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The lazy journalism (especially local) has been driven by a gutting of the local press. Best journalists gone, no incentive for the big stories to focus on small fry, and maybe fear through it costing them money if it sprawls. Anyway, that’s too much non-footy for this.

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Iron-awe wrote:

Siderite wrote:

I do wish local news was more on the ball with this if the saviour still hasn’t paid out for this month’s wages.

I’m guessing they would need accurate reliable information before doing so, rumours wouldn’t apply, would they

Well, it would be one way to clear up if it’s a rumour or not. It was mentioned and confirmed previously that payments were unorthodox in their arrival.

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I do wish local news was more on the ball with this if the saviour still hasn’t paid out for this month’s wages.

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The problem is that measured critique can get caught up in accusations of ‘trying to bring down the leader’. Then it becomes only acceptable to just toe the line and accept whatever happens. This is the case on the Facebook group.

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Annual events can still be ignored if you don’t like it.

Unfortunately, such celebrations can lead to alcohol and overstepping boundaries to affect others’ boundaries. I don’t see why this should impact feelings towards Pride any more than boozy concert goers or Friday night drunken louts acting like idiots. Despite them acting out, we don’t get so irate about festivals, concerts or nightclubs.

I would like to see Pride be more family friendly, since children go, and feel that kink people need to be ostracised. I know of many gay people, through interacting with them or reading their opinions, and they don’t like how Pride seems a lot more extravagent now (it alienates them as they say their sexuality is just an aspect of them, and they don’t go with the overly camp nature of some of it). That said, I don’t see how this can’t be met with reasonable accommodations and not binning them off altogether. They do form a celebration of acceptance for a minority group who have been downtrodden, and still are in many parts of the world.

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Can we play a bit more nicely? This is getting a bit vitriolic.

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During the coronation and Queen’s death there was saturated coverage and some people put flags out. I understand why, and have nothing against national mourning for the figurehead or celebration at the coronation, but some don’t like it. It would be wrong to act on the whims of those who don’t like it to spoil others’ fun. Just do what republicans do during such times; ignore it. No-one’s forcing others to participate.

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Switch gay for black, Irish or woman and it would look a lot more obviously abhorrent and not because of what some government, god, genie, or other invoked authority says.I don’t think people should be treated worse or not accepted for a personal trait. If that offends or makes others feel uneasy, so what? Precious feelings and disgust are not protected characteristics and I’d rather society didn’t listen to the whims of the morally outraged over their emotional turmoil.

Personally, getting worked up over a pride event seems a bit snowflaky to me. No-one cares about the offence of those looking to be outraged.

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Why on Earth would I be OK with that? I am fed up of your disingenuousness.

It’s your sympathised Saudis who have a more normalised approach to such relationships.

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Age of consent laws have sod all to do with gay rights. Bugger off with your false accusations. Saying two consenting adults can love who they want freely does not mean you want 10 year olds to get into relationships. Stop being disingenuous.

By the way, your sympathised Saudi regime has a huge problem of child brides for older men. So, I don’t think it’s me who needs to be doing soul searching over age of consent if you are just blindly supporting Saudi and trying to link gay rights to paedophilia.

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Awaywego wrote:

I personally admire the Saudi stance on gays it’s their moral issue and similar to mine,

What? Imprisonment and torture?

Thank goodness we have moved on from criminalising people for who they are outside of the dinosaurs. Saudi is a disgusting regime for this, and so many other reasons.

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It’s bad enough when you preach and judge on the other side. If you want to follow Christianity and ascribe your morality, do that. However, you are evidently ignorant of other moral systems and are unable to understand that it’s not ‘making it up as you go along’. I am also not the biggest fan of moral relativism taken to its extreme, but you do you with your prejudiced assumptions of others.

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I don’t think we should base our moralities on the realpolitik of government.

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It’s all very easy t have principles when it takes little effort. Yet, like Beckham before him with Qatar, Henderson will gladly drop all of it for money. I get the temptation with that amount of money, but it is disappointing to see him and others just take the money from a deplorable state who are investing heavily in a sportswashing campaign.

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The catering is a good step and should be applauded.

More of these actions please and less of the bragging about being a saviour and how everyone needs to stop criticising and be grateful. I couldn’t care less about building up someone’s ego.

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I think others will not go because it is an exclusionary bank, while Alison Rose gossiped and gave away private info. That makes her position untenable, but others can maybe justify it a bit more and will have to do some training to prevent a repeat.

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I just can’t believe a CEO would be so idiotic as to leak private information at a party. That is ludicrous and she had to go for that alone, never mind the talk about whether exclusive banks can exclude customers.

I think the problem is slightly more complex in that the report cited financial reasons after he paid off his mortgage, but personal views were included and that is dodgy. Though, given he was offered another account I am not going to lose sleep about the doom of UK freedoms.

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I don’t know why we should, when you won’t look at or understand critiques.

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His claims and opinions are not peer reviewed. They’re opinions and reading about them makes me think they’re flawed.

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Also, please learn what an ad hominem is.

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billpuntonsghost wrote:

I also wonder if any have (posting on here)studied these findings. I very much doubt it. I’ll start with you,Siderite,which paper did you find the most compelling?

I take it you haven’t read them and are just pontificating. It’s not my job to read articles and summarise sources for you, especially since you couldn’t be bothered to read past a few sentences.

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billpuntonsghost wrote:

The ad- hom attacks are laughable.
These references , do you understand any of them?
John Campbell goes through scientific papers,with analysis , not veering from given facts.
Your counter evidence has no substance- unless you can enlighten me further?
“Waiting for another cartoon”, to show your intelligence.

I take it you haven’t read them then. Actual analysis of where excess deaths come from, bad. One guy spoonfeeding his interpretation, making correlation = causation fallacies with vaccine intake and excess deaths, good. In opposite world.

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If you cannot be bothered to read the article, where the link is, why should I bother? You’re clearly not interested in actually understanding if you aren’t bothering to read this, never mind another.

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They’re linked in the article, so I don’t see the point. Anyone interested can access through that. I am also sceptical of your ability to scrutinise studies without bias, given you have gravitated to correlation = causation fallacies already, without thought for the before mentioned strained healthcare and indeed increased likelihood of comorbidities from having covid.

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Studies indicate that COVID-19 vaccination doesn’t increase risk of death, despite misleading video on Europe excess death by John Campbell

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Awaywego wrote:

Your right it doesn’t, have we played Hartlepool on more than one occasion?

I took it to be a reference to the 08/09 season or sometime around then, since Ferrite referenced this time period. If I am wrong, I apologise to MKiron, and I don’t mean harm by him. It’s not an attempt to get at it. I am just showing that people are thinking of the Alfreton game in earlier replies.

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Doesn’t appear that foggy:

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The foggy game was definitely against Alfreton in the FA Cup.

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Awaywego wrote:

He’s showed he doesn’t want the ground already with the 1899 scheme, as fans we shouldn’t want anyone to own the ground other than the fans/iron trust or the council at worst, It was/is a good idea but was to rushed and to dear just needs a re think and am sure it could be successful.

Maybe Hilton should have been clearer if he was expecting fans or fan groups to make the ground purchase. I am pretty sure everyone thought he was planning on sorting this out with his own money when he bought the club and has said that he is the saviour.

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