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BS had some disagreeable views, but I have no desire to see him gone.
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https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1898028774622449905
Let me get this straight. Trump unequivocably cuts off help to Ukraine, promises Russia it won’t do anything to help Ukraine and Trump is raging and surprised that Russia are using this to continue bombing of Ukraine and not seeking peace? He is an utter moron. Of course Russia were going to use this to push for more missile attacks and drone strikes. They don’t want peace, no matter what the useful idiots claim about how it’s all Ukraine’s fault. Now we have USA’s allies no longer trusting the USA and all for nothing. The art of the deal!
The good news is that the territorial gains of Russia over the last month have eroded with some of what has been taken in recent months gone in a week, as Ukraine advances. The unstoppable Russian army is a husk of its self with donkey carriers for supplies, Ladas and disabled veterans being forced to the front line.
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I see Putin is rejecting Trump’s advances. After he was being so nice and promised it would bring peace as well.
https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1897683123451621662
Putin says he won’t stop until Ukraine is all Russia’s and the ‘terrorists’ are defeated. Turns out yelling at the invaded nation and not caring about the aggressor does isn’t a sure fire way for peace after all. Bet this doesn’t change Trump from continuing to harm Ukraine for ‘peace’ though.
Putin is sleeping happy knowing this has caused a huge rift between USA and its allies. This was his goal, not to be USA’s new bud and bringing about peace. It has been for some time and Trump’s been played or doesn’t care.
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Oh, and that’s before we get to the on again off again tariffs causing stock market plummets and rambling about Canada being the 51st state*. No amount of look over there will make that more palatable. Obama weakened the US’s image with a poor Iranian deal, Biden was old and slow, was too old to be president (as is Trump) and made a huge error to push forward with the Afghanistan withdrawal. However, he didn’t torch alliances and disregard them for his own ego or dim witted thoughts about peace. At least Biden didn’t ramble like some half-cooked mad man. This is far more detrimental to the USA and it’s hard to see many recover trust in them.
*I know of many Canadians. They have no desire to be part of the USA, they are not Americans in denial. It’s like saying Walloon Belgians are actually French or Flemish people are actually Dutch. Even among conservative Canadians who might be otherwise more sympathetic to some of Trump’s ideas. The feeling there is one of anger and dislike. A recent poll has positive feeling towards USA at around 24%, compared to 76% negative there.
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He’s trying to end the war in Ukraine by causing capitulation and with no concessions, only encouraging further invasion later down the line, when the same pillocks will lambast the invaded country instead of the aggressor for daring not to submit. As if that is the real problem, not the aggressor wanting to rebuild its old empire. And, of course using means like Vogue to build awareness is the real problem, not the aggressor for invading. As a leader drumming up international support, such means are a thing to get the message out.
The funny thing is that all signs show that the last week has seen an increase in popularity of Zelensky within Ukraine because the Ukrainians know what’s up and what faces them if the ignorant armchair dwellers pontificating for them (yes, I know I am one too, but I don’t go around wanging on about what Ukrainians want without looking at public mood). The second most popular candidate is Zaluzhny, who sees Zelensky as not being strong enough on Russia and third placed Poroshenko is again anti-Russia and was seen as the more anti-Russian candidate at the last election. All 3 are supporting Zelensky, overall, in the war.
As for blowing to bits on the battlefield, far more Russians have died (900,000 by many incoming estimates), yet all the ‘pacifists’ don’t bother screaming about that. It’s only Ukraine who is derided for not giving in because only the evil west should have to make anything for peace, even when wronged. All it makes me think is that the people saying this would gladly see the UK abandon territory and give up in face of invasion. Either that or fighting for sovereignty is fine for me, but not for thee.
Putin has said it to others, more than once, that he sees Ukraine, and others, as his right, that they should be part of his domain because they were when Russia/Soviet Union was a Moscow controlled empire. They made no moves against Finland when they joined NATO, despite the apparent provocation of it; in fact they moved troops away afterwards. There is no question as to why many countries, like Estonia or Latvia, joined NATO in the recent decades. It’s because ofm past Russian wars of aggression and rhetoric. Yet NATO have not once invaded Russia, while Russia have continued to attack others and launch chemical weapons attacks in the UK. Their excuses about NATO are propaganda aimed at fooling others. All to make them turn a blind eye to their aggression. It was funny watching Tucker Carlson practically begging Putin to say the war was because of NATO, only for him to reject it and ramble on about Russia being the only legitimate successor to the kingdom of Rus from the Dark Ages. It’s a war of imperialism, regardless of what the self-flagellaters say about western provocation.
Trump’s wonderful peace plan seemingly involves giving Russia what they want and that’s before any true negotiation. There’s no leverage left because they have said and done stuff already that helps them. Anyone who thinks this is a way to peace is a fool, frankly.
As for NATO, I don’t think any European nation is under any illusion that USA is utterly unreliable now, and that is the fault of Trump and the USA. USAID had a lot of soft power behind it, that’s gone. The cooperation and soft power is going, no-one will be so willing to work with them any more and they can’t moan about it. China is investing in such soft power and are gaining more and more influence. They will quite likely eclipse the USA now, despite Trump’s promise to make America great again. He isn’t the sole cause, but he is dealing the killer blow with some style.
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I see Hegseth of the peace administration is now talking of war with China, after threatening Canada and Denmark over Greenland. Early days before it may or may not ramp up, but it will be tragic to see their new found pals in Moscow side with China over that. Europe would not and should not help either in any way. Not through love of China, if it ever came to it (I am aware it’s all words now), but because we don’t need a war with China and USA has shown it wants to be alone.
Which will lead to more Ukrainian deaths from Russian missiles and drones. Strange, since I have been told Trump cares so much about peace and Ukrainian lives.
Anyway, the outcome of all this is that the USA has torched any reputation of it as being a reputable ally. They’re done. In time they will wake up to the fact that all cooperation and soft power is gone. I have been following the opinions of people across the political spectrum in Europe and a common theme is that we can’t trust the USA anymore. Including among Americanophiles, not just the usual ‘anti-imperialists’ who have seen the USA as the great Satan of unabashed capitalism and world interference. Myself included. The one thing Trump had right is that Europe have been too reliant on the USA for security, but there are ways to do it and this isn’t it. It goes beyond withdrawing support for Europe, but into outright building ties with hostile powers with anti-democratic values. Vance’s lectures are hollow and pathetic when they want to buddy up to the nation of window falling dissidents. Now we have Vance insulting the UK’s army. He didn’t mean that he said, yet it was easily implied from the message. The UK and France are the only ones who fit what he said. If it was a misunderstanding it was because of his own idiocy.
To be fair, the decline of US influence predates Trump. Obama’s foreign policy harmed the US’s standing and the farce in Afghanistan was worse, which Biden owns. However, this administration is a torpedo to any trust and it’s hard to see how it can recover. Even when Trump is gone, even if the next administration is Democrat, there will be many allies who will be wary that relations will have to be cautious because 4 years later we could get some other bully who sees alliances as something to exploit and run over. The Americans whining about what they get from alliances are going to find out what it’s like to be alone or trying to ally with dictatorships, while pretending to care so much about democracy and free speech.
It pains me to say it because I have valued having a free USA as an ally and saw them as the best alternative, but there’s only so much nonsense that can be tolerated. The Brexiters were right that sovereignty is an important thing, but my position was that pooling that for trade had benefits that outweighed when it came to the EU. However, when it comes to the USA waltzing in to Europe trying to decide for us what is best when it comes to our interests in national security, they can sod off. We have our own sovereignty. Germany and others are really ramping up their defence now (thank goodness Merz is going to be chancellor and Scholz is going), France too and we should follow suit. The independence from reliance on the USA is vital now and if that means US bases going, so be it. If this makes me a USexiter, fine, it’s the best way for the UK’s interests given the USA doesn’t care about its allies.
The one winner all this, unfortunately, will be China. Hard for me to see anything but a Chinese superpower now.
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Zelensky has put forward his own stipulations for peace. The problem was that previous bullying gave Ukraine no security for long term peace. The big misunderstanding is that those not pro-Russia or apologising for them doesn’t want peace. That’s not it, but it is recognised that capitulating to Russia with no security guarantees only allows Russia to rearm and try again from a position of greater strength. Of course Starmer, Macron and Zelensky will try and put forward something that is more beneficial to Ukraine that what you’d have gladly had them sign up to.
For someone ‘who just wants peace’ you seem uncaring about how Ukraine can have their sovereignty intact and no further invasions. You, like Trump, put more emphasis on the invaded country, not the aggressor, and I think it’s obvious why. The funniest thing is hearing all these right wingers sound like Corbynites wanging on about peace without consideration as to what it really means. A subjugation of Ukraine to Russia, and all that entails (brutality to the occupied regions) when presumably they would never accept the same happening to the UK. Or maybe they would and are plastic patriots who would gladly surrender sovereignty of British territory to a hostile power, abandoning those living there to war crimes.
The ball will now be in Russia and the USA’s court, but everything the USA has done has given Russia no reason to seek compromise themselves. Why bother when the USA wants to cut off all aid to Ukraine and potentially lifting sanctions without even negotiating or demonstrating peace? They have no incentive not to continue and Ukraine are not going to agree to a surrender deal that gives them no defence from future invasion. And when/if that happens, all the ‘people who just want peace’ will go back to blaming Ukraine and Zelensky, with nothing to say about Russia. The country that invaded because a sovereign Ukraine, that it thinks belongs to its empire, is apparently too much for them.
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Really??
Apparently money for cancer research and medicaid for those who need it is a waste of money, but investing tax money into a system that has been used heavily for scams and buying drugs, to raise profits for crypto investors within the Trumposphere, is a good use of taxpayer money.
He should call it the 1776 club:
On a bit of reflection, my analogy would have been better if it was in response to a claim that Putin wanted peace. However, I still stand by the claims that Trump’s ‘peace’ is meaningless given the context. Putin doesn’t even want it. Ukraine will still fight on without Trump’s approval because they know their country is at stake.
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Another bleak prediction: China will possibly invade Taiwan. USA will do nothing, and maybe criticise Taiwan. Europe will do little as it eyes opportunities with China.
April fools day is next month Bill.
The evil Poles, Churchill and Attlee wanted death, death, death, while poor Hitler and Mussolini wanted peace, peace, peace, but were dragged into war because warmonger UK decided to declare war instead of convincing Poland to a deal which would have favoured Germany to the detriment of Poland.
The free world is now USA and Russia, with its poisoning of dissidents and many window falls for critics. Funny how those who support ‘freedom’ love a tyranny.
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What a great week for speaking home truths.
Free speech being defended, Trump aiming for peace ,peace,peace,Zelenskyy aiming for death,death,death and being shot down in flames. Trump may not be perfect (who is?),but his aims are more inclined to peace and Christian values than the Marxist regime before him.Trump’s peace is to allow Russia to regroup and attack again. You will no doubt be attacking Ukraine then for being ‘warmongers’ then while claiming to stand for peace.
It’s funny how you bemoan Marxism, yet there are many Marxists who make the same silly arguments about ‘peace’ as you do. They also think Zelensky is a warmonger who stands for the evil principles of the west and poor old Putin is being triggered to launch an invasion, where his soldiers abduct Ukrainian children, maim Ukrainian men, mount their heads on pikes, because Ukraine acting in its own sovereign interest should be subject to Russian needs.
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Are we really surprised, they got Zelensky in the press conference and just tried to bully him, no dignity or diplomacy from Trump whatsoever, he’s just proved live on air what the majority have known about him for years. He’s not fit to shovel shit never mind fit to be President of the USA, Zelensky should tell Trump in private to shove his mineral contract up his backside, it does nothing concrete to protect Ukraine it just favours the USA and strokes Trump’s overblown ego.
And we’ve just invited the moron for a state visit after brown nosing him in the White House.
I can understand why Starmer wanted to go over to meet Trump and try and woo him, but that state invitation should never have happened. Not right now while USA wants to backstab Ukraine and Europe. Now it’s a millstone and the government look behind, while 20 European nations, Australia and Canada have all shown support for Ukraine and we haven’t publicly.
The MAGA attempt to excuse this farce is that Zelensky was getting irate first, but what triggered this was Trump and Vance tried to make equivocations about Russians dying too and meetings with Putin. Quite understandably Zelensky pointed out that Putin doesn’t respect ceasefires unless it’s to benefit Russia, and with nothing for Ukraine, that the equivalence in loss of life is not the same as Russia is the aggressor and all this set off the Trump and Vance rage. They are too blinkered and without self-relfection that they can’t consider the viewpoint of someone fighting to defend their own country and think that is a problem because they have swallowed Russian nonsense. They think Zelensky is wanting war because he won’t surrender his country to Russia with no security guarantees. They are too ignorant to think that giving Putin whatever he wants is only encouragement for an attempt to take more, and maybe threaten other countries, so this ‘peace’ they desire is a pitiful one. One that would be, at best, short term. Anyone who listens to Russian arguments made domestically will hear their talk of how the former Soviet bloc needs to be subjugated into Russian control and there’s none of the “we’re threatened by NATO” crap. That’s aimed towards the west for useful idiots to swallow and prevent support for those they try and attack. I realise I am probably preaching to a choir here for the most part.
Could Zelensky have handled it differently? Maybe, but he is under immense stress and had to listen to such offensive rubbish about the war, while he has the weight of his nation on his shoulders. Frustration is understandable when you have pig headed ignoramuses spouting idiocy. He also has to stand up for his countrymen, and from what I have seen, many in Ukraine seem thankful and supportive. I have seen many saying they weren’t big Zelensky fans before, but this shows he has their best interests at heart. For people who love to crow on about how much they ‘care’ for Ukrainian lives because war has a death toll, they don’t seem to listen to what Ukrainians say. The majority of Ukrainians don’t want to be subjugated to Russian rule and understand any ‘peace’ is only temporary unless Russia can be constrained. Trump isn’t promising that, but he and his allies will still speak as if they have Ukrainians at heart when they speak of their ‘peace’.
The mad thing is that Trump and Vance seem to think that Russia is some great power they need to placate. The country has a lower GDP than Italy. Its army has been reduced to a husk of its former self. The Black Sea Fleet has been seen off by Ukraine, the army are often using donkeys and clapped out Ladas to bring troops in because Ukraine has destroyed so much. The winter war of 1939 was seen as an embarrassment for the Red Army because it didn’t subjugate Finland. Yet the Red Army was able to gain more land then than Russia has in the ‘3 day military operation’. The only reason Russia has made any gains recently is because they use their men as cannon fodder to overwhelm Ukrainian supplies, forcing them to retreat. Though, that’s slowed now. Even the most optimistic (for the Russian) estimates is that the Russians can hold out for 2 more years before the war is completely unsustainable for them. The most pessimistic is another 6 months, as it stands. Yet the US wants to hitch itself to this, maybe in the vain hope it cleaves Russia from China. It won’t and it shows that what is happening is that Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are being cleaved from the USA. Russia will likely stay by China’s side. Russia has wanted to see the west damaged and weakened since Putin got it, thinking that will make it more of a power and for revenge. China wants to be the superpower. They have more interests together than with Trump’s USA.
A main thought I have is that this is the end of the US century and the beginning of the Chinese one. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more Chinese involvement in trade and maybe other deals with Europe at least, with USA losing its influence and being left to decline with no sign of USA being great again. None of which is a good thing, it’s sad. The USA has been a good ally and an important force during 80 years of a more peaceful world (the amount of wars had declined since WWII in a more peaceful era than what has generally been known), but it’s surrendering it. I have my issues with many past presidents, but most represented what the USA could be, but this feels like the end. My sadness here is with the Americans who will be affected by the upcoming domestic struggles and having to be dealing with this.
This coming from a British conservative too (former staffer to Michael Fabricant):
https://x.com/btharris93/status/1895539569036312674
I can’t say I disagree, and I am another who hasn’t been so instinctively anti-American. No fan of Reagan or the Bush family, but they were proud American leaders who acted in the best interests of the state, at least according to their beliefs. This jumped up reality mogul and his motley crew have no sense of statesmanship. The USA was pushing for Canada to be expelled from the Five Eyes intelligence sharing network. Not going to happen, the UK, Australia and New Zealand wouldn’t stand for it, but if anything it’s the rest of us who should be treating intelligence sharing with the USA carefully while they have people like Gabbard in such positions.
Or maybe it’s all a ploy for today’s shit show. Trump and Vance an embarrassment to what the USA once stood for. They can go back to voting alongside their new pals Russia, North Korea and Eritrea at the UN. I wonder if Vance is going to lecture Putin on causing war, rather than the defending party, and about their poisoning and window falling of dissidents.
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Part of it is that Trump has a desire to be loved. He will sway to whatever route makes him feel adulated. Putin, Musk, Thiel and co can do that, so he goes along with a lot of their beliefs.
He is now making positive comments about Ukraine and Zelensky probably because Macron and Starmer have successfully placated his ego. It’s either that or he can’t remember what nonsense he spouts given his possibly deteriorating cognitive powers. He still has no respect for checks and balances or principles, but the ideological framework seems to match that of a radicalised Musk and the Heritage Foundation. All because they can tickle his tummy enough.
I bet Beestin and the team are kicking themselves that, despite his chances, the team only managed an xG of 1.3.
The guy is off his head. Alongside that madness there’s this:
February 27, 2025 at 1:26 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #299488Chester seem to be struggling with Oxford City so far too. Comments from their fans is that they have created little so far and it’s scrappy.
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We finished 2nd that season. Hope that isn’t an omen then.
We also lost 0-1 the two seasons before that, when we then lost to Lincoln in the playoffs.
Sounds like a fun holiday. Not the best time of year for weather, but is any time?
The one thing AWG was right about is the value of Whitehall.
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I think it’s pretty obvious that Gurney is aiming some of what he is saying at the Christian members who have posted here. While we might not know each other’s names, there is a person behind the screen and some get frustrated by such jibes.
Though, on a tangent, this looks an interesting documentary on the war on evangelical Christianity in Ukraine through trying to forcefully supplant it with Russian Orthodoxy:
https://x.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/1893028475524780171
This is what Russia is, it’s not the great defence of Christianity as made out by apologists, but a fascist country trying to force other countries to its whim, eradicating their cultures and replace it with Russian.
And/or they don’t want to debate when the OP is signalling an intent to spoil for a squabble. I suspect I would be on the same page as Gurney for a lot of the stuff on this, and could into a lengthy diatribe about my thoughts on the situation (I will spare you all that), but people get stressed when the posts seem to be more of a personal attack than a debate.
Ever the provocateur!
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