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Legend singular.Cant people just follow a simple instruction?
Oh, I see! I thought this thread was just for fun.
In that case, please be upstanding for the legend that is… Scunny Bunny!ACG, Russ, Beags, Billy Sharp, that Keegan bloke… and why do we never hear it for goalkeepers? Joe Murphy was a legend!
Joe Keenan / Ian Botham / Tiffany’s nightclub / back alley punch-up edition.
I have noted that anti-vaxxer, covid denialist, chemtrail believing conspiracy theorists tend to sway towards Letby is innocent messaging.
It’s assuredness which can blind to faults.
Can’t agree with the first statement – a quick look on youtube reveals unlikely bedfellows from David Davis to Phil Hammond and of course Letby’s defence lawyer Mike Mansfield QC (and a few others) who think there is new information to consider. Hardly nutters/cranks/conspiracy theorists!
But believing in a blinkered way certainly blinds to faults. That’s the crux of the matter here, and why there’s a reluctance to review the case. I think it applies to the video you posted, too.
Dame Edna is a charlatan. Just look – the sofa, the little dog, the folksy image and twee ornaments – it’s all a contrivance to fool the gullible into thinking she hasn’t an agenda. That alone, should make anyone question her credibility straight away. Ask yourself ‘Why is this woman pretending to be an ordinary suburban housewife while talking about important scientific and legal matters?’
Answer: She’s a crank who’s set herself up as a full-time opinion former/influenza/sorry, influencer, taking a stance on all manner of things and broadcasting it to the world in a bid to get clicks and followers. That cosy suburban look appeals to other suburbanites, who are cynical about or just can’t understand experts. It makes them think that she’s like them – ordinary, but just a bit cleverer.
Why does she do it? Who knows? It’s probably one of the few thrills she gets out of life! Maybe some punters send her coffee money. But, if she was really an expert on anything at all, she wouldn’t be sounding off on all manner of topics, like she does in her other videos. She’d stick to her specialism, keep it professional, and probably do it on a blog or something, from within her own organisation/university/scientific institute.
Thing is Siderite, more people should be aware of how to sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to getting info online. Sadly, they aren’t, and even on here some people like Les and the jonnies know this very well. They exploit it when they have an agenda to push, like with Brexit and getting Jonny into Brussels. “Copy paste this and send it to your Aunt Doris!” Remember that? And guess what, lots of folk did, thinking it was all true. And it worked, even tho’ it was BS!
So, folk should choose their sources more carefully. While the odd-looking Dame might be right on some topics in her video library, she’s not a reliable source of information, particularly on something as specialised as Letby. But hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day, eh?
Sid, to go down that way of thinking (that Letby must be guilty) and stay doggedly locked into it no matter what, is a hinderance when there is new information to consider.
It’s a mindset that denies any evidence which contradicts tightly held beliefs, and shuts out any dissenting voices. It’s what led to Brexit, and the PO, and other cases too. There’s more than a whiff of this to the Letby case.
Unlike the ‘expert’ Dame Edna and her pooch, I don’t know if Letby is innocent or not, but there appears to be an increasing amount of new information which suggests the original decision could be faulty. If that information comes from reputable sources, which it does, I’m prepared to listen to it and think again. We all should.
Someone more knowledgeable?! C’mon Siderite, you mean a video you found by someone you agree with, like the one you posted some time back on Islam. But, if you take a minute to read around online, you’ll see Oliver and dog isn’t even a medical doctor, and broadcasts obsessively on all sorts of stuff.
When this case was first tried, I thought the same as you still do about Letby. Now however, I really don’t know. But it does appear there may be new evidence which hadn’t been previously considered.
A quick look on the WWW reveals Letby is something of a focal point for the culture warriors. Why is this? Why don’t some people want to consider new evidence? Is it because what initially seemed an open and shut case was in fact far, far more complicated, and the outcome may be just the opposite of what everybody was led to believe? A bit like believing the sun goes round the Earth, then being told by some heretics that the opposite is true (and for which scientists were executed).
But when new evidence does come forward, it’s incumbent on all of us to consider it, as with all previous miscarriages. Just ask the B’ham 6. Or Copernicus and co.
“Fictionalized” means characters or events didn’t actually exist or happen. All drama is necessarily like that, to some extent, e.g. did the kid really say those things to his mother, were the PO people pottering in the kitchen when they heard they were about to be arrested, and so on.
But, if the key points are clearly made and drive home important facts, such as the innocence of imprisoned PO workers, or the Birmingham six (who’d be in the ground, never mind prison, if we had the death penalty) it can only be in the public interest.
It will be interesting to see if one on Lucy Letby is forthcoming. The more you hear about her case, the more likely there could have been a miscarriage. Here’s a sensible view of it, particularly the second half.
Like all good drama, it raised talking points, but to get to government policy is mad.
Good dramas can have exactly that kind of impact – raising public awareness leading to demands for change, most recently, Mr Bates v the P.O.
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Brad’s have posted their pie and peas option. I would.
How much?
I hope he’s got an on-board de-fib.
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Cassidystash said: I take exception to being called stupid, I am a member of Densa, have a degree (1st class) in Astrobiology from the university of Ulanbatoor and a Blue Peter badge.
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Looks a bit like Crosby flats. Were you there with your steppe brother, Cass?
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Just believe! Wasn’t that what Brexit was about?
No wonder it appealed to the likes of this poor lost sheep.Trump and Netinyahu – provocative in the extreme and may lead to another assassination attempt.
And I direct you to Jonathan Pie. His vision is much clearer.
So, here’s a Christian-free post.
The old working-class as we knew it, no longer exists. The big industries have shrunk or gone, along with their culture of pubs, clubs and close-knit communities which gave folk a sense of belonging, identity, and a way to make a living.
People have been left decimated and broken, isolated and poor. Parts of the north are like post-invasion Iraq. Their shops are shut, pubs boarded up, drugs and hooligans, gangs and graffiti have taken over. They’ve been abandoned and lack support, either economic or social.
What’s happened? Look in the papers to find out. Open the Sun, Mail, Express… they speak our language, right? But, what do they offer? Not the complicated arguments about the damage done by right wing politics, privatisation, or the unfairness of absurdly wealthy people like the Bezos’s and Gates, Zuckerbergs, Murdochs, Musks and Trumps owning the media and the most powerful country in the world. No, you obviously won’t be reading about inequality and unfairness as the reason why you can’t get a house or a good job, or why the energy companies are ripping you off, or why the crims have taken over your neighbourhood.
Nope, it’s Brussels and the EU! Ooops, done that! Now, it’s the poor old immigrant you should blame! And you know what, even if you’re doing alright, paid for your house, car and live in a nice area, the immigrant will come and take it off you (copyright Daily Mail). Instead, don’t rock the boat, let’s punish those who aren’t responsible for the problems. And yes, it is how Hitler came to power in the 1930s, with slogans about returning to the past, making Germany great again, etc.
The supreme irony is that the very same things Farage and the far right espouses now – dictators, fascism, racism, denial of democracy… are the very same things which this country, Churchill and the great grandfathers of today’s flag-shagging ‘patriots’ fought against in WWII!
Time to wake up. But, tell the truth and you’ll always sleep well.
(If you have been offended by this post, help is available)
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How are the so-called Christians dealing with Trump’s cosying up to Putin and threatening to rape Ukraine? You were warned about him.
February 16, 2025 at 9:32 am in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #299056Re. the Dylan film, no, but will look out for it.
Re. SD, that’s an interesting read, DM. It makes you wonder if the snubs were because they could forsee ‘creative differences’ or if it was personal.
FM (above) and the lyrics – they’re maybe not Dylanesque, but still insightful and fun. My take is that they were written back in 70s when smooth-sounding FM stations were becoming widespread. It seems to be set in a bar/brothel where FM and good music like reggae, blues and Elvis has become just muzak to create a relaxed atmosphere. Nobody’s really listening to it – the ‘party girls’ kicking off their high-heeled sneakers really don’t care what’s on, or if it’s someone else’s favourite song… as long as it plays all night, and as long as the mood is right…. No static = no friction, no aggro with the punters, just a nice smooth encounter, apparently. So, for SD, FM radio has reduced great artists to providers of mere musical decoration, sonic wallpaper; the backdrop to brothel sex. There’s also the sound of uncertainty and foreboding in there, maybe because of what FM could mean for 70s pop – a bit like with AI, autotune etc. today.
What would Dylan say?
February 15, 2025 at 11:20 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #299041No but will. Not a big fan of his bobness either, but an interesting life and immense influence.
Been trying to decipher the lyrics to SD’s ‘FM’ (above). Any suggestions?
February 9, 2025 at 2:11 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #298633Yeah it’s often hard to separate the memory from the music.
The scene it brings to mind is probably why Sussudio appeals (or not!). Same with a lot of Steely Dan stuff. Like this…1 user thanked author for this post.
February 9, 2025 at 9:36 am in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #298617Can’t play my air guitar and lose my driving licence while listening to Bill Nelson – bit too prog/experimental. But an interesting guy, ditto Peart and Geddy Lee too, in Rush.
Now, I’m no Phil Collins fan, but this got me dancing round the fridge recently…. Pubs like this used to exist, where are they now?
February 8, 2025 at 10:35 am in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #298543Nice couple there DM, funnily enough I was listening to Ian Dury yesterday for the first time in about 3 years, then spotted this. Classic stuff and still sounds good.
As for Rush, I always liked this one – pure Led Zep really, but a great all-out rocker. Don’t listen in the car if you’re in a sub-50mph zone!Nice piece on Kevin Keegan and team photo from 1969 on the terraces of OSG, in the centrefold of the latest WSC. Apparently, a 5 figure offer for him was refused by directors, possibly Joan Plowright’s dad.
Would that have been the ‘Captain Fantastic’ album, with its photo of the Aston Arms pub in Rasen, where regular kick-offs inspired Bernie Taupin to write Saturday Night’s Alright…
All formats really, except the phone.
Sometimes connect laptop to hifi for youtube etc. but an adblocker is essential.
Some radio too, but the ads are a turn off!
This site is quite handy if listening on the computer. It gets most stations and there’s no need to register.
https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/radio/englandNiche is best, you’re right NI.
But I think most of us on here go along with the Christian ethic, just not the mumbo jumbo! Here’s a prayer and a plea.Our father who art in heaven,
If you’re there…
Tell me
How can American so-called Christians and Jews
Vote Trump?
Supporting a well proven liar,
Rapist, misogynist, and narcissist.
In fact, all the characteristics
Of an anti social personality disorder (a.k.a. psycho).
Good Lord!
These people have allowed their politics to usurp their religion!
Fox news rules
Over the word of God!
Rupert Murdoch bigger
Than Christ Almighty!
How can these folk enter thy Kingdom,
Even in the age of post-truth?
Christ, old Nick’s fires will burn brightly
Unless, oh Lord,
You deliver us from this
Hypocrisy
Of truly biblical proportions.
Amen.The club will do what the club will do, if we sell Roberts and don’t get promoted the fans will have a choice to make next season.
Given the fashion for AI this year, I put the conundrum to ChatGPT to see its analysis.
Here is a transcript of the ‘conversation’… complete BS or Boardroom Seat?
Gurn said: If Scunthorpe United sell Callum Roberts, who will score the goals?
ChatGPT said: If Scunthorpe United were to sell Roberts, the big question would be who steps up to take on that responsibility. Football clubs often rely on a number of strategies to cope with the loss of a key player, and it could go a few ways:
ChatGPT said: Ah, Roberts has certainly been an important player for Scunthorpe United. If they were to lose him, the team would likely face a significant challenge in replacing his contribution.
Given Roberts’ qualities—his creativity, pace, and goal-scoring ability—Scunthorpe would need to find someone who can fill that creative void and also be clinical in front of goal. In terms of replacements, they might look for someone with similar attributes, like a winger or an attacking midfielder with a knack for scoring, or possibly another forward who can link up play effectively.
Some potential ways they could cope without Roberts include:
1. Shifting to a more team-oriented attacking strategy: If they can’t replace Roberts directly, they might focus on creating opportunities for multiple players to score. This could involve encouraging central midfielders or wide players to chip in more.
2. Promoting from within: If they have any promising younger attackers or wingers in the academy or reserves, this could be a good time to give them a chance. A young player with potential might just step up and make an impact.
3. Tactical adjustments: The manager could also tweak the formation to create more chances for the players who remain. A more attacking setup or more emphasis on set pieces could help keep the goals flowing.
4. Loan or transfer market move: Scunthorpe may look to the loan market or the lower leagues to bring in a player with a good goal-scoring record. Sometimes clubs find hidden gems in lower divisions, especially when they have a solid scouting system.
The loss of Roberts would undoubtedly be a blow, but with the right tactical changes and reinforcements, Scunthorpe could still maintain their goal-scoring threat. Hopefully, they’d also look at how Roberts’ work rate and link-up play contributed to the team’s overall dynamics, not just his individual goals.
Do you think they have anyone in the squad now who could step up and take over that creative responsibility if Roberts does leave?Gurn said: Maybe Danny Whitehall
ChatGPT said: Ah, Danny Whitehall – he could definitely be a player to step up if Callum Roberts were to leave. Whitehall has the potential to be a key figure in attack. He’s typically more of a central striker, but he’s got a good work ethic, physical presence, and the ability to score goals, which could make him a good fit for leading the line if the team needs to find a new focal point in attack.While he may not have the same direct creativity and flair as Roberts, Whitehall can still be a reliable goal-scorer, particularly if he’s given more freedom and service from the midfield. If he can form a strong partnership with the other attackers or midfielders, his physicality and movement could make him a real asset.
If Scunthorpe were to shift their tactics to make the most of Whitehall’s strengths, they might focus on:
1. More direct play: Using Whitehall’s hold-up play and aerial ability to create chances from crosses or through balls. If they can get wingers or full-backs like those in the squad to deliver quality balls into the box, Whitehall could be the one to finish them off.
2. Pressing from the front: If they lose Roberts’ creativity, it might be important for Whitehall to lead the press and force turnovers in dangerous areas. This could allow Scunthorpe to create goals from high up the pitch rather than relying on intricate build-up play.
3. Supporting cast: Players like midfielders and wingers could step up to contribute more goals. If Whitehall plays as the focal point, he may also assist in bringing others into play and creating space for teammates to get into goal-scoring positions.
The key for Whitehall would be for the team to adapt and play to his strengths, and for him to find some consistency in front of goal. If he’s the one to take on a more prominent role, Scunthorpe might be able to maintain a solid attacking threat even without Roberts.
It sounds like you’re hopeful Whitehall could fill the gap if Roberts moves on! Do you think he’s ready for that increased responsibility, or would you be concerned about the pressure being on him?Er… dunno.. Bru?
NI, if your correspondents are religious, do they always send cards which reflect their sentiments, or do they sometimes send pound shop / charity cards, which may be more politically correct / neutral, either because they (the cards, not your pals) are cheap, or maybe because they take into account that you don’t celebrate Xmas religiously??
We should also consider the text therein. If the card has a neutral snowy image or similar, say a fictitious, rustic country scene, is it always the case that the text inside, assuming there is one, is always non-religious?
The final question is this. Are we overthinking this and just a bit pissed?1 user thanked author for this post.
My daughter has voted Republican in the last 3 elections and she is certainly neither thick nor lazy.
Course not, she’s your daughter!
Plenty of others will say exactly the same about their kids whether they voted Farage, Britain First, or raving loony! But it doesn’t mean for a moment that it was a rational political choice.December 17, 2024 at 3:00 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #295656Had enough of feelin’ good? Here’s Lucinda Williams with the antidote….
I think if that were true, the most economically powerful members of the EU would all be wanting out. They aren’t, save a few far right parties who like to punch down and blame everything on immigration.
Heath’s article well summarises the arguments put forward by remain in 2016, which were cheerfully slapped down by ‘leave’ under the banner of ‘take back control’, whatever that meant. All that rubbish spouted on Bru, the banners in farmers’ fields, in the tabloid press, in the Tory party and elsewhere – now see where that collective hysteria has got us, and the EU, for that matter.
As for G-beebies, I know what you mean about devil-may-care delivery of news, the problem is that most of it is just unverified hogwash designed to appeal to unthinking, half-cut couch potatoes.
PS I am sometimes a half-cut couch potato myself, but beebies still doesn’t appeal.
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