Hiltons matlock

[BigLeftToe]

Pat, in the interest of everyone on this forum…please do wind your neck in and kindly f*k off. Thanks.

[Patrick0811]

Bang on there mate, and could your lot do the same where Matlock is concerned?….its got nothing to do with you has it?

[Siderite]

Not really, but given the history of Hilton with Scunny it is bound to generate discussion and maybe you should accept that many won’t be positive given how it ended. Whether you agree with it or not, many won’t like him and himself and you will just have to live with that. You can’t force everyone to like you. I don’t care if you like me, you shouldn’t care that I and others think Hilton is a slimeball. It’s not just limited to here either. I have heard not so positive comments at Scunny games from fans, as well as on twitter and Facebook. He left with us in peril and many will blame him for that.

The antagonistic kind of talk you have engaged in is the sort which created issues among some Scunny fans then and now. That was one of the things that caused souring and many suspect it was deliberate for his own ends. If you think that’s wrong, fine, it may well be, but everything done by himself and you on here helped cause the divide. Intentional or not.

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Rene Artois

[TheJuryeffsOut]

Patrick0811 wrote:

Oh dear, think you have summed it brilliantly, your club has thrown automatic promotion away, things look decidedly dodgy in every respect, and this forum is totally obsessed with Dave Hiltons Matlock takeover?…. your forum is supposed to be about the Iron, and hopefully to put constructive criticism to help the club, you desperately need to win the play offs, concentrate on that!… your hatred for Dave Hilton seems to be important…. crazy or what?

If you didn’t keep rearing your head on here talking shite, there’d be one page of this topic with half a dozen posts to help mtfcfan, and Awaywego disagreeing.
There’s plenty of threads discussing Scunthorpes promotion attempt, the board, Butler, players etc.

[Iron-awe]

Thought Patrick might be explaining where DH gets his money from these days, is it by important high quality Colombian sausage and burgers and selling them on the streets through a local catering colossus?

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Rene Artois

[Patrick0811]

I know you mean well, and I have come across you before, but if you constantly attack someone who has moved on, it means you can not/have not moved on yourself?
The hatred towards Swanny was quite unbelievable, and relentless, now it’s Mr Hilton, do you really need someone to hate and blame for everything that goes wrong?….. especially as it’s been going wrong for many years before Dave Hilton came along, many like me, think he jumped on a sinking ship, my opinion only but I stand by it.

[Patrick0811]

Yes your bang on there, he imports the drugs wholesale, by the tonne, I knock them out on my burger van at £5 a pop, the queue is about 5 miles long, and on a Sunday me Dave have a share out in the car park while eating a double bacon cheeseburger, but he has to pay for the burger because that is not part of the deal, we give a discount to the local police, and only charge for a single burger instead of a double to keep them off our backs…. happy days ( they do go over the top though with my Heinz ketchup but Dave gives me half towards the cost)

[Siderite]

Fans get passionate about their teams and many feel anger towards those who they feel ruined their club. Hilton was happy to seize on ill feeling towards Swann. In time it will die down, but people will still have a say where it is relevant due to historical connection.

Grimsby fans still discuss Fenty when he crops up in talking points. We are not unique. Mark Weaver was told to avoid going to Donny ever again after he left, ‘mad Ken’ Richardson of Donny died a couple of years ago and some Donny fans cheered it on their forum. I saw rumours of SISU buying out Reading and Coventry fans were not being kind on social media. Same for other clubs with their disliked owners. I get it may be hard to hear for those with sympathy to the owner, but surely some understanding of how hurt fans were is in order and that when topical news items appear, like with Matlock, there will be some discussion and not necessarily positive.

[Apollo11]

Patrick0811 wrote:

if you constantly attack someone who has moved on, it means you can not/have not moved on yourself

Hilton’s tenure is an actual part of our Club’s history so we’re entitled to discuss him as often as we see fit.

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Rene Artois

[Patrick0811]

To be fair, you do talk a lot of sense, I don’t agree with all you say but I do a lot of it.
I feel if your club had won the league,and not be in the play offs again, there would not be the interest in Mr Hiltons business interests? , just wonder what Swanny is up to these days?… not a mention anywhere of what he is up to is there?…. and boy was he hated by everyone in Scunthorpe!…. but he passed the baton on to Hilton it seems,

[Apollo11]

Patrick0811 wrote:

I feel if your club had won the league,and not be in the play offs again, there would not be the interest in Mr Hiltons business interests?

Wrong.

[Rene Artois]

P@rick… why does WHAM covet acquiring and owning a FC beyond compulsion, as if it’s his holy grail?

[Patrick0811]

In this free country everyone has the right to do what they like, it has to be acceptable to other people or it won’t be successful, the Matlock fans have the choice to accept Dave Hilton or not?…. the Matlock fans will be very aware of how things did not go so well at Scunthorpe,especially if they log on to this forum, but they, Being a very close neighbour to Ilkeston will also be very aware that Dave Hilton played a big part in the transformation of Ilkeston FC along with my son Andrew, incidentally Matlocks last game was indeed at Ilkeston town last Monday, it was a pleasure to host them and David Hilton, as you probably know they vote today to have him or not?… it has nothing to do with me, Ilkeston Town, and more importantly the resident Hilton haters in this forum has it?…. the other forum you have at Scunthorpe, the one you call the “Happy Clappers”… don’t seem so obsessed with Hilton and barely mention him at all, they seem to have moved on and seem more concerned with matters on the pitch and trying to influence attacking football at Scunthorpe, personally I think that is more beneficial to your team than obsessing about water under the bridge…don’t you?

[Rene Artois]

A polititious answer.
Why not return to Ilkeston as joint owner to ignite a pyramidal ascent?
We all know two heads (and more) are better than one – ask Hecatoncheires.

[Patrick0811]

I will try to answer that as best I can, with my own personal thoughts.
We at Ilkeston are realistic, we are a football club in a small town sandwiched between two massive clubs (Forest and Derby), to be where we are in the Northen premier league and finish one place off the play offs for your current league is a major achievement for a club as small as ours with a relatively low average attendance, mainly because most of our fans are season ticket holders at the 2 big clubs and watch us when their team is away, of course we have a small hard-core of fans that do not support the bigger clubs, so really we are punching above our weight, if we could get to NLN like Rushall did, we too would probably not last so long either?…. as I said we are realistic here.
David Hilton aspires to be at a higher level than possible at Ilkeston, Matlock have no competion for fans and have far better average attendances than us, so this may be his reason thinking he could go further than possible with Ilkeston?… I don’t know and as I said these are my personal thoughts, I know Dave very well and he is a very ambitious person, so if he wants to reach for the stars that’s fine, if he does and it works out that’s great, if he doesn’t get there at least he has had a go hasn’t he…. and most people love a trier, and if he does get there we could have a Brian Clough/Leeds Utd situation, where he was hounded out of Leeds, went on to be a European cup double winner while Leeds sunk down faster than the Titanic drowning their Brian Clough hating fans along the way….. think on!

[SODIron]

I have no interest in reading about how Hilton wants to reach for the stars; based on the evidence that we all saw with our own eyes he (Hilton) should never be allowed anywhere near a football club. His tenure as Scunthorpe United was full of false promises, outright lies, and sowing division amongst the fans.

I really hope that the supporters of Matlock can see through the BS spouted by Hilton and his lickspittles and say no to his offer.

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[Patrick0811]

That’s fine, you are entitled to your opinion.
I am just going to have a cup of tea and try and work out why you are reading my posts when you clearly state you have no interest at all in reading them?….simple solution to your problem…DONT READ THEM…problem solved, hope this has helped you?

[SODIron]

Please, by all means, retreat to your brew and ponder the ancient mystery of why someone might respond to a public post on a public platform. It’s a real noodle-scratcher. Like writing a billboard, then being scandalized that someone read it without your permission.

And as for the “simple solution”, if unsolicited opinions bothered you, you might want to reconsider shouting yours into the void of the internet. You don’t get to toss confetti and then clutch your pearls when someone comments on the mess.

But hey, I hope the tea helps you find the answers you seek. Maybe throw in a biscuit of self-awareness while you’re at it—goes great with denial.

Ta-ta, and don’t scald yourself on that hot take.

[Deereyme66]

Any Matlock Town supporters who are eligible to vote and haven’t listened to the views of your former Chairman, Martin Harrison, on last night’s Sportscene on BBC Radio Derby, you can catch by clicking the link below. Ten minutes interview from 45:30. If this doesn’t wave red flags about giving this convicted fraudster 100% of your club, along with his horrific history at SUFC, plus countless other accounts out there, I don’t know what will:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0l331xc?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

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TheJuryeffsOut

[Deereyme66]

Ignore the pathetic PR job being unscrupulously undertaken on here by his good friend and ally and listen to the views of Martin Harrison, including ‘it was never a donation’; ‘press and PR from the club is incorrect’; ‘confused why he wants 100% ownership’; ‘the whole this isn’t right’ etc.

This man speaks eloquently and sensibly about this situation and is extremely concerned about Hilton taking over and relinquishing being fan led.

From the evidence presented thus far, no sensible person would allow Hilon to take 100%. I wouldn’t have him anywhere near a football club ever again. It’s a shame the FA seem to be doing zilch to stop this.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Dave Hilton compared to Brian Clough, the Kool aid has well and truly being consumed.

Tried taking you at face value before Patrick, but you’re writing style is eerily close to that of the messiah himself which suggests you’re probably another goon at his disposal along with Herbert.

Let’s be honest, there’s information many on here know of Hilton that’s pretty damning of his character and his intentions both at Scunthorpe United and elsewhere. He should be nowhere near a football club.

[Deereyme66]

Have a listen to that interview with Martin Harrison Cliff. Very revealing. Only 10mins, from 45min 30secs. Some may ask why we have such a vested interest in this. Quite simple really. We are all football supporters and don’t want to see what happened to our club happen to others. It’s that simple. Just doing the right thing instead of ignoring it now we’re rid of him.

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[CMC]

Patrick0811 wrote:

Ilkeston fine, still an outside chance of making the play offs, we don’t anyone a penny

Good effort after 8 years in Business. Just don’t mention the past…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-11231856

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40157987#:~:text=Ilkeston:%20Northern%20League%20club%20wound%2Dup%20in%20High%20Court%20over%20%C2%A314%2C500%20debt&text=Northern%20Premier%20League%20club%20Ilkeston%20have%20been%20wound%2Dup%20in%20the%20High

Good Luck Matlock!

[unity iron]

I fear for the future of Matlock Town. Mr Harrison speaks well and out of love for his former club. If David Hilton takes control they are well and truly knackered. A conman, a fraud and a charlatan who almost killed Scunthorpe United. If Matlock fans are reading this; do not vote for this man he is lower than a snake’s belly and an absolute scumbag.

[Apollo11]

Patrick0811 wrote:

In this free country everyone has the right to do what they like

Piss poor nonsense to justify morally redundant behaviour.

[Apollo11]

Patrick0811 wrote:

That’s fine, you are entitled to your opinion.
I am just going to have a cup of tea

You sure it’s not a cup of Kool Aid?

[Iron-awe]

More lke the finest Colombian coffee sprinkled on top with that fine Colombian white powder him and his criminal friend seem to enjoy.

[Apollo11]

Iron-awe wrote:

More lke the finest Colombian coffee sprinkled on top with that fine Colombian white powder him and his criminal friend seem to enjoy.

A line of David’s Dandruff followed by a can of Red Bullshitter.

[Cliff Byrne’s Right Peg]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Have a listen to that interview with Martin Harrison Cliff. Very revealing. Only 10mins, from 45min 30secs. Some may ask why we have such a vested interest in this. Quite simple really. We are all football supporters and don’t want to see what happened to our club happen to others. It’s that simple. Just doing the right thing instead of ignoring it now we’re rid of him.

Just listened, thanks. Well that’s the first lie confirmed- he hasn’t put 200k in as a donation

Very important to keep track of events as of now as his usual goons will be along to twist/distort and lie; aswell as interviews and statements online going missing.

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[Mtfc fan]

The votes are in and Mr Hilton is taking over the club !!!!

I voted no and am now very worried. Let’s hope our board that that scared fans into voting yes are right and it’s a good thing.

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