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I am uneasy with the liberal use of ‘filth’ and ‘scum’ even if I agree with some of what is said, including callous disregard for the poor from many.
We need to cut financial help for the poor to fund tax cuts for the rich, so they can generate help with energy bills for those who need it. Makes sense.
Labour haven’t been in power for 12 years, so I don’t see how they can be afforded equivalent blame. There are global causes for financial imbalance, but that didn’t stop Tories from capitalising on Labour mistakes in the 2000s when the financial crash was global. The same applies now when the Tories have made an unforced error. Most other countries have managed to enact policies without worsening the situation, so they can’t palm away responsibility. Their supposed help with energy costs won’t wash when they put pensions at risk, make mortgages costly and reportedly cut benefits for those who need help the most with energy bills.
The do something argument also applies for net zero. We know we need to reduce carbon emissions, but wind and solar energy security has been lethargic. There has been a woeful reluctance to utilise nuclear, which would have helped a lot, but this doesn’t mean we should have done nothing for helping future generations with the effects of climate change.
However, I do apologise if I have read too much into it. I can be blunt and find Bucks’s attitude to be grating. Personality clash, maybe, nothing more.
Like I said, this is my honest opinion of Buck and his arguments. If he is going to come on here with a perceived patronising and arrogant attitude, making out that anyone else is beneath him, then reactions may happen.
Maybe I can do better, but I am not going to lose too much sleep over it. If Bucks wants to treat everyone like an idiot and demeaning anyone else who thinks differently he might get disdain from those he derides.
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It should also be said that if the system, such as LDIs being overly relied upon because of the low interest rates, you don’t just put the system at risk with gung-ho madness. It does not absolve the government for chaotic idiocy.
However, because this disagrees with Bucks, I am prepared to be patronised to the inch of my life and told how I am disingenuous and someone who can’t have a valid opinion from another line of thought. And if I react to this, I am ‘abusing’ him.
Downgradings of ratings, damages to gilts, mortgages and pensions at risk. However, it’s all ok because every single concerned body of high status is a full of it ‘expert,’ unlike Bucks, who we should trust, otherwise we’re Marxists, usual suspects, and disingenuous.
It’s not convincing, but part of me thinks carry on. This attitude is what got the Tories into the mess they’re in, in popularity, so be my guest and shoot yourself in the foot.
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*I have not abused you. I have given some negative opinions of how I view your argument and personality. I am not going to be politically correct and dress it up to protect thin skins.
Bore off with the usual suspects crap, as if anyone who disagrees with you is suspect. You bemoan anyone else, but have your own rigid ideas which are not up for question. And if they are, it’s because we’re left wing guttersnipes.
The only thing you have shown is your astounding arrogance and dismissals of everyone else as stupid, while whining if anyone dares to question your ‘expertise’. Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn’t mean they’re ignorant or reliant on others.
The pound unsurprisingly reacted to BoE intervention, costing £65 billion in the process. If your economic ‘expertise’ involves BoE taking drastic measures, then I am alarmed and unlikely to trust your ‘expertise’. Instead of howling about how everyone else is disingenuous, try and deal with your own argument. We are not obliged to take this weak position as gospel, because your ego thinks of yourself as some great expert.
Of course there is the usual crap about critics being left wing. You’re just like the Corbynites. In your and their ideal world there would be no critique, just pandering to their ideological silliness. Corbynites see anyone to the right of Chavez as right wing, you see anyone to the left of Reagan as left wing. Hence the idiocy coming out that anyone critical of pensions, mortgages, loss of gilts are overreacting lefties. I never knew city traders were a secret hive of Che wannabes.
I eagerly await the howls of ‘abuse’ and ‘insults’ from someone because I haven’t played along with their nonsense.
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“Many of us have also been warning that Germany and others were heading for trouble if they continued to rely on gas supplied by a despot”.
Us??? Such pomposity. Wasn’t aware that German leaders were keen readers of the forum.
Also, those who are disagreeing with Bucks don’t unanimously think everything others have done has been great. Germany’s decision to cut back on nuclear has been disastrous.
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Also, I would say there is more to deciphering whether a leader is doing a good job than approval ratings. For example, the 30% of ardent Trump fans are hardly going to say Biden is doing a good job, from a place of reasoned argument, no matter what.
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Of course it has after BoE stabilisation. If you’re pinning your economic hopes on emergency intervention to bail us out as economic policy, I would be concerned.
Bucks doesn’t accept that there will be any meaningful consequences of climate change, so he’ll just shrug his shoulders at that.
Hallo hallo anybody in, earth calling Buck’s wake up and smell the coffee, come out of the darkness and read posts based on facts.
Partisan Tories are really grasping at straws to pretend this is normal. If it wasn’t for the fact many will now suffer because of their ideology I would be pleased, as it is electoral suicide.
One thing party supporters should bear in mind is that it’s never good when the opposite side rub their hands with glee. Tories understandably did it with Corbyn, now Tories should think why Labour are getting more optimistic with Truss. The more they delude themselves and double down, the more gleeful hands will be rubbed.
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Bucks battling against reality and acting like the this is fine meme. Suits me, if the Tories delude themselves along his thinking they’re not going to improve in ratings.
10 years ago we needed to reduce the deficit, reduce borrowing because we spent too much, so the poor need to have services cut back. Now we need to borrow to fund tax cuts for the rich. It’s transparent.
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Unlike the Corbyn years, said person got rightfully dealt with.
Keep believing in that documentary, whose star witness was disbarred from being a lawyer for dishonesty.
Meanwhile, the EHRC, BBC and everyone else under the Sun have to be lying.
The docu maker got a after nomination for it too.The “lefty”y Bc should be ashamed for what they put these people through ,so should the “moderates”.Its shocking, Pravda would be embarrassed
Such a shame these poor souls were called out for their anti-Semitism, harassment of others. Poor victims.
Ah yes, a documentary on a channel with Holocaust denial, which includes a Holocaust denier and someone who has tried to connect Israel to paedophiles. That’s definitely going to woo me.
“Made up lies” lol. Still in denial.
Someone has taken a picture of Bucksiron mulling over his responses:
*This is meant to be a bit of tongue in cheek banter, not an attempt at bullying or insulting. We all have to laugh at ourselves. There’s plenty to laugh about me, after all.
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I’d love to know where the insults are in this thread. IA calling Truss St Liz, me sarcastically calling Lilico and Hannan geniuses?
That’s tame and the sort of thing most engage in. Maybe I should be woke and politically correct in future and not gently tease anyone who I think have made daft arguments. There are hardly death threats, grievous insults (like c**t) being used. I have seen Bucks language of a similar kind before, but it’s ok when he does it.
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September 28, 2022 at 5:43 pm in reply to: The Tory, Oops, I mean Labour Conference is Going Well #245709‘But the plain truth is that this would be a Labour government I could live with, nationalisation or otherwise. I might even be in favour of some of that. Sorry to disappoint you.’
Okay, couple of points of order:
‘I might even be in favour of some of that. Sorry to disappoint you.”
Wrong end of the stick again. Frankly I wouldn’t give a damn whether you’d be on board or not. But hey! The more the merrier. I merely pointed out re-nationalisation as an example of how your ‘Tories in disguise’ claim is so wide off the mark. That’s before we even get on to realistic plans for the NHS and the inevitable income boost to local authorities, particularly those red wall ones your Party has starved and shat on, and other traditional Labour seats.
‘A Labour government I could live with’. So you’re suggesting if it didn’t meet your approval, you’d do what exactly? Leave the country? Is it the tried and tested ‘my way or the highway’ approach again?
Misrepresenting everyone’s points to suit his agenda seems to be his aim.
On the other thread, me saying net zero didn’t cause the specific downturn in the pound, and the immediate consequences of that, is me arguing about the effect of policies on the energy prices to begin with!
Debate with Bucks is literally impossible.
“Actually, I didn’t say that anyone had insulted me,”
Literally the post before on this thread by you:
“No constructive argument, just insults.”
Also, doing nothing wouldn’t have caused a crash which has jeopardised mortgages and pensions. Not only that, made fuel costs worse. Other countries somehow managed not to short their currency and damage the economy with actions to mitigate the cost of living crisis.
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Whoosh. I can’t be arsed engaging with any debate if you miss the point entirely.
And, no, that is not an insult. I am not beholden to hold your opinion in great esteem, just as you aren’t with others, as you often have shown.
I have not insulted you. I have criticised your argument. Bore off with your martyr complex.
Net zero is not why the pound crashed. The point is that this has been caused by Kwarteng’s and Truss’s non-budget. The rising dollar shows that it’s not a global phenomena. You may be ok with mortgages becoming unaffordable and pension funds crashing, but the poorer aren’t.
You fumbling around just makes me trust your economic opinion less.
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September 28, 2022 at 3:09 pm in reply to: The Tory, Oops, I mean Labour Conference is Going Well #245692I don’t think Starmer thinks it’s in the bag. A lot has been said over the last few days of avoiding complacency, but please forgive Labour supporters for being happy. We’re allowed to have some optimism. Gurny doesn’t represent the Labour party.
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Well, that BoE stabilisation went well. Pension funds are getting hammered and losing funds. Someone tell reality that it’s over-reacting*.
*And if not, it’s because of Starmer or woke IMF or the deep state remainers or the pound sterling is a communist!
Kwarteng had no choice to step in and come up with the bonkers plan he did, which achieves nothing and will (in all likelihood) achieve nothing? Even many Tories are aghast, because they know how daft it is.
Energy costs are rising. Yet other nations didn’t crash the pound with their plans. Oh, wait, that’s someone else’s fault. It always is.
Meanwhile, we’re left with the fantasy that cutting tax burdens for the rich will help those who really need it. If I wanted to write a budget which would lose support for the Tories, I couldn’t have done a better job.
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