubt ever will own.2 users thanked author for this post.
Hilton’s paperwork and this article suggest he is willing to pay 10k a month rent for GP.
Yet at the fans forum he’s on record as saying he would pay 20k a month .
Maybe a small detail but a 50% drop seems quite a lot .
He said many things at the fans forum.
None of them have come to fruition.1 user thanked author for this post.
Neither of the them come out of the article very well.
I suspect Hilton will be fuming when and if he reads it, the finger is firmly pointed at him.
I’m surprised Property funding 2’s loan against Glanford park wasn’t mentioned.2 users thanked author for this post.
Hardly surprising as our ex chairman had a major problem in that department.
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Upon checking it appears Dean has been in sole charge of 19 games, winning only 3.
15% win rate, that could be among the worst return for any of our managers.
The argument that last season wasn’t his team holds no water as the club signed an unbelievable amount of players after his arrival.
There’s a pattern and the pattern suggests the manager is not only not capable of stringing a sentence together without the words “erm” and “ya know” every 3 seconds, it appears he has no tactical nouse or control over his players.1 user thanked author for this post.
Now we know it’s serious.
Even the happy clappers on the faceache forum have started to turn on him.
Somebody remind me, since he’s been here, how many games has he been in charge of and how many wins can he claim?1 user thanked author for this post.
Here ya go Cassidy.
David White
Hold the new owner to account for what exactly????!
Putting in his money?
Giving up all his time???
Sacrificing his other business?
Sacrificing his family??
I’ve said it time and time again and if you need me to keep pointing it out that your former owner is a liar then there is something wrong.
You have all asked for me to interact but when I do I shouldn’t be doing it directly on social media.
I shouldn’t be responding to absolute lies from a man that was two weeks away from killing your club and seemingly quite excited to do so. A man that took away your stadium that the club had owned since it was built in order to satisfy debts at Coolsilk that he had amassed due to mismanagement at the club. Whilst at the time issuing a press release to you all that the club had a 99 year lease and it was protected.
He has now threatened to take legal action against the league because I have managed even with his games to keep the club playing football, he’s suing me and the club and a bookmaker and god only knows who else because everything is always somebody else’s fault.
He has waited to take his action regarding the stadium and still does until such time he feels it will have the biggest impact on the club, right before matches. He puts out a statement on the eve of our first game calling out fans and players insinuating they’ve been duped trying to cause unrest. None of it will work.
I will be speaking to Matt at Iron bru today, i have recently given Aidan McCartney some considerable time and i am prepared to give you at the trust the same, its the one thing i do agree with, unity will inspire success.
Please note that in his statement he referred to numerous interested parties being ignored due to proof of fund issues. Showing that there was a clear process in place looking at such matters. My offer was accepted after providing proof of funds and I have spent far in excess he said I would have to since the takeover.
I have attached below the evidence I offered proof of funds to his lawyer on April 24th at the point he tried to use this as an excuse. It’s quite common in land transactions to pass this evidence on to legal representation or agents. Mr Swann insisted my personal information ended up on his own desk which is never going to happen. If he has lawyers and agents he doesn’t trust despite being far better qualified than him to judge anything then that is his problem. In 20 years and 100 land transactions I’ve never asked my lawyers to forward personal documentation provided by a purchaser.
I’ve also attached the offer made AGAIN last week which is everything he wanted and more. Just to evidence to you all he has no intention of selling the stadium to us he only wants your club to die. We await a response, but given the fact it’s a straightforward offer for the full amount and not the discounted amounts he offered in desperation to swerve the legal work, we had expected a straightforward acceptance.
But please do not issue posts comparing me or my actions to his, and do not insinuate that i owe anybody anything. To date, i have already done far more than anybody else was prepared to in order to keep your club alive.
Please show me more respect than that.
Im pretty certain ive earned it.6 users thanked author for this post.
I’m no businessman but from what Kieran Maguire who’s an expert in football finance we should be extremely concerned.
The accounts show that Swann was pumping in £2 million a year of his own money to keep the club going until he pulled the plug.
Seeing has Hilton obviously doesn’t have access to that amount of his own finance, if he had he wouldn’t be intimating he will finance it through loans surely, or perhaps that’s the way businessman operate now.I only see one outcome, unfortunately it’s the one none of us want.
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Hilton appears to have singled out the owner of this forum, this is unacceptable.
For a man claiming to be wealthy and claiming to be seen as the saviour of a football club he’s going the wrong way about it.
Ranting and name calling on social media, not distancing themselves from burner accounts making death threats on social media is not the way a businessman should behave.
The death threats should be investigated by the authorities, I would be surprised if that’s not already being looked in to.6 users thanked author for this post.
