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Iron Age wrote:

My point is that it just doesn’t look good when half the stadium is empty during the presentations at a national event.

Each to their own of course but I’ve always felt that those moments are more for the players than the fans. For example, I remember at Wembley you could barely even see Cliff picking up the trophy from the seats behind the goal. It looks great on TV but for anyone in the ground you can hardly see a thing.

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Iron Age wrote:

European cup final, the Inter fans stayed for the presentations.

FA cup final, Man United fans were long gone, even for the runners up presentations.

Wembley may not be the easiest stadium to get to but reading the reports of fans’ difficulties getting to/from the game last night, I suspect the Inter fans had no choice but to sit there & suck it up.

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WonderGoals wrote:

You never know Hilton may actually do what he say’s he’s going to do. Why not give him a chance and see if that’s the case instead of all the suspicion and all these accusations all of the time ?

Because the club is important to us and if he gets it wrong then it may be too late to reverse the damage. See also: the previous owner’s regime.

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Siderite

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“Anticipate they will arrive by 1 August”. Here’s hoping!

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Pat O’Cake wrote:

Where would you suggest the team plays while a new stadium is being sorted out?

The one in which we have played since 1988? The one where an apparent 1,000+ supporters have purchased season tickets to watch the Iron next season?

I’m not saying all this is on Hilton, however the plan to take a club which has been struggling for years and move it to a town 20 miles away, at a time when we’re at our lowest ebb in our history, and play at a ground which will be a big culture shock for a lot of our supporters, does not seem like a great one.

Also, do you really think a new stadium in 2 years is probable?

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So are we all happy about our club being moved to another town?

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MK Iron wrote:

Hilton stated at the fans forum he would answer any questions from fans.

Obviously a fan took him at his word the other day (well done him) and Hilton seemed to give fairly transparent answers.

Has anyone with much repeated concerns tried to have a conversation with him?

I wouldn’t know how, as far as I’m aware he doesn’t have a social media account and I don’t have his phone number. Should I ring the club switchboard?

Has Hilton done any press interviews since he arrived? I have a vague memory of a short interview just after taking over with Olly Turner but nothing since, is that right?

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Can anyone explain to me why Hilton is apparently leaking information out via some fan’s twitter account and not making proper public statements?

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64 wrote:

I do pay for sky sports for F1 so works out expensive as I don’t watch it a lot so can say hey deserve to be jailed for stealing ,these programmes cost a fortune to make even if its the Murdoch doing it

Don’t be such a Tory.

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Northumbiron

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The PL are going to be furious when they find out one of their member’s owners was pirating PL TV rights for years…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeoutQ

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Is this the same Max Bell who is a contributor to the podcast invited to Ilkeston for a puff piece at a time when the plan was to move the club’s operations to there?

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Anonymous wrote:

£345 for a seated season ticket.
Is that at GP?
Gainsborough?
Ilkeston?
Or take your own foldable deckchair down to a roped off pitch down’t ex tip?

Is no news, bad news?

I’d be very interested to know the bookies ‘views’ on this?

Hilton walks 1/xx
Swann bulldozers the ground 1/xx
Phoenix club formed 1/1 (Evs)
Hilton buys the club, lock stock & barrel and games go ahead at GP XXX/1
Swann resumes control and away we go again for more drama XX/1

I cannot understand why anyone would be buying a season ticket a) at that price and b) with all the uncertainty around the club at the moment.

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bartonscorpion

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Northumbiron wrote:

A better sweepstake would be “whose solicitors put the notice on the gates?”

The random capitalisation and wording suggest to me that it’s not a solicitor’s notice but I could be wrong.

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Deereyme66

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It shows a couple of things, one that players look better with better players around them, two that young players can improve quickly.

On that point, I was thinking that Cameron Wilson looks like a player who would really benefit from some coaching, he’s got the skills, he just needs more help to become more effective, hopefully he will get that at his next club and become the next Matt Godden or Kyle Wootton, showing us what we missed.

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Bigger problems on our plate I guess, we sometimes talk about not knowing where a new signing will play – but instead of which position, we’re wondering which ground/town he’ll play in!

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premier iron, lesgeo, cassidystash

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WonderGoals wrote:

Ferrite just going by what was said yesterday, we are to overspend in a bid to get straight back to National League but Dean has a budget and it will be sustainable.

Not quite sure how those two things go together – if we’re “overspending” then how is it “sustainable”?

WonderGoals wrote:

This isn’t any of Swann’s carry on. I wouldn’t have thought so anyway. Yes we’ll be paying decent wages but haven’t paid a fee so far and just think we’ll stick to bringing in free transfers.

I can’t remember now but did we pay many transfer fees under Swann’s regime? I don’t remember that being the case – the issue was always about the massive wage bill.

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Iron Age wrote:

Isn’t that the cause of the club’s current financial situation? The previous owner “gambled” on getting promotion to the Championship by paying more than the club could afford.

Yep, that’s exactly the point of my OP. All feels eerily familiar to 10 years ago.

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Northumbiron wrote:

Not that unusual for players to look downwards for a new challenge.

“New challenge” almost ALWAYS means “pay rise”. Unless there are no other offers on the table, it means they’ve gone for a pay rise. Nothing wrong with that from the player’s point of view, of course.

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Iron-awe wrote:

Agree with WG ( yes I know it’s a rarity ) but if the club can get these type of players in and be sustainable then I say bring it on. We can still attract reasonable crowds next season and if we can get off to a flyer they could well sustain, different scenario to when Swann was spending stupidly on players and wage deals we could not live with even on crowds around the 5000 mark.

That’s the question isn’t it? If…

Matty wrote:

I’m not complaining. It’s great to see some god damn ambition and positivity after a long period of shite! Looking forward to next season now. Hopefully more good news to come re the land acquisition UTI!

The trouble is, look where this “ambition” got us last time.

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WonderGoals wrote:

You’re saying that Ferrite but then again you’d moan if we signed cheap rubbish which you hadn’t heard of. You would have claimed we weren’t serious about making it straight back to the national league. I don’t think the club can win here.

This is a refreshing change.

You say this like there are only 2 options: spend too much, or spend too little. There is, of course, a third option which is to cut your cloth.

I’d be far less concerned if we were signing some of the best players from last season’s NLN. You’re right that it’s a good thing that we’re getting signings made early, no complaints there.

But is this a refreshing change or a repeat or past mistakes seen about 10 years ago?

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A planning application to build 302 houses on the Glebe Road site was rejected last year and a brief perusal of the planning docs makes for interesting reading. Application PA/2021/672.

“There appear to be significant constraints associated with the technical suitability of
the landfill materials and therefore significant re-engineering is required to form a
stable development platform which will not be subject to differential settlement.
The technical and legal feasibility of undertaking these works is unclear at this stage
and further information is required on this aspect along with the potential
environmental impacts of the re-engineering.”

So sounds unlikely a significant facility like a stadium could be built there – the Warren Road site to the north has had permission for industrial buildings (2005), so perhaps more positive there?

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Deereyme66

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cassidystash wrote:

Two from the NL, probably the best level we’re likely to attract.

A league above where we will be playing? Sounds about right.

God knows if they’ll be any good but the experience of the last 5 years or more suggests that it’s unlikely!

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Madden must be the most overrated player in the last 20-30 years of the club’s history, I think people just romanticise him because we’ve had so much dross since he left. But he was nowhere near the strikers who had come in the years before him (not fit to lace Hayes’ boots, for example).

Wootton has definitely matured physically and in terms of understanding his game since leaving the Iron but there was definitely potential there. He was better than anyone signed to replace him.

Always thought Jarvis looked pretty decent for me, although never likely to be that prolific he could have made an adequate own brand Steve Torpey for us this season.

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Pat O’Cake wrote:

So you think 10 weeks is long enough to sort out years of mis-managment?

I think a healthy dose of scepticism is a pre-requisite for any football fan.

Obviously settling the tax debt was important but, otherwise, what positive signs have you seen since Hilton’s takeover?

Because I would point out the following:
– Proposing to move the club to Ilkeston – on non-matchdays
– Proposing to shut down the academy before Tony Daws explained the situation
– Appointing Jimmy Dean & the scatter-gun transfer policy

If we hadn’t had the Swann era, do you reckon you would be cutting him less slack?

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Hang on, why was the national anthem being played before a football match? Are we in America?

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Lord Kitchener wrote:

We have fallen way too far, and this was directly because of our former chairman. Whatever your doubts about the new chairman and manager, we have to get behind them

The first sentence is the reason why the second sentence should not apply.

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Interested Bystander

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Anonymous wrote:

Both leagues have 24 teams – too many IMHO. 46 games on sub optimal pitches will result in injuries.

It’s like football didn’t exist 20 years ago! Besides, many of the grounds in NLN will have artificial pitches.

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The Iron Hour is 15 minutes Iron & 45 minutes of padding, which isn’t a great ratio. And the laddish “bantz” is pretty tedious too. The last one I heard ended with 10 minutes of laughing about something that wasn’t even that funny. Glad they’re having fun, and I think they’ve got a couple of people on there who could be a lot better, but it’s not for me at the moment.

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North Lincolnshire Irons

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At some point, we are going to have to realise that just changing all the players every 6 months isn’t going to solve our problems. Where’s the coaching? When is a manager going to improve some players and get more out of them? What about the people signing the players and scouting new ones?

This endless churn just creates instability.

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Awaywego wrote:

Owner puts club up for sale followingfan abuse, just saying!

Club owners are the real victims in the mis-management of football clubs all over the country.

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