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Still doesn’t change the issue that the club said he committed to staying when he hadn’t given that it said it was a ‘return’ after negotiating.

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Well, Butler has had us go further in the playoffs than Jimmy and with a weaker squad.

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I suspect not. Responsibility is for others.

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How long before the interview gets pulled from the site?

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TW likes his watery lagers.

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Montel may not have said that he was committed to staying. That was a claim put forward by others. It’s funny how these shenanigans always follow Dave and it’s always others being duplicitous.

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The table is a liar until the last game. I remember a decade ago when Portsmouth won League Two and hadn’t ever touched top spot, even for results as they stand during games, until the last 15 minutes of the final game.

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It’s this kind of guilt tripping and lies that already scream red flag and why I worry for Matlock.

No doubt it will be because Gibson is a rotter out to get Dave, like it was for Bru, Bury AFC, Matt Slater, George Taft, the FA, every business that filed a CCJ and every Tom, Dick and Harry.

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It’s never good to blow one’s own trumpet. It makes you appear like you’re trying to convince yourself and doesn’t really convince others.

Come on pot and kettlle

This might mean something if I thought I was some great shakes and not a flawed person like everyone else on this forum.

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Sod’s law we get Buxton in the semis.

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I don’t think it will, mate, to be fair. I honestly don’t think your lot will recover from this. But thanks all the same.

Hard luck lad; good luck in the playoffs. Blown it.

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It’s never good to blow one’s own trumpet. It makes you appear like you’re trying to convince yourself and doesn’t really convince others.

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Reckon we’ve settled for third place!

Might be second, ahead of the champions elect.

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This is why I never subscribed to the idea that Kiddy were shoo ins for the title, even with our stuttering away form. Brackley had the easiest run in and Kiddy could easily stumble.

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I don’t think Matlock fans were swayed by your opinions tbh. They were more likely motivated by their own worries over where the club may be without promised investment over what you have to say. I don’t think you or us are important enough to have much influence over Matlock fans.

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You will have a lot of sympathy from Scunny fans and Bury fans, Mtfc fan. I suspect those who voted yes might not get so much if things do go awry, but I understand the scaremongering tactics used on the fans. It was done here.

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I wonder who he’ll foster as the scapegoat with Matlock like with Bury AFC or Bru. There’s the cricket club, I guess, but the divide and conquer strategy will need some on the fanbase to be the enemy tormenting poor Dave.

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Fans get passionate about their teams and many feel anger towards those who they feel ruined their club. Hilton was happy to seize on ill feeling towards Swann. In time it will die down, but people will still have a say where it is relevant due to historical connection.

Grimsby fans still discuss Fenty when he crops up in talking points. We are not unique. Mark Weaver was told to avoid going to Donny ever again after he left, ‘mad Ken’ Richardson of Donny died a couple of years ago and some Donny fans cheered it on their forum. I saw rumours of SISU buying out Reading and Coventry fans were not being kind on social media. Same for other clubs with their disliked owners. I get it may be hard to hear for those with sympathy to the owner, but surely some understanding of how hurt fans were is in order and that when topical news items appear, like with Matlock, there will be some discussion and not necessarily positive.

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Not really, but given the history of Hilton with Scunny it is bound to generate discussion and maybe you should accept that many won’t be positive given how it ended. Whether you agree with it or not, many won’t like him and himself and you will just have to live with that. You can’t force everyone to like you. I don’t care if you like me, you shouldn’t care that I and others think Hilton is a slimeball. It’s not just limited to here either. I have heard not so positive comments at Scunny games from fans, as well as on twitter and Facebook. He left with us in peril and many will blame him for that.

The antagonistic kind of talk you have engaged in is the sort which created issues among some Scunny fans then and now. That was one of the things that caused souring and many suspect it was deliberate for his own ends. If you think that’s wrong, fine, it may well be, but everything done by himself and you on here helped cause the divide. Intentional or not.

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I don’t particularly care who you feel sorry for. I am quite content in the knowledge that I didn’t clap along the con man’s antics, didn’t excuse and I don’t live a live sad enough to go onto another club’s forum to insult others for daring not to see positive in a mate who contributed to the club’s downfall (I am not letting Swann off the hook).

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Rene Artois

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You’re supposed to be a burger flipper for Ilkeston, yet you’re continuing to care about what Scunny fans say about your con man pal on our own forum. Crazy or what?

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Little chance of that though if Hilton gets the club you saddos will be wanting it to fail won’t you.

No. We’ll be wanting him to fuck off, and the Club to survive and prosper.

If we wanted Matlock to fail, we’d be cheering him on with his exploits.

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Just like with us, happy clapping Hilton like a seal will do sod all for Matlock. Having concerns is not anti-democratic or wanting to fail.

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I didn’t realise that we had to agree or refuse to listen to our concerns if one group vote for something. If Matlock vote him in I won’t be clapping along like a seal, but I’d be worried for them.

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There goes the dummy.

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Ah, the usual blackmail and guilt tripping from nice guy Dave.

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He may have scammed, bullshitted and sowed divisions among the fanbase for his own ends, but at least he’s a nice guy according to his mates.

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How many con men do you need to apologise for to be a genuine fan?

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