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How does it destroy my comments? I have made no comment in support of them and said that I had no problem with Kirk airing his views in his debates, even if I find them awful. It should be pretty obvious to anyone that I don’t agree with those who say disagreeable voices should be shut down, within reason (e.g. I don’t think extremists, be they Islamist or neo-Nazi, should be able to incite actual violence).
I an not a far left Marxist. I don’t like these ‘right on’ campus progressive types who censor. Their view is not my worldviwq, but you conflate to make out everyone against you is in bad faith and of the same. As for free speech, the right love whining about those who hurt their feelings too.
There is a likelihood that the killer will be a leftist (however, you regularly conflate leftists with liberals and anyone who isn’t a Christian rightist) aimed Christian beliefs. The recent Minneapolis shooting was committed by someone with Nazi sympathies, a right winger killed the Hortmans, so it’s not all on one side. Your comments smack of an agenda to attack others than to try and understand the problem. I am not denying far left problems, they do exist, but we cannot condemn without evidence. Which we don’t yet have.
Like I said, Kirk wasn’t without his far right enemies, and they have a history of violence.
I wonder who he means by serving those who killed him. I also wonder why atheists would be so bothered about who killed Jesus too, since they are apparently the only ones with bones to pick with him. Hmmm. The problems don’t just lie among those you dislike.
I had no problem with Kirk airing his views in debates. It doesn’t mean I have to like his opinions. People are allowed to think differently to you. That’s the glory of free speech.
The problem isn’t with Marxism or the far left, specifically, it’s a problem with radicalisation. We don’t know the identity of the killer yet. Charlie Kirk wasn’t popular among the anti-Israel neo-Nazi groups, who are not being radicalised by Marxist professors. They are the sort of people who would consider killing others, but we don’t know yet, so we cannot say with any certainty. It could be someone to the right of Kirk, it could be some Marxist, we don’t know. The first attempted assassin of Trump was a Qanon rightist, rightists killed the Hortmans, this isn’t some specific left wing problem and jumping on it to make it such is political gamesmanship at this stage.
I didn’t like Kirk, but my vehement disagreement with his awful beliefs does not mean I don’t feel sadness at his passing. He had a young kid who will be scarred by this. There are some sick, mostly leftist people, celebrating his death on social media. They may be the online few, and it’s important to remember that, but these are the leftists who need criticising. Not making out America’s gun problem is some Marxist issue.
That certainly helped me out. I predicted 1-1 for Eastleigh, so that would have been a roll for me if it hadn’t have been abandoned.
Why should we be punished on goal difference? Having said that, there’s no way of knowing that 2-1 would be the final score.
Having to replay the Eastleigh match is ridiculous when only seconds remained but fair play on the quick(ish) decision on the Wealdstone match.
Agreed, but it’s the rules. Same thing happened with that Buxton game 2 years ago.
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Credit to the Wealdstone board. Hope Sam Cox was given a stern talking to by their directors for that.
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September 8, 2025 at 6:20 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #311003If what Andy has said is true, it’s a forfeit and give them a 3 point deduction to prevent repeats.
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Abandoned.
If you want an example of how totalitarianism takes control look no further than Trump’s USA and project 25, it’s well under way.
Memes stop people getting into the country, Trump taking over DC and threatening other states’ rights with the National Guard, sucking up to Putin (whose alliance with tyranny was evident this week with the show of force with China and North Korea), raging at Stephen Colbert for comedy (whether you like the humour or not), stopping trans people from serving in the military and punishing companies or research bodies for wrongthink. Trump’s America is certainly looking more authoritarian. I hope JD Vance gives us another lecture on our values, while eroding freedoms back in his own country.
Also, a lot of the cringeworthy arse kissing around the cabinet and taking at least partial ownership of private companies like Intel sounds more like Marxism to me than anything evil socialists Obama and Biden did.
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The current government have nothing to do with Linehan’s shameful arrest. The police are following legislation that predates the government by 2 decades and is something out of date. I agree that it is too much, and people like Linehan should not be arrested for opinions that make others uncomfortable, but it isn’t dictator Starmer shutting up free speech. Something needs to be done about it though. The online world has brought us challenges in dealing with issues like incitement, but more leeway is needed.
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September 4, 2025 at 10:36 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #310829Indeed. I have no desire for a Yorkshire absorption, we are Lincs, but in terms of accent and people, I find Scunthonians more like Donny people than the south of the county in particular.
A sad day for the club. RIP Barrie.
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It may pain you as a Hullensian, but my formative memories are more of going into Yorkshire than into anywhere south of Lincoln in Lincolnshire. Shopping – we’d go to Meadowhell or the Yorkshire outlet in Donny. Holidays for me were to Cleethorpes (Lincs, I know) or Brid.
The people who ask if I am from Yorkshire make my eyebrows raise a bit, but it has happened a lot. A few years ago I was in Folkestone and got asked it from someone born in Leeds. When I said no, North Lincolnshire, they said “might as well be Yorkshire.”
August 29, 2025 at 6:27 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #310578There’s a lot of bubbling anger in Britain right now, but it’s important to remember that it will remain. She’ll carry on through it all.
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Multifactor identification for every damn thing, with umpteen passwords, passcodes and biological identifiers, where each one is expected to be unique. I get that things like banks need to be secure, but damn, it’s annoying. Any wrong step means they will freeze your account for ages or until you have to contact them and give every bit of detail about yourself.
Not happened to me recently, but it came into my mind.
“Are you Scunthorpe in disguise?” being chanted. Though the commentators thought it was Stockport in the chant.
I like that Butler sticks up for his players and protects them. Some seem to say they want their managers to be honest, but the manager has a responsibility for their morale. I know I would hate a boss who would slag me off to others, especially in public, and it would sap me in work. He isn’t a weak touch, he will expect professionalism, as has been said with his drills and organisation. However, he won’t chastise players and let’s them know he supports them. Rather that than Paul Hurst style sniping. I reckon man management is one of Butler’s strengths.
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I would say he is more aware of social media comments than he let on at the fans’ forum.
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Butler isn’t happy with the critics of Campbell.
https://x.com/YorkyIron/status/1960031636835504324
I don’t like the “stay at home comments” to those who disagree, given matchday atmosphere is positive towards Campbell, but he is right in that there has been an overly negative standpoint towards Campbell.
So frustrating to watch. Sutton go down to 10 men on Saturday and are literally all over us for the last 20 minutes of the game. We go down to 10 and can’t get out of our half! Only a matter of time before we’re behind if we carry on like this.
Very harsh view point. We were down to 10 after a very quick turnaround with injuries to key players. Also, huge credit to Maison. Will shut up his hecklers and do his confidence the world of good. UTI
Some of them. Someone on twitter was demanding Watson to be in goal for the next game.
Gareth did have that episode of envious and unbecoming snide remarks on twitter about Harness appearing on the Bru pod last year, but he is human and mostly fine. Barra seems a professional and decent guy at heart, trying to be understanding towards others. Marco and Max have displayed the most divisiveness with snide jabs at Bru over Swann, with Max spreading lies at times. Though, they do get it back from Matt Ellis.
I think part of the problem is that Marco and Max have never apologised for their own stirring of the pot, while blaming others.
I think Butler was directing it at everyone. The anti Bru types will assume it’s for Bru and the Trust because they think they have no issues, despite their own name calling and provocations, so assume Butler thinks the same way.
I didn’t say it was fine. They need to look at themselves in the mirror, especially if they are bemoaning lack of unity.
They no doubt think they are helping Butler’s case because they think the problems with division are only sourced from Bru, without the self-reflection to see that their bitterness is part of the problem.
I think Butler is right though and I won’t pretend it’s all one side’s fault. There have been digs at others (Maw, Iron Hour etc) on here and maybe it is time we just move on from differences that came to the forefront mostly in the Hilton era.
It was good to have some communication from the board to the fans, with it being platformed on youtube, so everyone can have their queries answered. I still have my wonders about FC100,000, but it was good to hear everything else of relevance discussed and made clear. Hopefully the board has learned from mistakes and can see that this sort of transparency is what helps calm nerves of fans and prevents any kind of social media blowout. At least from the majority.
Also, well done to Barra for being a good host. Made sure as many questions as possible were answered, regardless of how tough they were, and keeping it so that people in the room and online questions were given equal footing.
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I think Sharp said one of the issues was their launch and how it wasn’t what was discussed. I assume that was one aspect of it that didn’t correlate with what they had discussed.
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