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Not him to start stirring now.
https://x.com/Batesyboy1988/status/1874463484303511856
Meanwhile, Max Bell is complaining to the police because someone pointed out his court appearance for taking photos of the Hilton-Swann ground hearing.
It was distasteful, and I understood the need to move on afterwards, especially as he was one who did say he got it wrong on Hilton. However, it’s a bit rich for him to bemoan how others have spoken about him when he has abused fans for querying past owners. He expects people to move on there.
I don’t agree with NI, but atheism as a belief system would be easy to disprove as it isn’t one. Humanism is, but atheism has nothing to it but disbelief. As the adage goes, atheism is as much a belief system as the off screen is a TV channel.
Players in the right positions at this level makes all the difference. Hopefully it continues and Butler has learned. That’s all I want. No point hounding, insulting him and giving up hope when him succeeding is in our best interests.
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I understand the club wanting to thank Maw for his efforts because Maw has fundraised and I am sure he means well. However, I am not keen on him getting involved with the club with this attitude.
Matt’s tweet was wrong, but it was deleted after a day and the only person talking about that now is Stuart himself. No real damage was done, since no-one had their opinions swayed by Matt, and no-one else cares now. He should draw a line in the sand and get over it. Focus on what matters, not his personal gripes.
If he is to be involved with a supporter’s group, the club need to lay down some ground rules for him to stop trouble being caused. His attitude towards the Trust is divisive and creates an image where he sees himself as the representative of all fans and is thin skinned to any criticism, which is not a good trait for someone leading a group. That’s how it can lead to people not speaking out to wrong decisions. Frankly, I don’t see why his efforts couldn’t have been done in coordination with the Trust, which is more transparent and democratic in my opinion. Though, that wouldn’t mean Maw having his name in lights.
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No wonder so many love a silent Christian.
I would start with an outpouring of the Holy Spirit…but hey,why speak what is in your heart?I take letting go of personal vendettas isn’t on your New Year’s resolutions.
Some of these are easier said than done. Everyone wants peace in all wars, but it’s a matter of ensuring long lasting peace and justice for those wrongfully caught up. A ceasefire or end to war in Palestine is welcome, but without return of the hostages it’s unlikely. A ceasefire or end to war in Ukraine would be good, but it’s hard to commit to without rewarding the Russian aggressor. Appeasement doesn’t work and will only lead to Russia being emboldened to push for more in years to come, when their army is strengthened (manpower is the main reason they have any gains, which is embarrassing after trying to showcase how professional their army was before), just as they have done previously. NATO membership for Ukraine would be one way to bring forth some compromise if the hard decisions need to be made, but I can’t see that happening with Trump, so it will be more of the same in all likelihood.
This confusing situation shows why protocols and rules are needed for such fundraising groups. The Maws have argued that Stuart’s character is honest and good, which I am not disputing. However, it doesn’t mean he’s beyond errors of judgment and protocols exist to provide transparency to all and the honest would have no trouble following them. I hope there is something in place, even if it does seem to be unclear at present.
Well, that’s a coincidence. The appeal has come through, where Trump lost and the court denied a new trial (I honestly didn’t know it was this week). Just remarking since this was only discussed a few days ago.
Susan to do the raffle. Stu the only participant.
Your account is very biased ,but if you think I was “over the top”,your character attack was uncalled for and unnecessary ( as you say we had theological differences),but to attack me with items when you hardly knew anything about me was uncalled for. I will apologise if you didn’t appreciate my posts,but I would be grateful if you also conceded your post was also in error,and a post saying we disagree and we should go our own separate ways would have been more satisfying to both parties. The problem was you resorted to a character attack .
Ha. I was trying to be self-deprecating.
It has been a historical precedence where victims take a while to come forwards, especially when dealing with powerful people.
No worries. It’s good to know that I don’t always speak out of my backside.
So, a civil lawsuit finds him liable for sexual abuse and it’s ‘not a fact’.
I haven’t. I didn’t say he was convicted. He was found liable and was ordered to pay money in damages as a result. Facts are what matters and what I have said is a fact.
He was found liable for sexual abuse though and his behaviour is rather sordid. Though, I am aware there are others with below the belt behaviour across other parties too. Bill Clinton being one.
For some it will be because they ignore all that because they think he can end abortion. They are willing to turn a blind eye to or deny his vulgarities, his abusive behaviour and unChristian aspects so they can see an end to abortion. Getting rid of gay marriage and other liberal measures brought would help with them too.
It’s why some also see Russia as a bastion of Christianity, despite its authoritarianism, weakening on domestic violence laws, imperialism and war upon others for Putin’s thought that they should be under Russian control. They punish gays and liberal thought and that’s enough for some.
Of course I am talking about a subset of Christians, as there are many who don’t think like this.
“How can American so-called Christians and Jews”
The majority of Jews voted for Harris (between 63 and 79% depending on polls).
That we still have a chance of being top should give a hint that we’re not going to sack Butler and the club aren’t going to release emergency statements. The football is rubbish, but the standard of football is poor at this level.
I agree. Both me and 64 are being sarcastic.
We didn’t win well enough.
Aye. It’s Christmas time, so I don’t really want to get into too many debates haha. Have a good one to you and one and all on here.
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I have said before that concerns over costs of living, immigration and worries over feeling safe in cities due to crime are reasons why people voted Trump. For Dems, this would have to be addressed, but it doesn’t mean I think their decision is correct. That is what I mean by misguided. I don’t think it’s patronising to think that a decision others made is wrong, but it may be if you start casting judgement on their character without evidence. Saying a decision is misguided doesn’t do that. I don’t know how this could be articulated any other way really, since any connotation that you disagree with others offends some.
I will also add that some people might think that those who voted Labour in the summer were misguided; that is their opinion. As is mine that voting Trump was. It’s nothing malicious, it’s trying to be charitable because, in life, people will disagree with you and think your choices are poor. I am saying that I disagree but think that some may have made a poor judgement without saying it’s because of laziness or stupidity, necessasarily. Though, some people may be, but it’s not for me to judge without evidence and nor is laziness or stupidity constrained to just one party.
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What am I supposed to say? I disagree with those voting Trump and think they’re wrong, but I must pretend otherwise to avoid hurt feelings?
Regardless of the truth behind it, surely saying voters who disagree with my position are thick is only going to alienate.
There are studies that suggest conspiracy theories appeal to those with a certain degree of intelligence. Could this not be similar with some Trump fans? I think they’re incorrect and often haven’t made informed decisions, but that doesn’t mean they’re all stupid. It may be that they have followed a certain thought pattern based off the sources surrounding them. I have no clue who JI’s daughter is or how clever she is, but surely it’s more charitable to think along the lines of she’s not necessarily thick, but misguided, without any kind of personal experience with her to make you think otherwise?
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I think Ellis worded the initial tweet without much though, especially if his point was that it is unprofessional to have a family member partake. That would raise suspicions.
I don’t know why it needed to get to this stage of melodrama. Surely some quiet words could have done, and the offending tweet was deleted. I don’t see what benefit this public spat Stuart is trying to bring about will achieve. Any issues with him and the Trust should be kept private in my opinion. It does create an impression of self-service and puffing oneself up.
It’s good to see bpg is in the jolly festive spirit of damnation and hellfire.
Found it,did you see him offering Matt’s address too?
I did, though I think he’s wrong in his knowledge. Still not good though to be threatening leaking such private info.
It’s still there. Just checked.
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