Scunthorpe United Unity Group

[Deereyme66]

£10 Lifetime Trust membership. £10 Unity Membership. When one of their leaders mentions ‘competition’ in posts it’s pretty obvious a key driver in this formation is to provide competition to the Trust which I don’t think is healthy or needed. Why not just set up the fundraising group without it being a membership organisation with the same fee? Basically, it creates a formal division that may well deepen.

[Apollo11]

I’ve been thinking about this since last night (don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t for long, of course. I had an episode of Traitors to watch, some toenails to cut and some sleep to do).

But, ultimately, I think talk of the Unity group should be fizzled out and they should just be left to get on with it. The current amount of discourse is pointless. It’s unlikely that they’re setting themselves up as serious rivals to the Trust (despite Jerry’s snide comment on the cult page) and it’s highly unlikely that they’re organised enough or even capable of operating at a ‘political’ level like the Trust.

So it’s not really a splinter group, or a disunity division. Essentially, I presume, they’ll be ‘just’ an old fashioned Fan Club, and that’s probably a good thing for those who care about the club but don’t particularly want much of a say in things.

However, as money from fans will be involved, it’s imperative that they’re open and detailed about what they’re intending to do with it.

[TheJuryeffsOut]

Sounds like a storm in a teacup. I had zero interest in Maw after his video performances in worship of Hilton and insults to anyone questioning where Hilton was taking the football club. If he wants to start some sort of new group then fine, go ahead, I am not interested in joining it or taking part in any of its fundraising activities.
I am quite sure it’s existence will be of no consequence to The Iron Trust, an organisation without which Glanford Park would doubtless have already been bulldozed.

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[CMC]

Main thing from last night was fans laying into Waylon Smithers and his sidekick, and not before time!

[Deereyme66]

I agree it’s probably a storm in a tea cup but I wouldn’t want to suggest talk of the new group is fizzled out. End of the day, people may have stronger feelings about it and wish to air their views. Some valid questions have been raised and that’s healthy IMO.

[Apollo11]

Deereyme66 wrote:

I agree it’s probably a storm in a tea cup but I wouldn’t want to suggest talk of the new group is fizzled out. End of the day, people may have stronger feelings about it and wish to air their views. Some valid questions have been raised and that’s healthy IMO.

The only real valid question is around the money – what’s it for, how is it going to be managed, and who is custodian of it… You start a public group where you’re asking for money and you need clear and careful governance.

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Meldrew, TheJuryeffsOut, Awaywego

[Deereyme66]

Absolutely valid questions. But others have been raised about the need for another membership group and why this group can’t fundraise with funds going to the Trust to buy shares which would benefit supporters in the long run.

[Apollo11]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Absolutely valid questions. But others have been raised about the need for another membership group and why this group can’t fundraise with funds going to the Trust to buy shares which would benefit supporters in the long run.

I totally agree, why not go the ‘via the Trust’ route and use any money raised to actually put some power into the hands of fans?

But they don’t want to – and, ultimately, why is that anyone else’s business..?

[ironfromafar]

Apollo11 wrote:

Deereyme66 wrote:

I agree it’s probably a storm in a tea cup but I wouldn’t want to suggest talk of the new group is fizzled out. End of the day, people may have stronger feelings about it and wish to air their views. Some valid questions have been raised and that’s healthy IMO.

The only real valid question is around the money – what’s it for, how is it going to be managed, and who is custodian of it… You start a public group where you’re asking for money and you need clear and careful governance.

Agree when donating to such a group you must have all the info as to exactly where the money raised will be spent .. must be totally transparent throughout the whole setup.

IMO theres only ever a certain capped amount of fans that will donate so i reckon no need for another group especially one starting up with a bad smell attached before a ball is kicked.

[Deereyme66]

Fair enough

[Awaywego]

With you most of the way on this 64 but you must get that chip off your shoulder,
Jerry was not having a dig as you say.
If you can be arsed to go down to the ground for a match you will see the Corner ticket office is now a Danny food outlet selling CRUMBLE hence crumble corner nothing more nothing less.

[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

With you most of the way on this 64 but you must get that chip off your shoulder,
Jerry was not having a dig as you say.
If you can be arsed to go down to the ground for a match you will see the Corner ticket office is now a Danny food outlet selling CRUMBLE hence crumble corner nothing more nothing less.

Bit naive. It’s always been Trust Corner (although first, before that, it was known as Fanzine Corner). I believe that in recent years even the club itself has referred to it as “the ticket window near Trust Corner”.

[64]

I think I got too involved yesterday, reckon I’ve said enough

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Awaywego

[Awaywego]

Hopefully they’ll get things in order rather than a one man show just doing whatever he pleases, where’s the sense in buying club shop vouchers and kiddies Xmas presents when Kelme and other product manufacturers will cream off most of the money he may say £18,000 has gone to the club but in reality it hasn’t.

I personally don’t like the guy just on his blogs alone he kinda lectures people to fall in line with his views, especially the let’s get behind Hilton one.

[Apollo11]

I’ve never met him or had any dealings with him, but I got annoyed when he jumped on the mental health bandwagon around Hilton, seeming to suggest people should lay off and Hilton should be given a pass because he’s suffered with his mental health in the past. Here’s the thing – you can have horrific cancer and still be a total c**t.

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[ironfromafar]

Awaywego wrote:

Hopefully they’ll get things in order rather than a one man show just doing whatever he pleases, where’s the sense in buying club shop vouchers and kiddies Xmas presents when Kelme and other product manufacturers will cream off most of the money he may say £18,000 has gone to the club but in reality it hasn’t.

I personally don’t like the guy just on his blogs alone he kinda lectures people to fall in line with his views, especially the let’s get behind Hilton one.

Good point .. whilst i will agree Stu Maw has played his heart out for the club re fund raising IMO it all got too full on in yer face and and became an obsession for him including forcing his opinion on others most notably drumming up support for Hilton.
As posted before i much prefer the various SUFC related social media platforms without his various posts for donations , auctions and preaching vids.

[Awaywego]

Unless things have changed the away travel is nothing to do with the club, Jerry and Tony Brown took over and negotiated the contract when the club didn’t want it any more and the coach company wouldn’t go through the club anymore.
If that still be the case subsidizing with money that should have gone to the club looks a bit smelly imo.

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[unity iron]

By the looks of Jerrys latest performance on the cult abuse page, it looks like our new, non-voted on Unity Group committee couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery.

This will all end as most of us expect I imagine. With absolute hilarity and indignity. I’m afraid the quality of people who are behind this new splinter group are evidently unable to rise to the challenge. What a sorry state of affairs.

[sufc_not_on_tour]

Couple of points.
I can’t be arsed to go through the thread to see if these points have been asked before.
The Christmas party, am I right in believing that at the last minute Maw stepped in with £500 from the bank account from his fund raising, my question is why was it in his bank account and not in the clubs bank account? as he claimed all funds raised were for the the club.
Secondly, Maw along with his two partners are to restart his fund raising, not for the club but to subsidise away travel.
As a coach holds around 50 supporters, why is he expecting the fan base to subsidise 50 supporters bus fares?
Sounds dodgy to me.

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[Deereyme66]

These are the sort of legitimate questions that shouldn’t be treated with the mockery and disdain displayed by the group leaders on the Facebook Group IMO. Surely lessons were learned from this type of reaction during the Hilton era? I can understand supporters posting remarks like ‘anything but Unity’. PR skills perhaps beneficial?

[Apollo11]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

Maw along with his two partners are to restart his fund raising, not for the club but to subsidise away travel.

Someone must know what this was about? It really didn’t look good when it appeared at the cult page (in the middle of the white heat of Griftgate a couple of weeks back), so I’m sure it must have been explained..?

[Deereyme66]

One good thing to come out of this so far. This earworm. Like 2023 all over again…

[CMC]

Lots of questions being asked, not many answers.

[Deereyme66]

It would help everyone if the group appreciated a certain level of scrutiny comes with raising funds rather than treating it like a ruse to undermine them, particularly as they are making it a big splash with these public announcements about the launch and encouraging supporters to join for a tenner a pop.

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Awaywego

[Awaywego]

Just been reading part of the code of practise for fundraising.

First actual page after the index Highlights in bold black that they should be
Legal
Open
Honest
Respectful
With explanations on each point.
From what I’ve seen up to now a fail on at least 3.

[sufc_not_on_tour]

As the three people who are pushing this Unity Group are associating themselves and the group with Scunthorpe United.
The club should come out with a public statement either associating or disassociating themselves with the group.
The new CEO could perhaps earn his wages and enlighten us all as statements from the three group owners mean nothing to me.

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Awaywego

[NorthWestIron]

Who would pay £10 to a group, whose only current explanation of direction of funds,seems to be children’s Xmas parties.

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BigLeftToe

[Apollo11]

sufc_not_on_tour wrote:

As the three people who are pushing this Unity Group are associating themselves and the group with Scunthorpe United.
The club should come out with a public statement either associating or disassociating themselves with the group.
The new CEO could perhaps earn his wages and enlighten us all as statements from the three group owners mean nothing to me.

I don’t think it’s necessary for the Club to say anything at this point. It’s very clear the Unity group is not an official SUFC organisation, even if the people behind it are well known for fundraising and volunteering.

[Awaywego]

If the club are letting them use the club premises them they are pretty much backing the unity group.
And once properly formed will be an official SUFC organization why wouldn’t they there’s money involved.
The club need someone overseeing the meeting and group to make sure all the i’s and T’s are crossed by the group for the sake of the club.

[ironking]

I strongly suspect the club knows that this group are renegade and by them becoming legitimised allows a certain amount of control, hence club puppets Jerry and Earl being involved.

Michelle has played a blinder in exposing Stuart through praising him and encouraging him, thus tickling that massive, nay enormous ego.8

Hence we all know about him and have looked and explored why he is being lamented above and beyond many others who have helped save and sustain the club, despite him being an Hiltonite the very person whose apparent sole agenda was to destroy the Iron for his own gain.

Stuart has lapped up the adulation and virtually signed autographs among his faithful. The cynical have pounced, and the outing of Stuart regarding an apparent liking for ladies of questionable age is his downfall.

Claiming to have been hacked whilst carrying two parallel accounts won’t really wash.

Here is the crux, as a person who holds enhanced vetting, I cannot be seen to be associated with any person who may be involved with children in a sexual way.

If one was truly ‘hacked’ in this manner there are certain protocols to follow which is a form of protection for the innocent.

Showing someone a bank account statement would not be one of those steps.

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