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Of course you’d question whether is heart was in it from the start S otherwise it would mean fans drove him out no surprise there. 500.000 at least spent to date definitely is heart isn’t in it, people supported him buying the club and that’s about it really, people say they wanted change but at every step they’ve shown they don’t, training ground, academy, season tickets cash only, the manager, the 1899 scheme, please do tell me what he’s done that you actually like.
Can you please read my post properly? I said if he was driven out by one moron shouting a stupid comment. I wasn’t questioning whether he was really interested from the start, but saying so if he went along with what was suggested by you and some others.
Just because you have some agenda (against the fans) doesn’t mean everyone else does when making their comments.
As for the rest, you neglect to mention why such schemes were criticised. What it has shown is that people don’t want change that is poorly explained and not obviously a good option.
If hundreds of fans were hurling abuse then I’d think the fans were driving him out. Instead we have a rumour, with many many different stories behind it, of one fan losing control of himself. And what he might have said is not necessarily the horrendous personal abuse some made out. It may have been, but we don’t really know. However, it’s enough for you to decide fans who aren’t in some cultish admiration for Hilton are at fault. You prove my point. Those who swirl in the rumours about Hilton are derided, but we must take heed of rumours that suit your own agenda and it’s this kind of nonsense which is causing division in the fanbase.
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Any conformation Hilton and his family got abused, or is it all Social Media Talk?
The current rumours are, from several on twitter claiming to be there, is that the culprit shouted “that’s fucking shit” at Hilton, who responded with “fuck off, I’ve only been here for a couple of months.”
Some who deride the rumours about Hilton’s background seem to have jumped on the rumours of family being in the car, personal abuse and what not on this. I don’t think shouting anything at Hilton solves anything, and it shouldn’t have been done, but the the differences in narrative is telling.
Some say that it’s the Hilton rumour spreaders who are to blame alone. Yet there is an opinion piece on this site calling for unity. I fail to see how leaping on rumours of some personal attack is doing anything to help in that, yet those who do will berate others for lack of unity.
I have no idea as to what really happened, but I reiterate that nothing should have been shouted. If it was “that’s fucking shit” those deriding our fans as being the worst in the world need to get a grip and learn not to amplify what might be false rumours to appear as ‘top fans’ and sowing disunity. If Hilton was to walk away because of that, I’d question if his heart was really in it from the start, though I wouldn’t blame him for reacting as he may have done. If it was more personal, then of course it needs severe condemnation and repercussions.
Either way, I don’t think all this speculation without basis on all things Hilton is helping, and neither extreme are coming out well. We should be able to question Hilton, but some of the stuff is not substantiated. Those who want to support Hilton can do, but attacking our fanbase is too much.
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There is something wrong here l wonder if this guy has history with hilton just saying
This forum has been weird recently. On the one hand we have Interested Bystander auditioning to be the next David Icke, where instead of reptilians being the rulers, we have David Hilton aliases.
On the other, we have Patrick, who seems to be building a David Hilton cult where he is the messiah, Jimmy Dean is his prophet and Ilkeston the holy city.
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I can’t recall an interview where he stated we never had a chance, can you send the link?
I wasn’t quoting ad verbatim.
Which means basically, “that’s bollocks then”. Your right again Cliff.
You must have been avoiding the waffling excuses in his interview from Oldham. Oh, and he inherited the team, despite the raft of signings since Hilton. If that wasn’t his team, does that mean it was Hilton’s signings?
I am not out for doom, it is to early to tell, but I am not a fan of waffles about sinking ships and everything being someone else’s fault when other teams may have managed to escape from poorer positions.
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Some of the negativity and conspiracies are tedious, but the dismissals of anything critical as trolling are too.
Hilton deserves credit for saving the club, but his own decisions are up for critique. Some of it will be irrational, but it’s a free country, so Hilton has to just accept that. If he is a good owner he will be able to prove the doubters wrong. Schemes like uprooting training to Ilkeston was bound to be divisive. Calling fans concerned about this trolls will not win any affection.
Nor will this attacking of fans for not being satisfactory enough for Hilton after saving the club. We had all this nonsense from Swann about fans needing to be more grateful or he could pull the plug. He asset stripped us and left us to die. Some of the same fans slamming anyone for criticising Hilton said the same under Swann, even when it became obvious he was playing us for fools.
This doesn’t mean I think Hilton is like Swann. On his Sunday statement I fall into group 2. He deserves a chance, some are going into a conspiratorial mindset, but framing any criticism as trolling and making out we should be thankful doesn’t lessen concerns. It increases them, as is coming on here to attack fans when you’re a Hilton associate. The critics will have a field day about thin skinned Hilton sending his buddy on to silence dissent. This is not my opinion, but what I can see as an interpretation. This doesn’t help gain trust and those fans supporting will grow tired of the ‘he saved your club’ argument after a while if there is no improvement and if Hilton’s plans don’t succeed.
Assuring us that Hilton and Dean will come good does nothing, there is no evidence being offered. It’s more promises, just like we had under Swann. Hilton may succeed, but it won’t be because of assurances based on implicit trust from associates.
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