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Bob Steeles was bang on “he’s wanting to do questionnaires to figure out why fans aren’t attending but he’s seemingly in denial as he’s simply not seeing he’s the problem as the trust has gone. fans just don’t trust him anymore and it’s very hard and in many cases impossible to win back”
That just about summed it up. Steeles was only saying what we all are thinking .
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They’ve been saying sorry every week after a loss and that they’ll put it right in training. I don’t want to hear it anymore.
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I liked Hurst as well, Eisa, mcAtee and Gillead must have as well because he was getting a lot out of all 3 them.
As left toe said above, Swann said in his statement that with energy and determination we’ll turn it around.
Apparently having a manager who clearly can’t man manage players and who’s a dreadful tactician has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Absolute disgrace, he’s had near enough 2 fresh squads of players and has/had no real idea what to do with either. Only occasional brilliance and the 4 game run got us over the line last season and that was fluky to say the least.
Absolute piss take.
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He’s been hiding a while now
I genuinely thought he must have either emigrated or sadly passed away.
I predict he’s been travelling the world abusing people but covid travel restrictions forced him back !
Read the definition of rumour WG.
I’m fully aware what a rumour is, thank you. I never said it was fact, did I ?
Does make you wonder though.
Robins is the perfect example. It had been rumoured that a Swannster had been sticking his nose in.
Bit strange how he’s gone to Coventry, worked absolute wonders and now sit top end of championship.
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I like Hurst when he was here, we we’re a bit dodgy at the back but we’re starting to look great going forward as he was getting a real song out of Gillead, Eisa and Mcatee.
Old Swannster moved the transfer policy goalposts, Hurst kicked off and was pretty much forced out.
Swann did back track though shortly after signing, Brown and Howard for experience on free transfers.
What an absolute idiot this man is !
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Awaywego, once thing about fansy is he doesn’t exactly hide from confrontation. I remember the old days from the last forum.
I don’t think he’s one for hiding.
The mod is back phoney bastard.
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I am glad to be a phoney bastard, when compared to you a proper cunt, hiding on the Internet abusing people who don’t know who you are.Brightening the place up already. Jesus Christ, we’re you been hiding ?
The current plight we’re in we need your sharp tongue and undeniable charm to cause mayhem and mischief to counter balance Swannsters bullshit.
The floor is yours…….
Keith Hill and Ronnie Moore are without jobs and Keith Hill in particular is well know for getting the best out of solid if unspectacular players. Hill’s teams don’t play silky football but least they’re hard to beat.
That’s what we need at the minute, as currently we’re boring and as soft as shite to play against.
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Cause he was duped. Look at the promises that’s been promised from Swann and what’s been delivered.
Do you really think Swann would have been upfront to Wharton and told him that he would spend money we couldn’t afford to spend, get the club in huge debt to try and wing a promotion ?
No of cause he wouldn’t have…therefore in a sense we’ve all been duped. What was promised and what was delivered have been very different.
Spending 110% of turnover while trying to run the club on a championship type budget with a smallish league 2 budget while running up 12 million in debt is hardly a sound business model.
Nobody was promised that, were they ?
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We weren’t in the best spot at the end under Wharton but at least the link was there between the fans and we had local ties in the boardroom. The structure was already in place, all Swann had to do was come here with a sound business model and pump sensible money into the club to help us along with a long term plan in mind.
What did he do ?. Swann came here, proceeded to plant his Swann Dynasty flag pole in the boardroom and kicked everybody out while tearing the structure down Wharton had spent so much time putting in place.
All Swann did was come here and treat the club in a reckless and dangerous way…he tried to run it as a championship club on a league two budget and tried to wing a promotion, ever since he realised he wouldn’t work that way he’s slowly asset stripped the club of all capable players and since took the ground and the land from the community.
Not going to help us now but Swann in my opinion should be blacklisted from ever getting involved with any sports team, football or otherwise.
I’m just really disappointed that Wharton was duped like the rest of us were.
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One squad to not have listen to you is bad enough but this is a near new squad of players and it’s happened again.
No structure, No patterns of play. Funnily enough we looked like we started to turn a corner when we had Hippolyte and Pugh in CM but he ripped all that up and we’ve gone backwards.
Cox signed Kenyon and Bunn and they’re both crocks which doesn’t help. Cox said post match that the team was naive but when it was pointed out to him that Davis and Taft we’re experienced at the back and we have other experienced members in the squad he was somewhat caught on the hop.
I would say comfortably that Cox is the worst manager we’ve had by quite a distance. I understand it’s far from easy for him to work under these conditions but to have 2 different squads of players not listen to you is extracting the urine.
Cox’s man management skills must be absolutely shocking in all fairness.
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we had decent team for most of Wharton’s years but sense of community?
What I was trying to say was that even though it was rough towards the end of Wharton’s tenure. The club even though struggling still had that connection for the most part with the fans.
This club has always been fairly tight knit with the community…we’ll that’s what it felt like anyway, as there was always that familiarity and bond there.
Not there now though, is it ?
Look, I said bad words towards Wharton and I deeply regret it. One of my biggest regrets as a fan of this club because now what have we got ?
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Least the feeling towards the club would change if he wasn’t here anymore. You never know, we may even get the community feel back again.
Swann has absolutely destroyed this club. intentionally or not…he’s absolutely ruined us.
We weren’t in the best spot at the end under Wharton but at least the link was there between the fans and we had local ties in the boardroom. The structure was already in place, all Swann had to do was come here with a sound business model and pump sensible money into the club to help us along with a long term plan in mind.
What did he do ?. Swann came here, proceeded to plant his Swann Dynasty flag pole in the boardroom and kicked everybody out while tearing the structure down Wharton had spent so much time putting in place.
All Swann did was come here and treat the club in a reckless and dangerous way…he tried to run it as a championship club on a league two budget and tried to wing a promotion, ever since he realised he wouldn’t work that way he’s slowly asset stripped the club of all capable players and since took the ground and the land from the community.
Not going to help us now but Swann in my opinion should be blacklisted from ever getting involved with any sports team, football or otherwise.
Way more dangerous than fenty was at Grimsby. Grimsby fans hated him but even they recognize that Swann is the worse of the two by a country mile.
Really sad Wharton ever handed the club over to such a person. I don’t blame Wharton though, no doubt he was duped like the rest of us.
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Swann is the main one to blame but Cox is a close second. I get the budget is low but Morecambe had a low budget last season and were promoted so it can be done.
This is Cox’s squad of players he stated had determination and character and supposedly signed “winners”.
Nobody can hide from the fact that this is the 2nd squad of players he’s managed now that’s he’s not been able to organize or get them to listen to him.
This can’t be 2 groups of players fault. Look, Cox I feel sorry for as asking a rookie manager to turn this club around was always too much to ask but he’s absolutely clueless and won’t make it as a football manager, he’s not cut out for it.
The warning signs were there even from the 1st games of the season when Cox commented that at times they were doing what they wanted like last season.
They clearly don’t listen to him and he’s unable to put any kind of structure into, not only this team but the last one too.
Miles out of his depth. In an ideal world Swann would give the clubs assets back and stick the club up for sale shortly after the sacking of Cox but we all know that won’t happen so best we can hope for is Cox to be sacked and for us to sign an experienced manager who may be able to get some organization into the team.
Cox should have been sacked long before now but if he’s still in a job on Monday morning then we really need to protest “peacefully” and really speak up because if it wasn’t serious already, it’s really hit home now.
Even at this early stage, the fat lady is warming her vocal chords.
That was shameful today, really was.
I look forward to seeing the squad announced.
I look forward to seeing the formation played.
I do not look forward to the post match interview !It will be 4/4/2 as Cox said the other day that it was promising with the chances we created. I think Swann must have gotten into his ear because let’s face it, he should have been playing 4/4/2 much earlier anyway.
Cox and his tedious 5 at the back nonsense. No doubt we’ll create chances playing a 4/4/2 with actual wingers and Loft with Scrimshaw/Hallam…real question is if we can actually defend properly.
Manny I rate even though he’s prone to lapses in concentration and tends to be a bit rash at times but Taft since he’s signed on a perm has been pretty awful and I don’t really rate Davis either to be honest.
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October 8, 2021 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Harrogate away, time to show our fury as supporters? #215067WG Wotton and Godden were here 6 and 5 years, Godden went out on loan 8 times Wotton 6, they in there time here were just not good enough and you’ve got to admit we did give them plenty of time, glad there doing well now and good luck to them.
Wootton was played out on the wing for the most part or as a loan striker with no support. Godden was sent out on loan but that was when he was was a kid mostly, I’m talking about when he was moving into his later years with us, he should have been reassured and tied down to a contract.
You can give excuses all you like but they both should have been signed up to deals and sent out on loan.
Godden you could tell from a youngster was a natural finisher, hence why he scored so many goals. Everybody with eyesight knew that.
Goode I always felt had something, he was let go for peanuts and Northampton profited. The system down at GP needs to change. We can’t keep playing the younger players either in a role which doesn’t suit them or play them while they’re getting no support, losing patience and moving them on.
If we keep going down that road we’ll keep missing out.
October 7, 2021 at 10:02 pm in reply to: Harrogate away, time to show our fury as supporters? #215019Awaywego, we have passed on many players who have done well elsewhere. The most comical one is Goode. Swann has brought countless experimental players “projects” to improve to move on for big money and the only one who went for 6 figures was Goode after we sold him for pittance to Northampton lol
This club has got serious issues when it comes to developing talent in recent years. Look at Wilson even now…started pre season looking like a really talented player, dare I say an exciting one who Cox was talking up and yet he’s been virtually left out in the cold.
Even going back as far as Godden and Wootton. Those two should have been told they had a future long term, signed to long contracts and sent out on loan to gain experience.
We seem to dip them in and out in shite teams we field and they don’t settle/don’t perform we don’t make them feel wanted and they move on.
Happens all too often for my liking. I said we should have offered those two contracts and sent them out on loan very early on. Godden matured into a top striker and Wootton will be moving much higher up shortly, he was being scouted last season by teams much higher up.
It’s all a fecking mess here, it’s run like a circus.
He was already in place though, via the dreaded transfer committee. I may be wrong but that’s how I remember it.
The resident club spin doctor may not appreciate it but I thought that was a decent effort. If things keep getting worse though there will be a lot more harsher words though I feel, not very nice one’s !
Hippolyte I thought was fairly good the other night and Green wasn’t bad either but with those two it’s been consistency.
Green has all the pace in the world but doesn’t believe in himself to really use it and Hippolyte for the most part has been listless.
No doubt in my mind that when Hackney goes back we need a LW and if we can manage it, a proper DCM . Kenyon’s been injured for the most part and even when he was playing in those games he played in he looked like he was wading in treacle.
Swann needs to pay Turan off. I can’t see him being on much and his contract will be running out end of the season, he needs binning ASAP.
It was Swannster who signed him after all.
My understanding of Swann getting rid of Hurst was that he believe we were going with youngsters which were under pinned by some experience, then Swann moved the goal posts and decided to just sign kids and Hurst didn’t agree with that plan, spoke up and was put in a position where he couldn’t stay anymore.
Swann went ahead with the braindead all youth policy then quickly backtracked by signing experience soon after it was apparent the so called youth plan was a load of shite and we lacked leadership.
This is why chairman should sign off on things in the boardroom and leave the footballing side of things to footballing people.
If Swann didn’t meddle Hurst would maybe have been here now and we would have been a lot better for it. As I said, Swann backtracked anyway when we signed experience soon after.
Another balls up to go with the other pile of crap he’s caused.
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Swan dropped a bollock of biblical proportions when he forced Hurst out.
Swann has dropped many clangers, that just been 1 of dozens. Hurst got a lot out of Eisa, Gillead and Mcatee but because he dares speak up to Swann about moving the goalposts on the transfer dealings, he got rid.
We all know he’s a complete and utter penis. Honestly, you’re not saying anything that we don’t already know.
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let’s try Davis in that role
Let’s not, he looks slow and ponderous even at CB. I wouldn’t want him playing in DCM where he’s going to need a cover a lot of ground.
I hope you was extracting the urine when you said that. 4/4/2 and no more 5 at the back crap, it doesn’t work.
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What a surprise, 4/4/2 and we actually showed something going forward. Hallam played well, Loft looked good… Green and Hippolyte even looked fairly decent.
I thought Wood was fairly good as well, good cross for the goal.
Sloppy start though, lax at the back again. Davis looks a slow and ponderous.
Least we played with width and a bit of invention which is at least a step forward.
If this isn’t a wake up call for Cox to stick with 4/4/2 then he needs to leave on his accord.
Use this as a tester and play more attacking with a 4/4/2 with proper players out wide and actually play with width.
Wilson on the left and Bunn on the right. Beestin and Pugh. Flat back 4 with Loft and Scrimshaw upfront.
I’d ditch Taft as well and go with Davis and Manny as he’s been shite since he’s been signed permanently.
For once play with positivity and some actual attacking intent. If we get dicked by 3 or 4, least we’ll show something going forward for once.
E mails going out inviting shareholders to meetings with the chairman.
Why is he suddenly interested?Well, same reason he’s now not saying “it’s our club” meaning the Swanns property and is now saying “it’s your club” no doubt because the money has dried up.
Swannster want’s our money doesn’t he now !
Same as inviting shareholders for meetings. The supporters club in particular asked for a space on the board to have say and all he used to say was ” you put the money I’ve put into the club, you can have a say”
Fans also asked for the possibility of buying shares and he scoffed at the idea.
As I said above, now the money has dried up he’ll be looking at doing a u-turn no.
Too little, too late pal.
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I think when the original new Swann stadium was talked about the cost was quoted as £18m and was expected to be covered by the sale of the Glanford Park land as a brownfield site to extend the retail park so the circa £20m was possibly spoken of at that time.
Yes, this was where I got that number from. I remember reading it on Hullberside website. Whether it’s worth that now if sold on I’m obviously not sure.
The real value was more in the land than the actual ground it’s self.
Put it this way, it will be worth more than 12 million pound Swann recklessly spent. If the unthinkable happened, we went bust and he cashed our assets in to sell on for some chain to build on, he’s get that back and then some.
The way I see it is, Swann signed over the towns/clubs assets to cover his own reckless spending. I’m sure I read in the paper or online at the time that the estimated worth of those assets totalled 20+ million so he’s had a bit of a result there it seems.
Swann keeps bleating on about spending money at the club but the money he’s spent he’s gotten back and then some…or shall I say he’s got the assets there to cash in on.
If you look at it like that, he’ll certainly make money…not lose it. The money he pumped in the club for the most part was on loan terms anyway.
There were certainly strings attached. The way he’s banging on you’d have thought he’s recklessly spent money to please all us out of the kindness of his heart.
I’m sick of hearing the same old bullshit.
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