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2,500 Wrexham fans but impressive none the less for a team nearly as bad as us.
If he was a great centre forward he would not be here.
He is however, the nearest thing to a centre forward we have had for years.
Poor decision making and not the best first touch is what stops him being 2 or 3 levels higher. Be interesting to see how good he can get if he has a full season of games for the first time in his career.
Suspect he will be gone in January to a club a bit higher up the food chain than Oldham.
Not sure it’s attitude or even fitness. Beeston at his best is a decent attacking midfielder. Defensively he doesn’t have much idea which is why he’s not playing at a higher level. Not really Butterfield’s strong suit either so when they are facing a 3 that can play a bit they are going to struggle without support from the wing backs and/or one of the centre backs.
This is even more of a problem when your front players are letting their back line pass at will which was happening all of the first half.
Second half we upped the tempo and got their midfield heading back to goal most of the time. Dorking could have still had a couple in the second half though.
The current players and formation will only work if we accept we will concede a few but think we can score more. Personally I am happy with that approach particularly at home or away against the lesser teams.
If you try it at the likes of Wrexham or Solihull you are likely to get a spanking.
Our midfield did not exist in the first half for 2 reasons.
1. Apter had a free role. In his head that means without the ball he doesn’t need to pick men up and when we do have the ball he needs to dribble through their whole team and shoot. This left Beeston and Butterfield trying to look after a 3 in there. Not blaming Apter for this. He has talent but is only 19 FFS and needs telling where and how to play.
2. They had 2 men in their back line that could pass the ball forward properly. The long haired guy was good at it and their number 3 was exceptionally good at it. Our front 2 should have focused on those 2 and let their other defenders or goalkeeper kick it long. There was one moment that summed up the first half. Their keeper passed a goal kick short to their number 3. He dribbled past Nuttall’s half hearted challenge in his own box. Nuttall stood and watched him stroll into our half unchallenged and play a dangerous ball forward. Most players when they have the piss taken out of them would have chased the culprit down and left an agricultural challenge on him.
To be fair Dorking were good in that first half. I have never seen a team break with the ball and quickly get 5 or 6 bodies in the box. They did this half a dozen times in the first half alone. You can see why they score and concede so many goals. An entertaining team to follow not least for the owner managers interviews.
Someone Swann could learn from. If you own the club and feel the need to pick the team then be upfront about it and take responsibility for the successes and failures.
Been a while since the Iron made a profit.
They beat Notts County 3-1 last week and already have won as many games as we did last season.
Mind you I saw the highlights and Slocombe was at fault with all 3 goals.
I saw his younger brother played for Scotland U-19’s the other night.
Talented family!
H wasn’t seen much when last here as a player.
Was still the Old Show Ground last time I went to a match with flairs.
On a more serious note York’s needing the trainer on every 5 minutes for mysterious injuries and the referees “look at me” antics both disrupted the game far more than the Donny Road boys.
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I wouldn’t say the team have found their mojo yet but I think they may have spotted it in the distance.
A bit strong to be calling your son and his mates morons. Are you the elder Cygnet in disguise?
Runs his bar like he runs football clubs?
But less adrift than we probably would have been.
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He is very good at recycling LK.
Might be a relief to finally reach hell after 5 years of purgatory Renee.
What is he holding on for? Is it going to increase in value with the country in recession and the football club well on the path to oblivion.
I have little idea and even less interest in the value of the land with limited planning consent but I’m fairly sure it’s not an appeciating asset.
Cutting his nose off to spite his face it seems to me. Or more likely he can afford to spite us fans that did not bow to his magnificence.
Valuations in company accounts have more to do with what the shareholders need the valuation to be than the the market value.
That is true of SUFC and Coolsilk as it is of most businesses. Even that valuation is from a long time before the team was propping up the National League.
An independent market valuation would be interesting. A piece of land with planning permission for some apartments is worth a few quid but a long way short of £5m.
A football club with a future in NLN beckoning is worth very little in terms of market value.
There are people out there. Just not people prepared to pay 2 or 3 times the clubs value.
Had a whole 2 days as manager and that’s the best he can come up with.
Let’s give the kit man the job next week. If we lose then the stadium announcer for the following Tuesday’s game. Then there is Scunny Bunny.
Should have worked through to John Staff by Christmas.
5 years of mismanagement and piss poor recruitment. Even Pep or Jurgen would need more than a couple of days.
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Shouldn’t open the wine early on a Sunday. Apologies Awaywego.
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What a great legacy he left, national Minimum wage, sure start centres, the Belfast agreement, school building programme, the Human rights act, and some will even say rights for gays including the introduction of the civil partnership.
Given the state of the country is probably on par with the state of our football club you don’t really believe that bullshit do you?
I suppose its what happens when you put a fat lying entitled arrogant shit in charge of anything.
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Most football fans (apart from Man United) can tolerate their team not being great.
It’s really dispiriting when your team is absolutely sh1te. Especially when you are in your fifth season of garbage.
He is making them in the Championship though NI albeit at the wrong end of it.
Not sure what Mr Swann gains by not selling the club.
The land is only worth serious money with outline planning permission. Retail was the obvious fit but nobody wants retail space anywhere right now let alone on the edge of Scunthorpe.
Potential light industrial or office space is hardly in big demand.
That only leaves residential and given the hoops he had to go through to get the permission for the apartments and his poor relationship with North Lincs Council I find it hard to believe permission would be forthcoming for a further wedge of apartments or houses.
Nothing wrong with him trying to get the best price he can but as a football club the value must already have dropped since the start of the season given it is now a club in serious danger of being cut adrift in the relegation zone of the National League. The club is already 1,000 down on crowds since the start of the season.
I have no inside information but I believe cash flow is needed to finish the Blackpool hotel so it can start generating revenue. Liquidation followed by planning applications and then a land slade is a very slow way to generate cash.
The club have about a month to take the actions that could allow them to stay in the National League.
If we are heading for NLN then a Phoenix club becomes a cheaper and probably better option.
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Presume Ogle is injured and Rowe is at right back.
Probably the team I would have picked.
I hope Tony Daws does.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm creeping into this thread?
Reminds me of the famous quote from American baseball player Tug McGraw of the Mets, whose biography is titled “Screwball,” was asked if he preferred grass or AstroTurf: “I don’t know, I’ve never smoked AstroTurf.”
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I am probably on my own with this but I don’t buy into this view that O’Malley is suddenly incapable of being a left back.
Pre Hill most of us thought he was great going forward but a little naive defensively particularly his positioning.
Despite a management team of ex defenders he has not improved his positioning in fact has probably got worse. I think this is down to a consistent Hill tactic of insisting his full backs are narrow with the centre backs when the team does not have the ball.
For me that can work in a 4-4-2 when there is wide cover to stop the easy balls out to wide men but when used with Hill’s favoured 4-3-3 it simply leaves the opposition with easy out balls to wide men with the nearest defender 30 yards away.
Some have suggested opposition have targeted O’Malley. They actually target the wide free spaces on both sides of the pitch.
When a wide man gets the ball and you are 30 yards away all the options are with him. He has time to control the ball if the pass is not perfect, has time for the early diagonal cross without challenge or can take the late arriving full back on at speed.
Full backs are on a hiding to nothing with these tactics. I think they come from a lack of trust in centre backs. Let the full backs drop to cover the wide men and limit the supply and the centre backs have a much better chance to cope with a lower number of crosses with most of the ones that do get through delivered under challenge.
Hill was a tactical buffoon. Played 4-3-3 because it works for Liverpool and Man City. They have world class defenders that can play out from back and goalkeepers that could play as outfielders. We have centre backs with boots on the wrong feet to quote Nigel.
Get playing 4-4-2. Let the full backs mark their men. Give the defenders forward ball options. Wide midfielders for the measured out ball and 2 front men for when it has to be hoofed.
The final point is are we sure Daniel is better. Early days and am not writing him off but his goal against Yeovil aside he is looking to me like the classic utility player. Can play 3 positions but not actually very good at any of them.
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