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Ironawe wrote:

Important we head into March with a run of form. A must win for me. Keeping pressure on Chester would also set up that home match to be a cracker – potential sell out with all the offers.

agree a must win .. anything else not good enough.

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Cant see Warrington scoring .. they dont do it ofen especially from open play … so going for a 1 or 2 nil win for the Iron…

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Wait, what? So the My Football rumour was true? Getting mixed messages from the video. Did George say they’re quite excited about going forward with it barring some details to sort out but Ian said after that they’ve spoke to someone involved in it’s earlier incarnation but that’s as far as it went? Maybe I misheard. If anyone can clarify it that would be appreciated.

Worryingly there were indeed a couple of contradictory remarks from the 2 owners on the podcast vid and whilst the unity angle was pushed i get the feeling something is not quite right…then bosh new revelations about debt and director loans surface on another SM platform.
Another sh8t storm brewing ????

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Hilton coming back?

That would go down well …. you cannot be serious !!!!! as a famous tennis player used to say

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IMO Butterfield should have been kept at all cost .. how we could do with him now!!

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a more positive side of social media .. the latest ironarmy podcast was excellent with 2 of the clubs owners joining in.

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Carisle Utd raising the bar naming Mark Hughes as new manager.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c87dq0y9p1do

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Whilst many other clubs across the footballing spectrum have signed players either full contracts or loan deals the fact its all quiet at the AAGP brings it home just how financially strapped the club is.. never known a spell of inactivity re signings bit sad really but at least we still have a club and Stu Maw.

Still loosing 65k a month is head shaking after all the progress in the last year plus .. maybe lowering the bar and off loading some of the over paid Hilton era players could be agood idea even at the cost of longer in the NLN

uti

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SODIron wrote:

Transit Van Iron….most of the occupants frequented the Dessert Rat. I had a few good away days in that van!

So did i … also known as THE MAD VAN, Toppo and Squeak Titterton ran it i believe Nuneaton and Shrewsbury awadays to remember… after my time i think it was THE TVI

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maybe a cull …. off load some / most of these high earners and build again with players on realistic wages for this level thus staying in NLN a few more years in this process.

YES or No guys ????

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ironking wrote:

Job done in getting nine points, but struggled all the way to get them. This is not a promotion performing team, though it ought to be!

Chester are top, and they were utter shit when we played them. But alas we were worse under AB and JS’s no-attack policy, let’s keep 11 behind the ball and only go forward in the last 10 minutes.

Just think those 2 points would have put us top!!!!!!

9 points is 9 points but agree this current bunch are NOT a promotion winning side too many 0-0 thrown away points sloppy mistakes and very inconsistent (as are many others to be fair).
My tip for the title before a ball was kicked was Chester and lets not forget earlier on in the season their fans were calling for the manager to be sacked.
Its very tight at the top and wouldnt be surprised to see the likes of Buxton Darlo be right up there end of season.

Some big games coming up Curzon , Kiddy,Chester and Darlo so my Scunny prediction stands firm a low play off place at which point twill be interested to see what the BovD decide re AB n Scoff. Scrapping up by the back door would be ok but we would struggle big time in NL like Boston are currently doing.

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Apollo11 wrote:

No, not a ‘lost’ Bob Dylan song, but a comment on Fans64’s precis of the Trust meeting, attended by the SUFC board:

Very high wage bill,a legacy.

Wage bill less.

7 players taking bulk of current budget.

That suggests to me that there are seven players who will all probably turn down reduced terms after this season (if they’re out of contract). Along with everyone else I suspect some of those names are Fitzsimons, Whitehall, Clunan and Roberts – and I expect them to leave.

Let’s presume we fail to achieve promotion this season…

My first question then is, could we reasonably expect to get promoted the following season without those key men? Wouldn’t we be left with (and adding more of) your Fishburns and so on?

My second question then is, if we do get promoted this season, what significant financial difference will there be to the club’s income, and what knock-on effect will that have to player budget? Will the buzzword still be ‘sustainability’ if we’re in NL and if so will there still, therefore, only be lower terms on the table for the players?

If so, how could we expect to survive up a Division?

I have posted a few times precisely this .. expect to loose most of the Hilton high earners come the end of the season or their contracts, Im surprised Roberts is still here.

Great idea to Keep Fitz at the expense of the club fossil Muzzy , nowt against him hes dodged so many bullets his time has to come.

With this predicted exodus we will either be stuck in NLN much longer or if promoted this season struggle in the NL

Rene Artois wrote:

I have no answers.
I don’t expect to see us return to the EFL in my remaining lifetime – approximately 15 years.

again IMO
3 to 5 years to get out of NLN (sorry cant see it being this season despite current form and standings)

When finally into NL expect another 3 to 5 years just surviving mid lower table possibly even flirting around relegation hopefully building and challenging at the top in year 5 and on wards

So going on that 6 to 12 years in non league before getting back to the EFL.

Things may change regarding how promotion and relegation places are currently decided ie top 2 automatic up and 1 via playoffs to fall in line same as the EFL.

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WonderGoals wrote:

I personally thought Beestin did well in that role. Still think we need another defensive midfielder as Clunan is the only one at the club. Whatever formation we end up playing, we’re going to need one for the sake of balance.

We could recall Shrimpton, but he’s not playing at Spennymoor and Brogan is more effective further up the pitch like Beestin is.

The whole point of Shrimpton n Brogan going out on loan was to get them game time .. in Shrimps case i note hes not getting much if any as on the subs bench which is strange as while their before he played every game and did very well by all accounts.

Not a massive fan of Clunan but hope his injury isnt long term coming to a pivotal part of the season… also hoping Roberts remains fit he is getting clattered “targeted perhaps” quite often

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Deereyme66 wrote:

I see Ian Sharp is also attending the Trust AGM tomorrow.

Something is definitely brewing behind the scenes. I just hope to god it isn’t this My Football fan owned scheme which is going to come to fruition because it sounds terrible.

Agree WGs i get the feeling something is in the air …

I did notice recently the Bovd and CEO are all out n about more on match days , in the DRE and pitch tunnel at the end of games ..nowt wrong with that but they were MIA for quite a while recently.

It will all come out in the wash as my old gran used to say !!

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Hopefully an Iron win and the added bonus of giving Dickman another reason to whinge and moan post match like he did at their place .. proper wuss packet wouldnt wanna be on a desert island with him.

They are pretty potent up front so reckon they will score against our sometimes sloppy defense so a tight 2-1 to Scunny would be my prediction.

Love to see Beck and or Charlton Ubu get a goal.

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Upon reflection i suppose at this level anything over 3000 is pretty dam good.

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Just managed to catch the extended highlights and it looked a decent game especially second half.

Ironarmy and fan reaction vids also oozzzing praise and positivity.

Re Roberts
SHOULD HE STAY OR SHOULD HE GO NOW !!..hang on theres a song in there some where.

Hope he stays but if not CARRY ON REGARDLESS …. hang on ….

UTI

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Iron-awe wrote:

Lowest home league crowd of the season I believe last night, well it’s to be expected with three home games in a row I guess.

Also more or less zero away fans also (17 i think) which is understandable fair trek mid week working day.

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Awaywego wrote:

Michelle made it quite clear that she’s done her bit in her July interview and about has far as she can go and wants more time away from it all, hence the CEO to take up a lot of her work.
Michelle will always have her place in history saving the club.
And if someone else comes in they can never take away from she herself did.

How you can put Ian in there sanfran I don’t know, in one of the dark times he was found wanting and only ended up on Michelle’s coat tales.

Bang on AWG … as you say in previous interviews Michelle stated she had done her bit and needed help , quite possibly this isnt hostile at all and she actually wants her life back .. offering new owners whoever they are and more investment thus a chance to full fill the clubs and fans ambitions.
Cant see Roj wanting to step aside he also has worked tirelessly.
Michelle Harness will forever go down in history as a legend and the person who saved SUFC.

imo no need for the word hostile … a tad premature perhaps.

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Iron-awe wrote:

Both goals were defendable particularly the second but I don’t think the subs were to blame, agree with DM’s synopsis.

Their second was offside … very poor officials by the sound ov it.

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Awaywego wrote:

“Where were you when Banjo scored” Only just trickled in but in it went, got a great reception from all the players, well pleased for him that’s the monkey off his back, now for Uzbekistan to score.

Im guessing Mr Beck is a tad relieved this morning and hopefully confidence now boosted he can net a few more .. Comorn Charlton your turn next !!
Would like to see Rowley n Scales knock one in and we over due a Boyce goal

(i wont mention Clunan scoring as more chance of the tide coming in at Cleggy)

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RoamingBull wrote:

Yeah probably too soon we will be settling for a play off spot.
Just not good enough are we.

YEP just way too inconsistent to get auto promotion .. its only a matter of time until that though has gone and fans are settling for a play off spot.

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CMC wrote:

Jerry getting the personal insults in now, I’ve not laughed so much since Exeter relegated Scum

CMC wrote:

It’s like a car crash over there tonight, you don’t want to look as it’s horrific but you can’t help yourself

Indeed grab yer popcorn …

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Joined the Iron Trust but for numerous reasons i most certainly wouldnt touch this new Unity group with a Cod heads barge pole as im not sure i like or agree with its creators and just how transparent it will be regarding where funds will be used.

IMO its easy .. the new group isnt really needed and appears to be some wannabe individuals route to egomania.

Hacked … yeah right took a while to discover that gem.

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AusIron wrote:

Hi all,
Just wanted to say a quick hello and introduce myself. Been an Iron supporter for 30+ years, from Australia. I wasn’t sure where else to say hi, so please forgive me if this isn’t the right spot.
In the olden days I used to read the classified section of the local paper to go through all the league results.. at best I had to do my own version of the BBC’s ‘Oxford Unites onnnnnneeeee, Scunthorpe United TWO.’
Then pay tv came along, and every couple of years I was able to get up at 2am and watch the Iron play Hull (that was epic) live on telly. Good times.
I have a small shrine to Championship Manager Steve Housham, believe Peter Beagrie had fantastic hair, and that Gary Hooper would have made a better president than Donald Trump.
When Andy Keogh moved to Perth Glory I almost became a Glory supporter, but that made no sense at all. They suck.
Anyway, hi.

Welcome … WE ARE ALL regardless where we are located on planet Earth.

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Awaywego wrote:

Hopefully they’ll get things in order rather than a one man show just doing whatever he pleases, where’s the sense in buying club shop vouchers and kiddies Xmas presents when Kelme and other product manufacturers will cream off most of the money he may say £18,000 has gone to the club but in reality it hasn’t.

I personally don’t like the guy just on his blogs alone he kinda lectures people to fall in line with his views, especially the let’s get behind Hilton one.

Good point .. whilst i will agree Stu Maw has played his heart out for the club re fund raising IMO it all got too full on in yer face and and became an obsession for him including forcing his opinion on others most notably drumming up support for Hilton.
As posted before i much prefer the various SUFC related social media platforms without his various posts for donations , auctions and preaching vids.

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CMC wrote:

Is it worth letting him go for say, £25,000? I don’t think it is unless there’s pressure to reduce the wage bill.

By the right offer i was thinking 100k … 25k Na , alas the BovD and Roberts himself have the final say not fans.

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CMC wrote:

The relaunch not going well on SUFG, is it?

Indeed … just fans asking some important questions is ruffling a few feathers

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Iron-awe wrote:

If we don’t sell he goes for free, big deal not, he didn’t cost us a fee initially and we would save on his high wages. If we are realistic about promotion we keep him but if a club comes in offering silly money then we sell anyway, either way it’s not an issue to get worked up about, players have come and gone for years but the important thing is the club remains, whatever division it operates in. Yes I want promotion but if it’s not this season so be it.

Pretty much how i see it … the club should cash in if the right offer comes in and carry on regardless promotion or not (not sure going up to NL would be all its cracked up to be as things are at the mo) , obviously Roberts leaving now for cash or the end of the season FOC will stir the wrath of some fans but THATS FOOTBALL.

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Apollo11 wrote:

Deereyme66 wrote:

I agree it’s probably a storm in a tea cup but I wouldn’t want to suggest talk of the new group is fizzled out. End of the day, people may have stronger feelings about it and wish to air their views. Some valid questions have been raised and that’s healthy IMO.

The only real valid question is around the money – what’s it for, how is it going to be managed, and who is custodian of it… You start a public group where you’re asking for money and you need clear and careful governance.

Agree when donating to such a group you must have all the info as to exactly where the money raised will be spent .. must be totally transparent throughout the whole setup.

IMO theres only ever a certain capped amount of fans that will donate so i reckon no need for another group especially one starting up with a bad smell attached before a ball is kicked.

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