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    If, let’s say, there was a scenario where Scunthorpe ended up facing Spennymoor in the final of the Play Offs then surely you’d recall Shrimpton and put him straight in the side. Just for the absolute Whitehallery of it.

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    in reply to: Cancel that 3 dayer #301458
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    The second ‘wave’ of acts were due to be announced last night. Second time Zanetti has missed his own deadline.

    After his Chester half-time I’d guess it’s rare that he ever misses a line.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301454
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    Highly amusing that he uses the word “We” when he talks about the club, he’s stadium banned and always will be.

    Not so amusing that he continues his pattern of pro-Dave shit-stirring.

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301447
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    Bad debt could also be a purchase of something that can never be repaid.

    Or missing cash.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301435
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    Ask the person who shares their surname with a closed homewares store…

    Dave Habitat?

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301428
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    Ha ha! Only a day later than anticipated. But if the day fits…

    Strangely reminiscent of a previous tirade against Kieran, around the middle of 2023. ‘I used to like you mate, used to respect you, now you’re just like the rest of them. I smoke out vermin me…’ blah blah blah, BS, BS, BS…ad infinitum.

    Is ‘out vermin’ a type of crack?

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301427
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    What was the official reason for only being able to pay for season tickets with cash again??

    BOSH ??

    250k equates to 700-800 season tickets at a very very rough guess

    Joined-up thinking.

    in reply to: Cancel that 3 dayer #301423
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    I hope, for the Club’s sake, it comes off. But it’s already got the stink of dead animal about it.

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    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301421
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    … should it be be explained as commented bt BLT a couple of posts earlier????

    Do you mean you want the Club to explicitly say it?

    Perhaps there was an agreement not to pursue or reveal that info, in exchange for buying the Club for no fee.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301418
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    Best off ignored.

    Best off imprisoned?

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301411
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    No.
    Rather see Hiltons extravagant spending on the team. (Would seem not bad in the end anyway seeing we only lost £250,000)
    Now what is extravagant is employing a CEO, a Catering manager, stadium manager all tuther office staff, and a restaurant, all very well and good for a team in the EFL but national league north I don’t think so.
    All beyond our control either direction.

    I don’t think “we only have £250,000 of irretrievable debt to someone who never had any intention of paying it back” truly washes.

    Like a turkey paying homage to the slaughterman

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301408
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    Does the club 1899 money come into this ? SUFC are effectively losing season ticket money and profit on club shop items to repay those who bought into that (was going to phrase that very differently but don’t want to cause work for the moderators).

    Did you rephrase because you’d originally had a go at those who naively bought into the scheme, or at the person who cynically implemented it? Know your enemy.

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301406
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    It’s great in theory the model we are working towards, but I suspect we will hit the ceiling pretty quickly.

    As I’ve said elsewhere in the past, as supporters we almost certainly have to face the fact that we’re operating at (or about at) the right level for a club of our size and means. Even then it’s a continuing financial struggle, though much of our issue is legacy debt and black holes in the accounts.

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301404
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    Perhaps a better way to say it would be “cash monies due to the Club, and which the Club could reasonably have expected to receive, but did not”…

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301402
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    Bad debt on a balance sheet would almost certainly be relating to money we are owed that we now no longer think is retrievable. So, who owes us £250k?

    Just the use of the words “money we are owed” infers that there was likely to have been some sort of formal loan or repayment agreement. To further walk on eggshells around the elephant in the room, I very strongly suspect that not to be the case.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301398
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    9 full time staff on the non playing side at the club, the vast majority of them doing more than one task, all of them work incredibly hard and it’s unacceptable that some on here choose to question their commitment or the standard of their work.
    Michelle Harness who has been working morning till night up to 7 days a week for over a year to ensure there’s a club for the town to support ably backed by those 9 staff, I’m baffled as to why some on here choose to question it.

    Lack of awareness of the nitty gritty (what it takes day by day, role by role, task by task) to keep the Club rolling?

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301395
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    SUFC is over staffed in some areas mentioned bearing in mind we are in the NLN ..

    We don’t know the actual duties and workload, do we – so how can you say that with certainty? Wasn’t it previously mentioned that James Moody was, effectively, doing the jobs of two or three people during the Hilton era? That’s not sustainable in itself – nothing would be given the time it demands or be done with the expertise it requires.

    Obviously cant say it for absolute certainty sure .. more so its IMO its over staffed in some areas for a NL club.

    Yes Off loaded LT and running with a small squad (well balanced with cover so kudos there) but always seems to be money for non playing staff inc the new CEO who as yet has been pretty nondescript.

    I’m not arguing the merits or otherwise of Roberts himself – but there was a point at which Michelle made it clear she could not continue working the hours she was working, nor on the sheer volume of tasks, micro-tasks, decisions, considerations and outreach ‘on her desk’.

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301392
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    Size of operation is a factor. The club is averaging attendances over 4,000, majority home fans, which is a lot more than in the later EFL days. A number of staff part time too.

    … plus some volunteering.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301389
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    SUFC is over staffed in some areas mentioned bearing in mind we are in the NLN ..

    We don’t know the actual duties and workload, do we – so how can you say that with certainty? Wasn’t it previously mentioned that James Moody was, effectively, doing the jobs of two or three people during the Hilton era? That’s not sustainable in itself – nothing would be given the time it demands or be done with the expertise it requires.

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301383
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    Sustainability isn’t a reality in football.

    You may be right – but if a Club is thinking and working in that direction that’s got to be much better than if it’s operating carelessly or owners are being wilfully extravagant.

    in reply to: Cancel that 3 dayer #301379
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    No licence no event – https://x.com/iainsander18766/status/1906779259508543850?s=46

    Zanetti is not reflecting well on our Club is he? First the Chester half-time embarrassment and now this.

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301355
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    Kieran Maguire on Humberside
    Club written off 250k from one person that owed the club money. Half the yearly losses.

    … and a carefully worded half of the story.

    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301339
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    Bad debt is a fairly vague term

    Isn’t ‘bad debt’ also sometimes used as the accounting term for inexplicably absent money?

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    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301338
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    Burner accounts have fired up…

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    in reply to: Bad debt 250K – see it now? #301337
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    Bad debt is a fairly vague term

    Trying to make it clear without saying it explicitly, imho

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    Maybe when the club is losing £65k a month the club shouldn’t be spending money on Easter eggs to hand out before Saturdays game.

    Perhaps these eggs were donated? Maybe that’s a small way that a local newsagent (or whoever) decided to contribute to the Club this week.

    in reply to: Club accounts. #301290
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    … There was understandable vitriol near the end of his tenure after he stopped paying wages and tried to move us to Gainsborough. Everything before that was justified criticisms and concerns.

    Completely agree with this.

    in reply to: £20 to listen to paint drying #301283
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    There were people at the ground on Saturday handing out flyers for other ‘talk nights’ coming up down at Glanford Park. I think ‘Anfield Legends’ was one, and Andy Cole was the other. Like the motorbike nights, these things are not to everyone’s tastes – but why should they be? Why would every event put on have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? Why, if it’s not to your particular taste, slag it off? As long as the Club makes money on these things then that’s fair enough.

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    in reply to: Club accounts. #301281
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    Do we think the accounts will actually surface today? If there’s anything contentious in there, and bearing in mind last week’s drama, won’t the tactic be to wait until after season’s end? There’ll be a small financial hit for late filing – £375 for between a month and three months late, etc…

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