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Quick reminder of what David Hilton said at the fans forum.
He stated Swann had promised there were no issues with the land when the price was agreed. 3 issues had then come to light on investigation by solicitors.
1. The so called ransom strip had been discovered between the stadium and the training pitch. It was thought probably just an error in the deeds joining 2 parcels of land and would be easily resolved by applying to the Land Registry. Hilton asked Swann (as owner of the land to do this). Hilton’s solicitors view was this was a fairly minor issue but would take 8 to 10 weeks due to Land Registry response times. Swann refused to do this.
2. There was an issue of access at the other side of the stadium granted to the original landowner (a farmer whose name he thought was Jackson). The access was to fields the other side of the railway line. He felt Swann would have known about this and should have told him as it could impact any potetial redevelopment.
3. Swann had told him that existing outline planning permission was still in place for the apartments. The council had told him the permission had lapsed.
Hilton said he had offered to pay Swann £20k per month rent to give Swann time to resolve the issues and that he would pay the agreed purchase price once resolved.
Hilton said Swann refused to do anything and ceased to communicate with Hilton from that point on.
Hilton also explained his plan to personally rent the stadium to the club in the meantime and predicted Swann would probably sue and try to evict the football club. Pretty much what has started to happen in the last 24 hours. I am quite surprised it has come as a shock to anyone – probably the only surprise about it is that it has taken this long.
Hilton seemed to believe Swann would have difficulty in evicting the club at least in the short term. I am sure Swann thinks differently so I guess we will soon find out who is correct.
Wouldn’t it be better if Swanny came back even Deerey is believing his statements now. I always said better the devil you know.
There have been a number of ridiculous posts in the last 24 hours but as usual Awaywego zooms in and takes top spot comfortably.
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I was looking forward to the fixtures as much as ever but must admit to being totally underwhelmed once I saw them.
No disrespect to the NLN teams but it brings it home how far and fast we have fallen.
Sulk over. Let’s get on and win this here league. For the first time in my 60 years of support we are the big cheese instead of being little Scunny. Instead of opposition managers fearing the sack when we beat them it will be Jimmy fearing the worst when we lose a game.
Hope Jimmy and the squad can deal with having a target on their backs.
Are you suggesting our owner has done prison time?
If not then what point are you trying to make?
Perhaps because Humberside don’t seem to give us coverage any more.
Fishing.
Hereford away.
Don’t forget Mussy. Still coaching our keepers to stay on their line.
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Still can’t find any NLN odds out there. Might appear when the fixtures are announced next week.
You can get 10 to 1 on Cods for relegation.
Wish I was a better person but when we lost to Blackpool and Luton at Wembley I was out of there immediately.
Probably had a beer in hand by the time any medals were handed out.
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I would hope their focus would be safety. Nothing to do with them any legal wrangling over ownership or tenancy issues.
Do I hear a faint clutching of straws in the background?
Deery as I suspect you know I was having a light hearted dig at the insider/bystander duo. They may have absolutely valid points but constantly repeating them behind a cloak of anonymity is not really helping anyone. They do also have thinly disguised agendas against Hilton.
Remember when we used to have a bit of a laugh about things on here.
Of course you have valid concerns as do I and I suspect every other Iron fan does. We are set to play in a part time regional football league and have not owned our ground for more than 2 years so we have plenty to worry about.
Our fate lies in the hands of one man although that has been the case for many years – be their surname Wharton, Swann or Hilton.
The current owner will either prove to be smarter than Swann or not. Such a low bar that I am hopeful he is. He will prove to be truthful and well intentioned or not. History suggests the Wharton’s pretty much were and Peter Swann pretty much wasn’t.
Time will tell but not an awful lot we can do about it.
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He is a bit of a gobshite if you compare him to our previous owner over the last 3 years.
Hilton stated at the fans forum he would answer any questions from fans.
Obviously a fan took him at his word the other day (well done him) and Hilton seemed to give fairly transparent answers.
Has anyone with much repeated concerns tried to have a conversation with him?
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What qualifications did Daws, Hill, Cox and McCall have between them?
Didn’t seem to help much. Mind you if the Swann’s picked his players and team then Pep would no doubt struggle.
Hilton said he has secured the new training facilities in Scunthorpe but could not disclose the address or move in until the tenants had been informed and moved out.
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He said at the fans forum the new training ground would be available September or October.
Although he didn’t say this at the forum there are some good facilities at Ilkeston available at a very reasonable rate for the interim period.
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feeling so much better that we will be playing our home games elsewhere thank you mr david
Where would we be playing them without Mr David’s intervention?
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The previous owner and the truth were virtually strangers IB.
There was also (allegedly) best part of £1m of debt to clear before starting on running costs.
Seem to remember Hilton said there were 3 things he had requested to be clarified.
1. The so called ransom strip of unregistered land between ground and training pitch.
2. Right of access on the other side of the ground for a local farmer (Jackson?)
3. Clarification on the expiry (or otherwise) of planning permission on the land still being valid. This was something Hilton said Swann had promised but the local council had suggested was lapsed so would need re-application.Hilton felt only issue 1 would take time due to land registry changes taking 8 to 10 weeks hence he offered £20k per month rental until Swann could clear the issues.
Hilton said Swann refused the request and subsequently refused to communicate with Hilton.
Please note I am reporting what was said to the best of my recollection. Can’t comment on the truth of it or otherwise.
Shame the team Swann supports getting relegated.
Welcome to our world Peter.
2 more relegations and you might be as pissed off as we are.
He does like a bit of serial posting though Mick.
Did AA (or Rene or whatever his name was that week) make the next 45?
I’m thinking more Dave Syers than Ryan Yates!
I’ll take National League version of either. I think is better prospect than Pugh but time will tell.
Probably too early to tell exactly what kind of midfielder he might end up being. I think an athletic box to box midfielder not afraid of a tackle is where he could get to if he continues to work hard. Think Yates but sadly not as good.
I would argue he was at least as effective this season as Hackney was for us last season. Hopefully he will improve a lot once he starts playing with some actual footballers – it’s certainly worked for Hackney.
I’m in.
He actually stated he was employed by Britannia Law as a debt collector.
He did not enjoy the job and felt increasingly uncomfortable with their practices which whilst legal he felt were morally questionable. Left the company after 9 or 10 months if my memory serves me correctly. Also said this was when he was about 25.
He denied knowing any Nottingham crime syndicates and has never been involved in drug dealing or money laundering.
He admitted to having changed his name once (from White to Hilton) for what he said were family reasons and has not gone under any other names.
He stated he is not a property developer, he buys and sells land. He specialises in problematic land either with covenants or waste issues, sorts out the issues then gets planning permission and sells on.
Usually does this as a sole trader but occasionally with partners. He explained his companies without trading histories as companies created to buy specific plots of land but where he was unsuccessful at the auction stage. He has some history of conflict with councils over planning but claimed that was an inevitable factor of the business he is in.
Other than that he cracked 3 or 4 jokes at the former owners expense which obviously were going to be well received with an audience of 200 Iron fans.
Whether you liked or indeed believe his answers he did not duck any questions and actively encouraged them. He also said he was happy to answer questions from Iron fans at any time going forward.
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Never dull for Iron fans these days.
Except on matchdays of course.
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We can but dream IA
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