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lesgeo wrote:

Hopefully, teams that like to spike our guns with negativity are gonna be a bit stressed when they have to play to win!

That’s actually a really valid point. How many teams have we seen that have been set up as negative, to frustrate our play? You’d expect a couple of one-off ‘winner takes all’ kind of games to be much more open, I think..?

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cassidystash wrote:

Peter Swann had amazing plans to build a new stadium.

I think a difference is that Kelvin has a good reputation for building success in catering at Hull KR, seemingly, while Swann only ever had half-arsed entertainment venues of dubious success at the time of his arrival.

I’m sure they it was probably a shitshow behind the scenes, in business or financial terms, whatever… but the Sands club in Gainsborough was actually good while it lasted – not half-arsed, at least not on the occasions I visited for dinner / dance / cabaret style evenings in a post-Sinatra / wannabe Goodfellas style.

My theory is the relative success of that venue led Swann to overestimate himself and his judgement, and continually bite off more than he actually had the chops to chew.

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Great. A serious food and hospitality professional as opposed to just someone who has a burger-flipping business.

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Iron-awe wrote:

I’d have given Whitehall MOTM today, he did what I’ve always wanted him to do just play like a proper centre forward, great watch second half

I’d suggest it was his best game for Scunthorpe so far.

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ironfromafar wrote:

Im just hoping Whitehall doesnt go Daft Vadar n get sent off in next 2 games ..i take it suspensions carry over and he would miss the playoffs .. he was close to marching against Hereford going by Gareths Ironarmy vlog.

Really surprised he didn’t get his second yellow card of the match for that incident – so, for me, the ref being really sensible / lenient has completely balanced out the penalty that wasn’t given a few matches ago that there was all that furore about.

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If it goes in our favour there’ll be plenty of Hand Solos.

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10 (seats) x 23 (games) x 18 (terrace price) = £4,140

I’d say 3k is a massive undersell.

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Northumbiron

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Siderite wrote:

I have heard stories. Stories which make it no surprise that The Smoking Goat lost out on the gig, no matter how people liked the food.

It’s a shame. *sniff*

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64 wrote:

Anyone else sick of his embarrassing antics? That trap door that seemed to launch him not long after he came on must surely be dug up from the pitch. If he put half the effort he puts into cheating into motioning towards the ball in the box he might actually become a good player, as it is he just waits for the ball,1st thing you’re taught not to do.

Despite the fact he’s scored quite a few goals this season I think Whitehall has suffered from playing as a lone striker. The JD system highlights the shortcomings in his game (including what you mention) when, actually, there’s a very good player in there.

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64 wrote:

I reckon when you consider the recent online behaviour of our fans this twitter post has to be considered extremely irresponsible

It’s also highly unprofessional. I expect more from my football club, even when passions are running high.

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Ferrite, another fed up fan

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Deereyme66 wrote:

What you mean blokes pushing 60 not wanting to risk getting battered by a load of drunk (quite possibly coked up too nowadays) fitter youths / young men? Get real! I’ve already said I’ve made remarks in the past and got punched for it. Maybe time for younger guys who heal quicker and better to start saying something? Or better still, for the perpetrators to learn some respect and civility? Too much coke and drink flying about these days, as frequently glorified or humoured on the Facebook page.

It’s not just a punch-up anymore, it’s the risk of a knock-over and repeated head-stamp, too.

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Deereyme66

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MK Iron wrote:

… despite him being 2 yards from Whitehall when rhe booking incident occurred – which was not a foul by either player by the way…

It was a heavy collision but there was absolutely nothing ‘in it’ from either of them.

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tas wrote:

With regard to the disallowed goal last night I just wondered what is the role of linesman these days, they are there to assist the referees but what rules do they operate under? It should have been clear from a side view that no one was near the keeper and he should have flagged to advise the ref unless he didn’t see it but he ought to have seen it or is it that the referees made a decision and that’s it.

Maybe, then, it’s to do with the power dynamic between refs and linesmen?

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I understand he may not have had a clear view, but any competent ref would have gone over and asked the linesman for a second opinion. All he did was blow up straight away thinking he saw something which didn’t even happen.

That’s just not good enough.

But if he believed something happened then why seek second opinion? What else is he supposed to do other than commit to the decision based on what he saw?

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To disallow that goal last night in my opinion was more than just incompetency, he saw something which didn’t even happen. It’s surely impossible for a ref to a get a decision so wrong and just chalk it down to a human error.

Butterfield was a a few yards away from their GK when he slapped the ball into his own net !

Just looking for the possible explanation with the least edge to it, for the sake of everyone’s sanity…

I’d suggest that because he didn’t have a clear view (ie. sight of the keeper was obscured by Butterfield’s back), when the keeper went down seeming to have been fouled then the referee had no option other than working on the balance of probability that he had. The lino might have been able to clarify, but perhaps he didn’t have a clear view either.

In the non-VAR leagues, who does the rule book favour in these situations?

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Deereyme66

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64 wrote:

I do find it odd that a man who told a judge he couldn’t read a sign due to poor eyesight could see enough to get so angry at this, I smell perjury

A former law student needed to rely on a notice sign to know that photo taking in court is prohibited?

It was vanity. He was just trying to appear excitingly close to power.

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Awaywego wrote:

Lot of moaning from 64 and yet he did sod all when the woman lino was abused, some folk eh.

That’s perhaps a little bit unfair – 64 did say the abusers “swarmed”, which suggests that there were quite a lot of them. Who would tackle that?

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Awaywego wrote:

There you go you heard far worse in school Deerey, why do you expect any different away from school i don’t.

Er, because we’re not 15-16 year olds anymore? Because the people who are the worst culprits are grown men, apparently? Not rocket science. Of course I expect to hear some swearing at matches. I don’t think we need to hear it incessantly throughout the match so loud. It’s a bad influence on younger folk and children and frankly tedious and distracting. Trying to watch a match with some idiot shouting and swearing near you throughout, or coming over on the speaker, is rubbish. Don’t know what you don’t understand about the point I’m making tbh. But hey ho.

They’re not ultimate solutions to the problems, but they might be fixes for you. Move, and turn the TV down.

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cassidystash wrote:

When they countered we had 2 or 3 players in our box, when we attacked they had 8 or 9 back because we took too long.

This, over and over and over and over again this season.

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Random wrote:

Look at it from a different angle, would your employer be happy if you deliberately made bad decisions and what do you think he would do if you did?

So you’d find it acceptable for your boss to fine you for mistakes because one of his customers tells him they suspect you’re making mistakes on purpose?

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Erm never said reply the match, although it would be nice to hear that the official has had a ticking off and maybe gets a one match ban and a fine. Kind of a bit like what happens to players when they get a red card. There are conspiracy theories flying around that the refs are against scunny in this league, surely if the refs were fined for exceptionally bad decisions then that would expel such theories as no refs would deliberately make a bad decision if it hit him in the pocket.

Would you want to work under those conditions?

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64 wrote:

apparently a certain bespectacled ginner had a few choice words too

Were they his, or did he get them from here?

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Ferrite wrote:

I don’t have a problem with swearing but endless abuse and tirades are just tedious. The local councillor was clearly audible on the stream last night, boorishly abusing the referee over & over again.

Though not as much as our manager who got involved with someone in the crowd, abused the referee enough to get a red card, and then wasn’t big enough to answer questions from the media.

It’s in the rules / directives that if you’ve been red carded you can’t talk to the media after the game.

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64 wrote:

“Manning up” cuts both way, we got a goal that didn’t cross the line at B Stortford and an unlikely penalty ,we only really care about others mistakes,human nature I guess?

I agree with you that it cuts both ways.

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Nice interview by Brad James their goalkeeper completely admitting nobody touched him and it was his mistake. Ref association needs to watch that aswell as the actually footage

It’s all very well saying it after the fact from a match-winning position, three points safely in the bank, but what about manning up and talking to the referee in the immediate aftermath? Unlikely, I know, and it would take some guts to do it. But what a man, if you did.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

It was always a very real possibility that would be the case. If we don’t get out of it we can’t be blaming the officials and other clubs pitches and supposed bias against us. Though I suspect some will.

Fairer to say we couldn’t JUST blame those things as they have certainly contributed. But the lion’s share of responsibility for failure to get promoted will be with ourselves.

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CMC wrote:

…Holding a meet and greet in a Car Showroom…

Irrelevant that it was a car showroom. The room was cleared and it was a good-sized space and shape for a really enjoyable event.

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Ferrite wrote:

I thought we were ok last night but a lot of familiar failings were on show too. Dean getting a touchline ban might be the best thing for us in the coming games.

There was some terrific attacking play from time to time, but the tendency to make far too many passes and lose momentum around the box was certainly in evidence too. There were a couple of instances of being in a reasonable enough position to have a crack but dithering and the ball ending up going through four or five passes back to the keeper.

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The only answer is to escape upwards which should be achievable with the players we’ve got.

In many ways I think this division has taken us by surprise.

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… emailing him directly because his email address has been posted online…

That is totally unacceptable.

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