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I did judge him on what I saw and he was limited
Of course he’s limited, as Torpey was limited. Beck’s a straight forward no frills targetman as was the aforementioned Torpey. What do you expect him to do exactly, Glide past players and start running the channels ?
I’m guessing you’re a new fan because you obviously have no idea what Torpey offered or what John Murphy offered Blackpool offered back in the day who was a similar type of player.
Those type of strikers are there to get the best out of others and not necessarily shine themselves. All they are there to do really is occupy defenders, lay the ball off and win flick on’s.
Torpey also knew what places to occupy; Beck didn’t. Taking into account the lower standard, I still don’t think he was very good for a target man. Beck was a yard off and I wasn’t expecting him to play a mirror image of Carlton. I said this previously, but why read that when you can make a highly presumptive tweet full of your usual flibbergibbet style?
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I do at the games. No slagging off, no angry voices, hoping he does well, but forums are for opinions at the end of the day and I have just given mine. He could very well prove doubters wrong in the coming games, and I hope he does.
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They are, and Beck is among the more limited. Ironking is being quite cutting in his criticisms of Beck, but he raises points I agree with (no shots, in the wrong place). He didn’t really offer much, he was often not in the right place and had to sluggishly react. Not because of lack of effort. We do have to expect players to be poorer than what we have been used to, but I still feel that Beck isn’t a great option.
It may be that Beck is still getting used to the team, and yesterday was the first time we had worked on trying to utilise Beck with the team, rather than aimlessly lump it up to him, so maybe he will look better when there is more of a gelling.
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I did judge him on what I saw and he was limited. The goal with him on the pitch was nothing to do with his play. Tried hard, but that’s it. People around me were more critical. It could be that his style doesn’t suit us (imo).
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Fadera has to start next match. I’d rather have Beestin up front than Beck.
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Exactly why we should stick with him and back him through rough spells.
Yep, the time for reevaluation is May. Butler made many mistakes, the results were poor and performances not optimal for a while. However, some were all too ready to dismiss the idea that a manager can learn or adapt, with little consideration for the pitfalls of becoming sack happy. Any attempts to say we should stick by Butler with the hope that he can learn and turn things round were made out to be defending the crud that was on display over a period of poor form. I have no idea if Butler will succeed, and the loss of Whitehall is a concern if it isn’t short term, but the detractors didn’t really have it fully clued in with their assessments either, even if some thought they did. We are in a promotion battle, the promises of anything but midtable mediocrity being dreamland were nonsense, as were the claims that we would definitely drop like a stone from some.
Sure, some of those criticising raised valid points and were less certain. Many have now said they have changed opinion again. However, maybe the turnaround shows that it’s maybe best not to form solid opinions of how Butler can’t succeed on short term form. Criticism is expected during such times, but it should be constructive, and it’s important to remember the level we’re at and that these players will make errors.
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I think you’ll find we’re second in the league Siderite
My mistake. I assumed the table wasn’t updated. Still, 2nd and with a game in hand is hardly the claims of we’d be plummeting to midtable like the ‘realists’ stated.
Just looked at Kidderminster and Chester twitter and their fans are bemoaning rubbish football and performances. Kiddy fans are saying they can give up on the title now. It’s almost as if this is the standard of football of NLN and berating Butler while we’re in a promotion hunt because we’re not playing like Barcelona is silly. And some credit is due now that we have good form.
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We’re top of the league, so he must be doing something right. The problem is that some are all to eager to put the boot in after a bad result, but when things go well there is only faint praise and a reminder that he makes mistakes from them. It makes it hard to take this kind of criticism seriously, as it isn’t constructive.
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This is a lie. I have sourced this comment on the Facebook group and this Sherbert post is not liked by a single person, never mind Harness of Sharp.
It can be found here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1019664078503060/permalink/2039869869815804/
If this account is prepared to lie about something so trivial, what else is he prepared to lie about?
Anyone who takes a faceless burner who spreads the same nonsense as Sherbert, with his form for lying, and attacks those who rallied to.save the club from Hilton needs to give their head a wobble.
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Sherbert is claiming he is still in contact with Hilton and has bathtime chats with him.
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“Some of them will take more out of the club than whatever hilton did.”
lol. There won’t be bags of cash with this lot.
“From what I can see we’re no better off under this lot than”
Aye, those CCJs are piling up and the club is about to go bust.
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If he could cut out the silly fouls and needless attempts to play act it would be better. Thought Whitehall had a mixed game, made a couple of good passes/headers, but other times seemed slow to react.
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