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I’d look to move Hallam or McAtee on in January, with kev we have 3 no 10’s at the club. Hard choice to make though, Hallam I think has the most to offer but he’s injury prone.
If and buts. If Loft hadn’t been so greedy and had squared it to a completely unmarked McAtee….
9 times out of 10 that shot hits inside of the post and goes in. I’d rather Loft took responsibility rather and not show the confidence to take the shot on.
Cox the other day said he trained really well…showing hunger and is fighting for a 1st team spot here so it looks like he’s staying for the time being.
Ideal to bring on now the use of 5 subs is coming into play.
It’s not like we’re short of strikers anyway.
Jarvis Injured. We have Turan as our primary back up, who so far has looked dreadful. Not so sure about this one. I hope this doesn’t bite us on the backside.
I’d have no qualms about the club getting rid in January but leaves us a bit short up top right now.
I think Cox got it right last night, we sat back and they couldn’t break us down. I have a feeling if we went all out attack we would have been picked off.
Ideally we all want to see attacking football but I feel last night was one of those games we simply needed to dig in, they’re more than a decent side at this level. Top 6 side after 10 games so they were no mugs.
Also, we have a number of players who aren’t even fully match fit…they’ll get better with more games.
Financially it makes sense but he would have been handy to have with the use of 5 subs coming in to play. Jarvis is injured so we’re left with Turan as the only viable striker left.
I suppose we would stick Green up there but it’s hardly ideal.
Loft had a really good game. People are saying he should have passed but 9 out of 10 times, that shot hits the inside of the post and deflects in, he was just unlucky.
I’d rather he taken the shot, least it shows he had confidence in his own ability instead of passing the buck.
Gillead was poor but he’s been good all season. I thought young Rowe did well, bit nervy when he picked up the yellow but considering Port Vale was targeting him most of the night, thought he showed promise.
People need not forget that players in this team at present aren’t even really match fit yet.
I just hope Big Kev is ok after going off.
Mcgahey made a big difference as well.
Howard: 6.0
Rowe: 6.5
McGahey: 9
Onariase: 8
Brown: 7
Gillead: 5
Spence: 7
Beestin: 6.0
Eisa: 8
Loft: 7.5
KVV: 7
Gillead out wide for me. Beestin and Spence are more than solid in there and allow the forward players to do their thing.
Let’s not forget, if Loft wasn’t so unlucky last night and he scored we would have won 2-0 away from home against a top 6 side.
Why should we even look to change right now?
Apart from a question mark over Clarke, it’s as it was against Oldham. 4/4/2, you never know…Loft might ever turn in a dominant, targetman masterclass.
Is that pushing it too far ?
Loft does look a bit ungainly at times I must admit. Pity he didn’t have Torpey’s close control ! Old Torps wasn’t exactly a rolls royce type player but he has a really good touch.
I hope Loft develops that down the line. If he continues to make a nuisance of himself and do the donkey work to make space for Van Veen and Gillead and Eisa cutting in from the wing then I’m at least satisfied with him in the team but he definitely needs to work on his technique a bit.
All thought 4/4/2 was our best formation, we’ve never really played any good using other formations. Keeping it simple works best for us, also we have 2 of the best wingers in this division when both are fit, which certainly helps.
EandMee needs to calm down. Taylor is out for the next 2 weeks so we’re really, really stretched in CM now. Also with Vincent out still, only leaves us with Hornshaw and Pugh as back up’s.
I’ll be a lot more at ease when Taylor is due back, leaves he’ll give us another viable option in there.
I’m over the moon with the win but let’s go overboard, it’s only 1 win.
Beestin looks a class above going by the last few matches. You can clearly see how he got 50 games under his belt for donny at league one level.
Beestin needs a contract extension pretty sharpish, he’s runs out end of this season I think.
Well done to everybody. Clarke I don’t think will be available on Tuesday though, you would have thought he’ll need resting.
Beestin being overlooked for Vincent was criminal…not only does the dirty side but get’s forward from time to time and good range of passing..he looks to be a good all rounder.
Bedeau was really good today as well..even Loft did well at times.
If we can continue this upward curve to see us through to January and sign 3 experienced players just to help bolster the squad, we should be ok.
I checked the other day about Beestin and he’s more experienced than I realised, like you say BigToe, he’s played a fair few games at lg 1 level and to be honest I think he’s better than Spence and much better than Vincent ever was.
I still think him and Taylor are our best two CM’s at present. If we go 4/4/2 with two strikers, we could play Beestin alongside Spence and Beestin can be the one who get’s forward a bit and allow Spence to sit in.
I don’t want anymore stupid diamond formations, they don’t work. In times like these we need to simplify as much as we can.
Olomola and Kev upfront if both are fit enough and bring them both off 2nd half…stick Loft and Hallam when both are knackered.
At least with Kvv and Olomola you like to think we’d at least carry a goal threat.
The only way for Swann to really fix this is to pay off Turan, Loft and Mooney out of his own pocket and stick Hippolyte on a free transfer.
Jarvis I’d stick out on loan somewhere. Vincent and Cordner need their loans ending, whether Swann will have to pay some severance pay to send them back I’m not sure but he really needs to find the money to pay most of them up and have them released, he signed the crap and cluttered up the squad so he should pay to move them on.
While he’s at it he wants to be paying Clarke up as well and move him on. Only problem is, who’s at the club now who will have any clue about play recruitment ?
Swann’s masterplan included sacking off the scouting team. If I was him personally I’d stream line the coaching staff “who we have many of” pay a few off and get a main and an assistant scout in.
That definitely needs reversing pronto…
I thought that Razor, I wonder if this is done if we go down. This way with Swann writing off his loans to the club, financially he’s unattached so he can run off into the sunset.
This seems a bit suspect as it’s a distinct possibility we may end up being relegated.
No mention of a club scout being signed to allow an actual football man identify the players we need.
If he’s still going to poke his nose in and have this daft committee, whoever is alongside him, then it doesn’t matter what he says. The root cause will still be eating away at the club.
Gillead Greene McAtee Spence
McAtee as a CM will be a liability..either play him in the no 10 role or not at all.
I’d go
Howard
Butroid Onaraise Bedeau Rowe
Gillead Beestin Taylor Green
Kvv OlomolaWhen either of the strikers are cream crackered bring Hallam/McAtee on and stick either of them behind Jarvis or Loft.
I do have a feeling however that Cox will bottle it and stick 1 upfront and play Hallam or McAtee in behind.
Oldham are poor themselves so personally I’d go with Olomola and Kev, should give them plenty of problems.
What’s happened to McGahey…he’s been fit a while now hasn’t he ?
Hardly ideal playing any player who isn’t match fit but a half fit McGahey is still better than a fully fit Bedeau.
On the other hand i thought Matt Dean was pathetic
Anybody in the right mind wouldn’t have disagreed with what Rob said. Matt Dean making pathetic excuses for Swann made me laugh.
I understand he works for Humberside who also interviews Swann but he really need to find a backbone. I wasn’t expecting him to rip into Swann but those excuses were terrible.
That’s not adding balance to the argument, that’s just lacking courage on his part.
WG makes good points even if his ‘100%’ does seem a tad OTT
Ok, factoring in covid and the injuries to Van Veen and McGahey….I’ll settle for 80% at fault, either way, he’s the real reason why this club is the way it is.
Chairmen should deal with financial side of things and leave the football side of things to football people.
To be brutally honest, this is 100% Swann’s fault. I struggle to comprehend how he can’t see it.
To say Covid isn’t exactly helpful is a huge understatement but it wasn’t covid who sacked the scouting team and decided to sign a rag tag squad of kids and then to further take the piss… appointed a perma crock as captain.
Swann’s in denial…it’s him deciding to play real life football manager with the club that’s the big reason for our club being on the way crumbling away.
Oh, then he decides to appoint a 1st time manager who’s then supposed to get a tune out of an already chosen squad of players, with 80% of the signed players not even fit for purpose.
I wonder this why Wilcox turned down the job when he knew the direction Swann wanted to take ?
Hurst kicked off when he felt the goal posts were moved…he more than likely discovered this crazy route Swann wanted to take, kicked off and then was sacked.
To have a chairman who picks the direction to go down with recruitment is one thing but to then have him go out, sign the players and pre appoint a perma crock captain is another thing entirely.
It’s absolute madness.
Swann’s legendary meddling again is well and truly rearing it’s ugly head.
Somebody needs to have some balls and come out and say this to him because it’s needed, he really needs to wake up and get in the real world.
Never heard anybody so deluded.
I can’t remember that message even being worded like this, did he alter the message because I can’t recall it saying that.
If not, I fear I may have lost my mind.
Could I get a job working alongside the transfer committee down at GP, I’d probably fit in !
Anybody who tells the simple, plain truth these days need commending. Newey at times rambles a little bit from time to time but least he’s honest.
The curse of the transfer committee I’m afraid…we’ve been down this road before. Clueless people choosing to sign players when they had no idea what we actually needed.
Going by what has been suggested. I can’t see it being too far away.
Seriously though, what did Swann expect ?.
Swann and the other people who make up the terrible transfer committee, managed to assemble a the most shoddy squad pf playersin a hell of a long time, pre appoints a captain who we all know is a perma crock and then signs an inexperienced manager to somehow turn a team full of kids and non league misfits to something even close to resembling a football side.
The mind boggles. Swann has really pushed the boat at this time. This is why people who know nothing about football shouldn’t involve themselves in signing players. Now we have a ridiculously poor, extremely large squad when funds were already been stretched with no fans through the doors.
If we manage to somehow get ourselves out of this mess, we’ll have to be lucky to say the least.
This is why chairman should sign off on players and not try their hand at anything else. This is what happens.
How many times has Swann been questioned over this transfer committee….he clearly can’t help himself.
Roaming bull, you must not remember Tomi Ameobo, Andy Parton or Matt Bailey we had on loan….saying that though Turan isn’t very good. I thought he looked like he had something to offer but today clearly showed he’s rubbish.
I think we was at Weston Super Mare before he came here and hardly tore up any trees there.
Jarvis is good until he get’s to finishing chances. Mooney wasn’t deemed good enough from day one. Loft is a complete and utter donkey, which leaves Olomola and Big Kev as are best two strikers.
What a mess !
It will be a stretched team we put out which ever way you look at it. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we didn’t get battered.
We limped over the line, it was the most underwhelming promotion of all time and carried no momentum over… it was that bad.
Not quite sure what that has to do with the transfer committee making an absolute pigs ear of the recruitment yet again though.
Has Olomola disappeared off the face of the earth or is he one of thise who’s self isolating ?
And non more than you WG you can’t even except facts,so doubt if you have any common sense.
Except what facts ?. You mean the stupid transfer committee yet again putting their foot in it, signing a stupidly unbalanced, inexperienced squad ?
It’s the sheer stupidity by those at the top which means me now have to rabble around in the free transfer bin because who ever it was who signed the players did an absolutely terrible job of it.
When I mean terrible, I mean TERRIBLE.
Don’t come at me with rubbish like that, you should aim that towards Swannster.
I do question the mental health of some people on this forum, who in my opinion lack any kind of commonsense.
Beestin has played one game, albeit a very good one. Taylor’s best performance was alongside Beestin, that was the best game he’s had.
Very early on to be saying we don’t need another CM which I find absolutely ridiculous. Other than those two, who are both unknown quantities, who is there to step in if either of those two either get found out or become injured ?
Vincent’s out until January time. Spence is a defensive midfielder and then we have Hornshaw, who again is a defensive midfielder, and another unknown quantity…who’s been doing a terrible job at RB. Which is no real fault of his own.
How can we not need another CM ?. I’m bemused at the people who say we don’t need one. Throw into the mix we have Eisa who’s picked up a bad injury, which means we have Hippolyte who’s been shocking since he’s got here and Dales who’s clearly not rated.
A few would even say we need a striker as well in all fairness. Jarvis seemingly would struggle to finish his dinner. Loft’s a donkey. Turan is another unknown quantity. Olomola still isn’t deemed fit enough and McAtee has been substandard so far. Big Kevs won’t be fit enough till next month.
We definitely need a players in. Before people keep saying “o, well we have so many players on the books” you’re right we do. The squads so unbalanced and we’re still in dire need of experience which is the fault of one man and one man only.
I keep saying this, stemming back a few season…until Swann stops fecking about signing players when he has no clue what and who we need, this will keep happening.
Put it this way, Swann better move himself and a get a few players because if he doesn’t he’d have let down Cox. Swann was the one who said we were looking to get a few more in.
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