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TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

You are right it is 99% incompetence, by the refs and the system that runs them. The system for promoting refs isn’t working Les.

You cannot reasonably expect a human referee to get technical decisions right 100% of the time. It’s just not possible to avoid the occasional error or even the occasional seemingly ridiculous decision. What you are entitled to reasonably expect is a high degree of competence and unbiased judgement.

Comments from the referee a few games ago (who said that Whitehall’s game is going down and that’s why he didn’t give the penalty) were alarming. In addition, last night was a disgrace – the booking of Whitehall was a joke and the disallowed goal was a tragedy.

All said, on the whole I don’t think the referees have been that good this season – but nor have they been that bad.

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lesgeo wrote:

I fully accept that this is rarely deliberate – but ‘subconscious bias’ is an identifiable phenomenon.

Exactly the same thing when Whitehall wasn’t awarded the penalty a few games ago when it was more than clear, and the referee afterwards saying that Whitehall’s game is going down easily.

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lesgeo

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They will when they see posters using ‘on’ when ‘at’ is the correct preposition.

Strikes me he may be a bit of a twon.

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sufc_not_on_tour

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cassidystash wrote:

Not really.
“Promotion Finals in the Vanarama National League North and South will take place at the home ground of the finalist club who finished higher in the league table during the regular season.”

Yes, thanks for pointing that out! Hands up that’s my mistake – I did not actually see that paragraph when skim reading as I hadn’t scrolled down beyond the NLN final info (and I had definitely read somewhere else that all three finals were to be played at Wembley).

The point stands, though – switching the date just a few weeks before, after months of the info being publicly available, is a bit poor.

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Wembley Stadium, by the way, for those who did not already know.

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64 wrote:

where has the excitement
gone? fans just seem flat

I’d suggest this is to do with pissing away pissing the league.

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Awaywego wrote:

How much more expensive did you expect Apollo11 a 50%increase in under 18s seems way over the top to me.

I’m not under 18 so I didn’t look at the Under 18s section.

As an adult, the Early Bird for the current season worked out at £9-something per match for the terrace, and next season will work out at £10-something. An increase of around a single pound. I was anticipating perhaps in the region of £12.50 or £13 Early Bird and then two quid more than that when the full prices kick in.

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64 wrote:

I’d say Hilton’s “wow price” hamstrung them somewhat, Left them with a £300 barrier to break through, had he not set his super cheap tickets so low and a bit nearer the £300 line they could ?

Yes, pretty much what I was getting at. It’s generally accepted that there were ‘flights of fancy’ going on during David Hilton’s ownership – and I actually always thought the low season ticket price was one of them. It was too good an opportunity to miss. I’ve spent the season expecting that to be redressed when the time comes for renewal – but bearing in mind inflation and blah blah blah, it remains a very low price which can’t be doing the board too many favours. Seems odd, to me.

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Ferrite wrote:

At first glance, it looks like the board has got the balance right between cutting prices to attract fans and making sure the club still earns enough money. Well done.

Don’t get me wrong, I still think English football is far too expensive on the whole but we have to be realistic that the club can’t put itself at a huge disadvantage by cutting prices too far.

I’d expected them to be more expensive than they are, but they still seem a bit ‘Hilton plucked a wow price out of the air’.

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WonderGoals wrote:

According to Jimmy, Evans was sent off for a supposed knee in the face…

From where I was, it was difficult to see exactly who did what, but I’m pretty sure I saw a leg flash out as someone took a kick at one of theirs in the immediate aftermath of play being stopped. To be honest I’d thought it was Whitehall so was surprised to see Evans get his marching orders.

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BarnardFoxtonBarker..

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Where have I typed that I’m over excited and claiming we’ve morphed into Brazil ?. All I was commenting on is our big change up in playing style and how he look much better because of it.

Personally, I didn’t mean that you specifically had got over-excited. I meant ‘people in general’ shouldn’t. We’re doing ok but the teams we’ve played have been rubbish.

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BigLeftToe wrote:

Smoke and mirrors… don’t get too excited after playing two of the worst teams we’ve ever shared a pitch with. Wouldn’t read too much into it.

Agreed – don’t get too excited as the teams we’ve played have been garbage. However, our style of play has definitely changed.

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64 wrote:

too much slow mo ,too much misdirection by poor managers and players away from their own failings, fans who know nothing about the rules egged on by awful TV pundits and you get the perfect storm. “that was never a red” when a player gets a second yellow and off etc, usually after a yellow and several more chances given by the ref . VAR has made it worse, ages pouring over a slomo that takes all context away which leads to hours of TV discussion and ultimately blaming the ref from both sides.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67696001ears

The top level of the sport is becoming a different sport. Unfortunately due to its TV ubiquity the perceptions and opinions around that filter down to our level.

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64 wrote:

Quite uncomfortable to watch

Brutal.

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backofthenet18

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ironfromafar wrote:

… be interested to see JDs next move for Saturday after last nights debacle.

From the sofa to the TV unit to get the remote control.

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Ferrite wrote:

Sounds like the sort of story you’d hear in the pub and I’m all in favour of those!

It’s plausible, which is why it would never pass pub muster.

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Ferrite

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Ferrite wrote:

Who knew at the time that that game, and perhaps Whitehall’s red card, would be such a turning point in our season?

…what has gone wrong? How has Dean managed to get so little out of this team since New Year?

Pure conjecture this, of course, but is there anything in the fact Whitehall was an expectant father with a baby due very soon, at that moment? Perhaps he wanted paternity leave which was argued against ‘for the good of the team’… and then Dean took time off on a matchday to go to his brother’s wedding… Double standards, unrest gets in and sets in…

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Iron-awe wrote:

… was always going to be a long way back…

It wasn’t. They were in the driving seat to control the division and go up as champions at the first time of asking – but they’ve blown it.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Are they thinking that if they play poorly enough for long enough then Jimbob will be sacked?

It’s more likely that they’ve been told the club can’t actually afford to pay the promotion bonus Hilton promised, and that the club can’t afford new contracts / improved wages.

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ironfromafar wrote:

I see Gareth of Ironarmy fame is adding more game time into his YT vids…

He needs to think carefully about this as, for legal purposes, YouTube is considered broadcasting and he doesn’t have the rights.

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64 wrote:

I got a couple of lines in and stopped

Maybe he should have done the same.

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Cliff Byrne's Right Peg

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Presuming this is genuine, that’s several times now Hilton has had a pop at Simon Elliott.

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I don’t want to resort to hoofball, but I would like to see something more direct than we’ve had. We lost the game for whatever reason at South Shields (that first goal was ridiculous), but I think we looked a little closer to some sort of balance between footballing styles during the first half.

The link-ups by McIlinden and Denton down the left were very promising, and they look like they could get into a bit of a groove and be productive. I was impressed with McIlinden – movement and a little bit more speed of thought.

We’re definitely lacking a striker, an ‘old fashioned’ fox in the box.

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Will we?

No.

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Rene Artois wrote:

Alfreton will beat us Saturday.

Get Torpey in with Butler assistant.

That’s an extra wage, though.

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sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

… that’s quite a big hotel…

Either way, you’re right!

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sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

120 bed hotel on 3 floors, that’s quite a big hotel.
The company submitting the plans already own Taco Bell and Burger King.

But does ‘bed’ mean ‘bed’ or ‘space to sleep’? Does the 120 mean 120 bedrooms or sleep spaces for 120 people (therefore potentially 60 beds and therefore (you’d assume) 20 rooms per floor not 40..?

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Apollo11 wrote:

Looks like there’s to be another drive-thru fast food or coffee joint, adjacent to what is currently Burger King.

… a Starbucks.

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Looks like there’s to be another drive-thru fast food or coffee joint, adjacent to what is currently Burger King.

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inspector wrote:

Bookies prey on people. People lose billions of pounds each year and those sums go to the bookies and their shareholders. As a generalisation, the rich get richer and …!

You could say the same about HMRC.

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