It’s a disgrace that Meddlesome was allowed to resign.He should have been sacked and his Judas reward titles removed.
Just reading how he advised bankers to threaten the chancellor in his own government.This is the New labour internal core that Starmer loves and owes so much
Certainly is some serious shite hitting the fans now regarding Mandelson and Andrew Windsor, if any of the stuff regarding Mandelson being reported is proven it will be jail for him. Windsor won’t say a thing and the establishment will still probably close ranks around him, it all stinks but are we surprised?
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Did try and warn you, on here, about Stasi Starmer, three years ago.
You deleted my post.
Changed your mind?
Are you actually surprised at him, given he trained in Hungary during their Communist times?
I expect you to delete this too.
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I wonder if Noam Chomsky and Fidel Castro were Blairite luvvies.
This scandal seems to hint at people of influence, of all backgrounds, using Epstein and his sordid links for their own gains, be it through their own perverse desires or trying to mingle with the elite.
JK Rowling is particulaly egregious in the link, given that all I can find is that he was turned away from an opening party of a Harry Potter show and wasn’t in contact with Rowling specifically. Mandelson – piece of s**t and always has been, which Starmer is deservedly getting criticism for.
It’s not really a deflection, is it, when I say that Mandelson was a wrong un and Starmer was wrong to appoint him as ambassador? I said nothing about Mandelson having ‘no clue’. Rowling is different because there isn’t even a suggestion she met him, nor was he invited by her, seemingly. The point is that you are making out that this was some Blairite thing when people of all persuasions had involvement.
This is Starmer’s and the Blairites finally getting their comeuppance, they spent too much of their energy creating internal labour wars with the Aid of a very willing right wing press and never understood anything outside of the parliamentary bubble.IT looks like Starmer is now handing us over to a Far right government unless he can pull a miracle out of the that.
The man who divided the plot to trash the 2017 is now quibbling about not being arrested on on agreed date,you couldn’t make it up how the powerful are treated.Monwondervthese cosseted clowns wanted rid of Corbyn
We all have agendas,I’ve always found that particular accusation rather obvious ,as if it means the accuser doesn’t.Our lives are driven by agendas.Your’s is pretty clear,Sir Moderate has too many to count.
We all have biases, but I am not shoehorning this into your hatred of centrists. Now trying to go into broad brush statements about motives of anyone opposing Saint Jeremy. I may have my biases, but I haven’t stretched that far in this thread; my agenda is far less clear and lop sided as yours.
I have no care for Mandelson – he was a creep and a dodgy git before all this, but no doubt that will be me trying to protect him again.
your friend’s friend doesn’t have to be your friend. Mandelson’s psyche is what helped trash 2017 for internal party politics and gave us the Torys that year .It’s this psyche that is now finally bringing him down . He’s gone from Gold medal Frances Urquhart to pound shop .
For that we must all be grateful ,the careful way they “blast” him suggest there’s skeletons still hiding and they’re all cacking it .Anyone seen T Blair his fellow 2017 conspirator ?
The house of cards won’t tumble down because they still have friend sat Rupert’s shack and they who control the media control the narrative.
I see. Guilt by association through being a fan of more moderate politicians.
Funny how damping Corbyn for association with Press TV or Holocaust deniers like Paul Eisen was a smear, but merely preferring more centrist Labour is bad because they may have interacted with Mandelson.
They worked closely with him ,he was an architect of new Labour,part of the inner circle.He was promoted ,had to be sacked ,failed upwards to the EU gravy train old boy network,,got found out again.Planned and executed labours 2017 failure ,got rewarded by Starmer despite the world telling Starmer he was trouble,which he no don’t by knew.Not to mention putting him in the house of Lords despite two scandals seeing him sacked previously.
You don’t get that without knowing where the skeletons are in politics.
I haven’t disputed that Starmer was an idiot for involving himself with Mandelson. I thought it was a stupid decision at the time, but this doesn’t mean he or every more centre Labour person who interacted with him knew the specifics. Not like that exonerates Starmer for poor decisions.
It’s not a case of evil centrists compared to morally pure leftists. Epstein had people of all persuasions bullied. It has seemingly been Gordon Brown who has been open in detailing what he knows about Mandelson, even if he might have a personal motive for this.
I reckon Epsteins attention to photographic archiving his “ friends “ proved to be a fatal mistake, nowhere to hide in prison from powerful men on the outside with contacts on the inside. Just thought I’d chuck that in for a change of tack from this back and forth stuff which appears to be going nowhere.
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