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The police are the public, the public are the police. I understand the need and difficulties for firearms officers. However, I don’t have much sympathy for them if they are found guilty of wrongdoing. I do not want reductions in stringency and complacency to kick in. The situation in the USA has been bad for decades, I am proud of how we don’t have a policing culture like that. Let’s keep it that way.
Also, with everything going on with The Met I do not think it’s wise to strain community relations further.
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One positive thing I will say about yesterday’s development is that so many came out in support of the banned fans that it shows hope for unity. Fans who dislike Bru putting that aside to call it out. One fan, who had been recently abusing Hilton critics, calling them scum and all sorts apologised to those he abused more than once.
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I believe the comment containing anything regarding his daughter (I believe it was copied and pasted from elsewhere) was deleted quickly. I saw the thread in which it was contained and it disappeared by the next time I looked at the site (no more than an hour). Hilton’s claim that the site tolerated that message is nonsense.
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Group’s been paused for new comments. I wonder how Dave will do his statements now.
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I don’t think it’s fair to include JustIron with those two. He was always respectful towards critics of Hilton, unlike the other two.
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He makes a disgusting comment towards fans, using a horrid slur aimed at intelligence. Yet he doesn’t know the difference between there and they’re. Ironic. Also, assuming it is him, it’s rather stupid to send this out to a fan knowing people can screenshot for posterity.
For what it’s worth, I got told that Hilton had said this to someone a week ago
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The man is a disgrace. This is the final straw for me. No return from this, Hilton. You’ve turned us into an embarrassment.
I am pleased many have backed those banned, including those who were more pro-Hilton. Shame on those who have said otherwise, especially Herbert the rat. I don’t think data breaching is respected by the law, and if the law get involved I have no sympathy.
We have Matt Blanchard, Ellis, Dave Green and one other fan (who hasn’t gone public, wants it private, but has told me elsewhere) banned for airing an opinion. Truly pathetic.
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What we need now is a reply now from Swann regarding these latest posts from Hilton. I definitely don’t trust Hilton whatsoever. Surely Swann won’t want to be known as the past Chairman who destroyed SUFC and broke the hearts of our very loyal supporters.
I can’t see many people trusting Swann’s response, and I think the ship has sailed in Swann escaping blame in our plight. The question is how much will blame will Hilton take too?
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Bored of the emotional manipulation now. Everything he says is about how hard done by he is, while trying to explain away concerning aspects. It’s all designed to make people feel bad for him and feel bad that people dare to hold him to account. From day one he has not been professional, and after much gaslighting nonsense he is reaping the division that was inevitable. I have not seen him ever take responsibility or make an apology for anything without finger wagging at others.
DeereyMe is right in that getting so irritated by this is futile. All I can do is just feel sorrow that him, and the previous idiot have ruined what was a good club.
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Zakarin has been commenting on the Iron since the troubles under Swann. He is That Crazy New Yorker on here.
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I think that’s a fair assessment, Apollo. If this had happened at the start, I’d say there may be disappointment, but more understanding from more people. As it was we heard all these grand plans of a new stadium, how he had the money to buy Glanford Park and has funded what must be a well paid squad for this level. People raising eyebrows were dismissed as anti-Hilton when raising these points and told to shut up or that they wanted the club dead. Now it feels like a huge let down and loss of trust, given the previous claims and attacks on anyone suspicious, to be told it needs to be cut back severely. I know he said that before, but it was during actions which belied that (assembling a costly squad, promising a new stadium and training ground).
These cut backs may be necessary, and the start of this does start from Swann, but the way Hilton has managed our expectations and off-field matters has been incredibly poor.
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I agree. Solidarity to Armenians.
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Oh no. Not different opinions. How can a club cope with that?
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