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Depending what happens with Butterfield and Beeston we need 4 midfielders if they go. 2 for the centre and a wide midfielder/winger each side as Sembie-Ferris and Lewis not yet NL top 7 players from what we have seen.
At least one preferably both new CM’s need creativity as well as athleticism because Shrimpton, Rance and Pugh are workhorse midfielders. Nothing wrong with that if course but creativity is needed at any level.
From my limited knowledge of the level (NLN & NLS playoff finals) it seems the intensity and physicality are pretty much the same as NL but obviously more patchy in terms of footballing capabilities.
One more forward (assuming Wilson goes) and cover at right back for Ogle (hoping he stays) and we should be in good shape. Always assuming we have somewhere to play and house the 4,000 crowds a winning Swann free club would bring.
His lawyers might.
He said last night his personal spend was up to £1.7m
Why does anyone buy a football club?
Very few these days are fans of the clubs they buy. Swann was a Leicester fan I believe. We found out the hard way he didn’t give a monkeys about the club, the town or the fans.
We had a local consortium but they (correctly?) thought the valuation too high.
Time will tell if Hilton’s motivation is more beneficial to the club than was the case with Swann.
He is going to have to drop us a couple of leagues for starters to get close to his predecessors achievements.
The fact is we as supporters have no influence over what happens next no more than we had any influence under Swann or even Wharton.
Might as well chill and see what happens next. It would be nice to stop losing and waving the white flag as we have done most matchdays for the last 5 years.
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a lot doesn’t make sense, if he is willing to pay 20k a month rent he may as well pay Swann up and build the new ground and sell GP off himself
Mick the way I heard that bit is that if Swann agrees to sort out the site issues preventing the sale then Hilton will pay him £20k a month rental for that period.
Of the issues Hilton raised with Swann to be resolved the one regarding the unregistered strip of land is the one that could take some time to complete (I think 2 to 3 months was mentioned).
Hilton clearly stated if Swann resolves the issues that were unknown to Hilton back in January then he will pay the £3.5m
They are probably calling each others bluff so we will probably find out the rights and wrongs of the situation when we know who blinks first.
I think you are right Daz.
My own view is that if the previous owner comes out of it with a bloody nose and a lot less cash then that would be a bonus.
He may have picked a fight with the wrong man here.
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Hilton gave chapter and verse on what Swann has done (and not done) that has caused the issues. He stated the reason for the forum not being streamed or recorded was because he would not then have been able to fully clarify this without possibly giving Swann a lever to use against him.
Of course we will hear a very different story from Swann so it will come down to who you believe or who wins the dispute legally or otherwise.
Given one of the parties record as a bigger liar than Boris or Donald you can probably guess who I am inclined to believe.
Hilton gave a fairly comprehensive response to the rest of the recent hysterical character assassination also.
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Friendlies arranged with Brigg, Winterton, Ilkeston, Gainsborough and York. Plus 2 others that I cant remember.
New ground incoming.
Totally agree Richgy a joy to watch even when the were ripping us a new one at their place.
Better footballing side than any we saw in League 2 the previous season.
I would accept the industrial style of football that the likes of Wrexham and Borehamwood play if it meant us winning a few games but it’s crap for the neutral.
Hope they stick to their principles and do well with it in League 2.
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Not looking for guarantees of EFL football Awaywego. Nothing can be guaranteed and we have had 10 years of bullshit promises.
I do hope though that the club have a plan to have a go though. Happy with one step at a time so a plan on try and win NLN will do for starters.
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No interest whatsoever in 98% of that stuff provided he gives satisfactory (and believable) answers to the 2 questions that matter:
How are you going to return us to the EFL?
What is happening with the ground/site?
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A quick search of his profile shows the first post to be from 2020 with a post or two not complimentary towards Swann.
Stop taking it out on fans because they don’t worship the ground Hilton walks on. Concerns about Hilton can be brushed away as unfounded, no matter what (and some seemingly are), but we can assert other fans are conspiracists based on nothing? That’s no better than Rene’s conspiracies.
8 posts in 3.5 years of Swann 1 of which was mildly critical of him.
35 since Hilton arrived virtually all have been posts that would have had Swann contacting his lawyers had they been about him. I still think my question was valid and fair.
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A quick search of his profile shows the first post to be from 2020 with a post or two not complimentary towards Swann.
Stop taking it out on fans because they don’t worship the ground Hilton walks on. Concerns about Hilton can be brushed away as unfounded, no matter what (and some seemingly are), but we can assert other fans are conspiracists based on nothing? That’s no better than Rene’s conspiracies.
I asked the person a perfectly valid question. Read my post again and there is nothing criticising fans for their opinions of Hilton. Like many people I will make my mind up on what he does for the club. Don’t give a monkeys about the many other agendas doing the rounds on antisocial media.
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Just out of interest iron insider where were you for the 5 years the Swann’s were destroying the football club?
Or have you only become the font of all knowledge since Hilton came on the scene?
Probably just a coincidence you and uninteresting bystander arrived at the same time as Hilton.
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19 players on the books at this stage then.
Jimbob’s misfits (end of contracts):
Ben Richards-Everton
Colin Daniel
Daniel Gallimore
Elliott Whitehouse
George Taft
Jack Moore-Billam
Jordan Hallam
Liam Feeney
Mason O’Malley
Sean Shields.Nothing like bending the facts to suit your narrative.
Look again at the list and you will see Dean (possibly) had a hand in 2 of them being here. The rest were down to Cox, Hill or Swann.
Richards Everton was not the quickest or fittest centre back we have ever signed but he was a big upgrade on Taft who has been sh1te since his loan period ended.
Shields looked to have something to offer but he was given a few opportunities and delivered nothing
Agree Rance has done nothing so far so fair to judge Dean on that choice. The rest of the team had pretty much given up the fight by the time he arrived so let’s see how he performs next season.
Of the players already on a deal for next year only Sembie-Ferris, Chapman and Elliott are (probably) Dean choices. For the rest deals were in place from the Swann era. It is obvious from the OWS announcement that Hilton/Dean would like at least some of those to depart before August. The queue to sign them won’t be a long one.
I don’t think Dean has covered himself in glory in his 17 games but let’s not be blaming him and or Hilton for the debacle they inherited.
Possibly a sign he is not quite the pauper he been accused of being.
Tamworth and South Shields.
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April 29, 2023 at 8:03 pm in reply to: For Pity’s Sake When Is The Very Short Retained List Announced? #261300Agree Les that was one of the poorest midfield performances I have ever witnessed from the Iron.
Sembie-Ferris was comfortably the best of the initial four which tells you all you need to know about Pugh, Shields and Rance. SF at least reached the heady heights of shite. The others didn’t get close to that level.
Elsewhere roasted Leake was on the menu again today.
Shrimpton, Butterfield and Robertson came on and all of a sudden Dorking did not seem to have a midfield after dominating the first hour or so.
That’s 5 seasons now we have come to the end thinking “Thank god that’s over”
I would keep Ogle, Foster, Elliot, Shrimpton, Butterfield and Robertson from today’s showing. Happy to drive the rest home.
Did they deserve getting paid this month?
Your choice Deery but if that kind of nonsense intimidated me I would probably stop reading it.
I don’t want to get into a playground spat over it so by all means have the last word and I promise not to respond.
‘In all my years watching SUFC I have never known fans being told they are club killers by various anonymous accounts and threatened with a slap…’
However you look at it, it’s not good!
Not so long ago a board member called fans morons.
Return for the Swann’s anyone? Worked out so well last time.
Are you suggesting calling fans morons and threatening physical violence are similar?
No but I am suggesting a verified insult to all Iron fans by a board member of the club is significantly more serious than a threat of a slap by some anonymous idiot on social media.
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‘In all my years watching SUFC I have never known fans being told they are club killers by various anonymous accounts and threatened with a slap…’
However you look at it, it’s not good!
Not so long ago a board member called fans morons.
Return for the Swann’s anyone? Worked out so well last time.
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Cox suggested on Humberside on Saturday pre match that at least some of the signings were not Dean’s choices.
It is obvious that neither Dean or Hilton had seen many of them in action simply because most were not playing for their clubs. Hilton admitted on the podcast interview that Thompson was his idea.
Perhaps more interestingly Cox became the first ex Iron manager from the Swann era to confirm our long held suspicions regarding the chairman’s influence on signings and team selection.
Little wonder we are in the sh1t.
Hilton, like all chairman needs to decide whose football opinion he trusts, be that Dean or someone else and let them get on with it.
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I think I could win the National League with a playing budget in excess of £3m.
It is not Hilton’s choice to not take credit cards. It has been forced on the club and several other clubs and is well documented.
Anyone holding off purchasing until the legal confirmation of the ownership change are making a personal choice to disbelieve Hilton’s word. No problem with that but perhaps moaning about your decision having some minor financial consequences hardly seems fair to me.
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Could someone explain to me the difference in Nelson’s system and Dean’s. Both played mainly a nominal 4-3-3 as far as I can see.
Main difference is Nelson had Lavery and Dean didn’t.
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Wrexham v Notts County not on NLTV. It’s on BT Sport. Not a bad call though for Monday afternoon.
Getting beyond embarrassing watching our shower and the glee from arsehole Oldham fans is probably more than I can bear.
£9:50 to stream it was certainly robbery. Even with commentary from the Hairy Bikers.
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I get the stadium tour thing at Wembley, Camp Nou, San Siro etc.
Glanford Park not so much.
How many other tier 6 clubs sustain either a full time restaurant or shop?
Hard though it is we need to start accepting the reality of what has been done to our football club and all of the unpleasant consequences that go with it.
Let’s try not to forget where the responsibility for the demise of the club belongs.
And it’s not David Hilton or Jimmy Dean.
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Did I miss the part of the interview where Hilton said he is moving us from playing somewhere we can pull in 3,000 crowds despite 5 years of shite to somewhere where their own towns team pull in 700?
If Hilton thought he could sustain a National League or higher team at Ilkeston he wouldn’t have tried to buy Bury or SUFC.
Unless of course he is an even bigger idiot than his predecessor. Which is very hard to believe.
It would have been much cheaper to fund Ilkeston a couple of promotions than to buy our club and still have to fund a couple of promotions.
It’s a personal opinion but as a supporter I don’t give a toss where the team train. According to our last half dozen managers we have been great at training but sh1te in matches. I would like like us to become better at the bit I pay to watch. Never been to watch training in my near 60 years of watching the Iron.
For balance the thing that does concern me about Mr Hilton is that (if true) then letting people know they are losing their jobs via the media rather than face to face is an absolute disgrace.
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