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cassidystash wrote:

Could be tricky, aren’t play offs usually in May?

Late April in NL, aren’t they?

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This toxicity has continued heavily on Twitter (X) through the weekend, with other people joining in. ‘Francis Austin’ has doubled down on his “facts” and “evidence” around various financial / club issues. He’s labelled Michelle “thicko” and called the Board liars (about the state of the club’s finances including debt).

It hasn’t made for pleasant reading. Why not ignore it, then?

Because it has all the hallmarks (language / aggression) of Hilton’s previous nasty rants, so it may very well be him – and therefore you have to ask what the endgame might be? Or is it just some ‘fuelled rant’ to blow off steam?

Additionally, adding further credence, it also turns out Hilton previously posted a long statement (I think on the cult group) under the name ‘Francis Austin’. This was around the time he was leaving SUFC.

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Awaywego wrote:

Bring back Dave you know it makes sense!

What an absolute cult.

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This is a lie. I have sourced this comment on the Facebook group and this Sherbert post is not liked by a single person, never mind Harness of Sharp.
If this account is prepared to lie about something so trivial, what else is he prepared to lie about?

Very interesting.

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i get the feeling something is not quite right…then bosh new revelations about debt and director loans surface on another SM platform.
Another sh8t storm brewing ???

Revelations? Actual evidence?

Or just rumour?

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Cripes.

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It’s worth noting, if this Twitter mind-shit was actually Hilton, that the only other person who has been using the term “Director Loans” is Sherbert. Still being a Useful Idiot and stirring the pot?

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Jason Herbert also banging on about Director Loans on the cult page.

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And then this, in reply to Kieran Maguire talking about new ownership of Matlock Town…

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ironfromafar wrote:

IMO Butterfield should have been kept at all cost .. how we could do with him now!!

“At all cost” would have defeated the object of putting a sensible wage structure in place. When his wife kicked off on socials about insulting offers and other players being on more, etc, she neglected to mention the specifics. His contract had run out and the offer(s) made to him were in line with club policy. Same will happen when ‘the seven’ come to the end of their contracts.

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Awaywego wrote:

Why move anyway, are any of them going to play in front of any bigger crowds or play in a better stadium.

Butterfield was happy with his lot here and he was prepared to take a wage cut just to stay, why shouldn’t others.

After his contract had expired, he wasn’t prepared to fall into line with the new wage structure.

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ironfromafar wrote:

Still loosing 65k a month is head shaking after all the progress in the last year plus .. maybe lowering the bar and off loading some of the over paid Hilton era players could be agood idea even at the cost of longer in the NLN

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It seems there are seven players who exist outside of the new regime’s wage structure, due to contracts. When those expire the players will either move on or sign up on reduced terms. The club can’t do anything in the meantime, other than accept offers if they come in and if they are decent. It looks like there haven’t been any offers so far – but do we ever really know, until someone walks out of the door? These things can sometimes happen fast. With Roberts in particular, I find the apparent lack of offers unfathomable. But that’s where we are, or where we appear to be.

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The war machine is revving up.

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unity iron wrote:

Max helps Unity get their botched licence application over the line and a few hours later questionable age twitter nudie aficionado Stuart Maw draws Max to win the raffle/ football card. They haven’t learned have they?

Nose in the trough.

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Now we’ll never know which is best – Jimmyball or Butlerball… ;-)

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cassidystash wrote:

Are we underestimating ourselves? Our loanees are NL and lower end L1 and, whilst looking decent, are unlikely to be Prem. standard. Should we be looking at Forest, Huddersfield (done OK at both before) Leeds, Sheff’s, Hull and the like for a bit of extra quality.

Isn’t a lot of the loan market down to contacts?

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Northumbiron wrote:

Awaywego wrote:

Shirt sales alone.

5000+ at £40 a pop £200,000 now how much Scunny get from that ?

Assuming we got them off Kelme for nowt?

We owed Kelme money due to Hilton not paying them. As far as I understand it, the company was very patient and generous with Michelle and the board when they took over, but who knows just how much of the ‘new kit’ money actually translated into SUFC money… Perhaps not as much as you would assume.

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Awaywego wrote:

I find it more incredible that after reducing the debt down in such a short space of time that we now need a cash flow injection every month

What’s incredible about it? We’re getting reasonable sized crowds but they’re simply not big enough.

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Siderite wrote:

Shows the dilemma caused by careless profligacy with Dave’s shiny things to placate fans strategy. We’re left picking up the pieces of his (and Swann’s) chaos and trying to progress the squad with players suitable for our level. I will say that we don’t know what’s round the corner. Stockport were down here for years, but they recovered, so it’s not all over.

I don’t think it’s all over, either. But I do think we need to manage our general expectations quite substantially. Whether we win promotion or not it seems we’re in a very difficult ‘holding pattern’ from which there’s little chance of escape. As I said elsewhere, I expect to yo-yo between this Division and the NL for several years. This might be as good as it can get.

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Awaywego wrote:

Totally agree there Ironawe.
But come end of season if we haven’t been promoted and everything was for nothing, fans won’t be acceptable to all the well below par performances. (Last night wasn’t one of them by the way)

A lot of the fans aren’t acceptable now!

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TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

It’s NLN, it is shite. Butler or Guardiola the players are a certain level. We are lucky that the club is paying league level wages to a few players so we occasionally see some good stuff.
Enjoy the beer on the terraces at away games whilst we’re here !

Difficult to see us getting back into the Football League any time soon – if ever – from my point of view. I think we’ll yo-yo between NLN and NL for several years.

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There’ve been some phenomenal moves, passes and plays, and absolutely fantastic football moments, during these three games. That’s been really heartening. But it’s totally unrealistic and even unfair to expect Division 6 players to be able to sustain a performance at that level for all 90 minutes of a match. Those moments are at the top end of their limits.

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That wasn’t a contract extension he was offered, it was an actual written contract he was offered. Those first 7 games he was in charge before he signed his contract was via a verbal agreement.

Makes it all the more annoying because if Michelle had waited a little while longer he would have been so easy and cheap to get rid of.

I’ve only just seen this post. Seeing that behaviour as ‘a win’ is terrible. That’s not how you should think about treating people.

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Rene Artois wrote:

As Brucie used to say – “what do points make – prizes!”

He also used to say “Good game, good game” – and none of them have been.

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We seem to be able to ‘play’ for about 20 minutes in total per match. The rest is really difficult to watch. But credit to Butler and the team – 9 points is more than I thought we’d get from these three home games on the bounce.

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