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Maybe. May equally have had a word with himself. It was and is heartening to hear them getting on splendidly so soon after said episode.
Yeah, I thought that too. Just in general Butler seems to be someone who embraces life and wants to improve himself. So all credit to him if he did sit down and think about his part in his situation and “have a word with himself”. He does look to have turned it around in a very positive way and not many in football seem capable of that introspection and action.
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For me the big turning point was when he began to learn. He had success with his preferred system initially and seemed determined to stick with it when it stopped working. He was totally inflexible at that time and dug his heels in in response to (valid) criticism. At some point, for whatever reason, he realised that there were other ways to play football. We now have a starting line up that better suits the players, together with a willingness and ability to change that as necessary. He’s far from the finished article but if he continues to learn he could get there.
Here’s hoping UTI.Turning point, to me, seemed to be that cringeworthy interview with Ollie Turner of BBC Radio Humberside. Perhaps someone at the club (I’d wager Michelle) had a heart-to-heart with Andy, because his approach markedly changed and he seemed to “grow up a bit” for want of a much better way of putting it. I’m talking about his previous inflexibility but also his interaction with those (Ollie Turner and by extension all the fans) who were questioning him or giving him a hard time.
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Exactly why we should stick with him and back him through rough spells.
Yep, the time for reevaluation is May. Butler made many mistakes, the results were poor and performances not optimal for a while. However, some were all too ready to dismiss the idea that a manager can learn or adapt, with little consideration for the pitfalls of becoming sack happy. Any attempts to say we should stick by Butler with the hope that he can learn and turn things round were made out to be defending the crud that was on display over a period of poor form. I have no idea if Butler will succeed, and the loss of Whitehall is a concern if it isn’t short term, but the detractors didn’t really have it fully clued in with their assessments either, even if some thought they did. We are in a promotion battle, the promises of anything but midtable mediocrity being dreamland were nonsense, as were the claims that we would definitely drop like a stone from some.
Sure, some of those criticising raised valid points and were less certain. Many have now said they have changed opinion again. However, maybe the turnaround shows that it’s maybe best not to form solid opinions of how Butler can’t succeed on short term form. Criticism is expected during such times, but it should be constructive, and it’s important to remember the level we’re at and that these players will make errors.
Everyone’s wounded. Everyone’s got PTSD. From Swann and Hilton. From dropping out of the league and then down to this division. Plus, of course, from the club almost going… So it’s no wonder emotions get hot and high, stress explodes and reason gets burned up in a toxic mix.
The order of the day for the remainder of the season is steady away and calm heads. We should accept the fact we’ve got an inexperienced manager who has been doing well for the last 15 or so games with Division 6 players (who have managed to string results together despite often lacklustre and highly unattractive performances).
That’s not to say “keep your powder dry”. If there’s criticism needed, give it – but constructively. It’s coming up to crunch time, and I don’t know about you but when the pressure’s really on, I already know what’s at stake and I don’t need someone screaming at me that me I’m f*cking sh*t.
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Beestin & Roberts up front and Fadera starting on the right?
This.
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Mainly bar takings in the beginning obviously a small entrance fee £10 ish and like I said start small and build up. Club can Ill afford to take many risks of which a stadium gig most of us to think is a no go.
12p profit a pint? – is it worth the effort?
Your casual pop in / out, 2 pints in an hour drinker will make you 24p
An 8 pint session drinker will tie a table up for say 4 hours and you’ll nearly make a full quid profit.
If someone nicks a couple of bog rolls then that wipes out that profit and leaves you in the excrement.
Stealing ornaments, accidental & deliberate damage / vandalism to seating, furnishings, fixtures etc and then either the ambience of the venue or your bank account is lowered.
To be fair to AWG, at least he came up with an idea. In principle it wasn’t a bad one, sounded like a potentially attractive event. But as you point out, money making opportunity might be quite low – unless the club charged a good-sized fee for the use of their land etc etc etc?
Nicolson out on a perminant deal is being mooted on SM and AB very coy about it in the interview
Started well but went right off the boil. We didn’t make that much of his powerful long throw, and his general passing became weirdly dreadful. Limited opportunities in the last couple of months with seemingly zero impact on the team as a whole… so it makes sense to thank him for his service and see him on his way?
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Kouogun didn’t really cover himself in glory, either.
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Like Torps was saying, no point in really high balls to Beck that he’s struggling to get a head on, particularly if no ones really around him to latch on to flick ons. That’s how looked to me too. Curzon are a pain with that time wasting but don’t blame them. Roberts should have had a free kick edge of the area second half. Just shoved heavily off the ball.
Agree with this. We’re not getting the best out of Beck at all. He seems to me to be one of those target men who should have a nippy little bugger playing six feet away from him snapping up the bits Beck can feed. We should also be set up to build towards whipping crosses in when he’s up front and in the box, rather than continuing to fanny about.
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“Outside the box thinking”
Gated Bike nights or weekends both bars open, restaurant, camping on training pitch couple of Rock tribute bands, trade stands, food outlets, bike jumble. All without using the stadium at all.
Same with the Scooter’s sub Mod bands instead
Caravan club weekend (and before you laugh they had one at Brumby hall which was well attended).
Start small and build up.Not disagreeing, just wondering how you think the club would make serious money from this?
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Deserved to win that. Played some good football. Just didn’t quite fall right with Curzon defending well and deep. Good performance nonetheless.
1-1 was a fair reflection of the game. The lateness of the equaliser could make it seem like we snatched something we perhaps didn’t deserve, but that’s not really the case.
More than a draw? I don’t think so. Good chances went begging at both ends, so…
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All good points. So you should now see the futility of the trust buying shares other than their giving money to the club.
No.
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In the recent interview on Iron Hour, Ian Sharp admitted they have made mistakes and will probably make more. I really hope this idea for a 3 day music festival at which they hope to attract a whopping 10k people a day, isn’t one of them. Can’t see that any of the board have experience of organising music events like this and it might explain the pie in the sky target. I hope they give their heads a wobble and think it through properly, and don’t rope in someone who promises the earth but ends up burning them, and ultimately the club
It would be a massive financial risk for the club to undertake, as well as a logistical nightmare. They definitely do not have the expertise required. Just the talk of ‘tribute bands and local acts’ tells you that.
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I haven’t got time to get through the whole of Renée’s novel but one thing it highlights is that Swann did absolutely nothing to grow crowds, even with all the money spent on players. A pretty damning indictment.
It’s worth reading as he raises some sensible points worth thinking about.
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