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January 17, 2026 at 10:12 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #315455
That album by Bowie and the Spiders from ‘ull is still a cracker, DM.
Here’s a site for anyone interested in the period, organised by former manager Tony Defries, who naturally enough, is never discussed in anything but glowing terms!I put the question to Chatgpt as to whether any clubs had banned the chant. It said:
There have been specific responses by football clubs in the UK to stop or discourage chants about Tommy Robinson, though most are requests and disciplinary actions rather than formal stadium-wide bans on the chant itself. Here’s what’s been reported:
⚽️ Club-level responses
🔹 Ashton United FC (Non-League)
The club issued a strong statement condemning pro-Tommy Robinson chants heard during a match, saying such behaviour “has no place in football or society” and vowed to ban anyone identified as taking part. This reflects a formal disciplinary approach to stop the chants and exclude those responsible.🔹 Luton Town FC (2018)
While not a formal ban, Luton Town’s CEO publicly asked fans to stop singing Tommy Robinson’s name, describing the chants as “hugely disappointing” and urging supporters to leave politics out of matches. This was a clear club-level plea to discourage that chant among their fanbase.🧾 Broader context
• Clubs can and do discipline fans under FA rules if chanting crosses the line into discriminatory or abusive behaviour. The FA emphasises that discriminatory chanting by supporters is a breach of rules, and clubs can be held responsible if they fail to act — which often leads clubs to ban individual supporters rather than ban specific chants by name.• Formal bans on certain chants (like Tommy Robinson) typically aren’t written into stadium regulations specifically by club name — unlike historical cases where particular songs (e.g., “Billy Boys”) were officially prohibited because of sectarian content.
📌 Summary
Club Action Taken Type of Policy
Ashton United FC Condemned chants and warned that participants will be banned. Disciplinary, supporter bansLuton Town FC Publicly urged fans to stop the chants Official request from club management
General FA rules Clubs responsible for preventing discriminatory/abusive chanting Regulatory framework, not chant-specific
So while no top professional club has formally banned “Tommy Robinson chants” in a rulebook phrased that way, clubs have condemned such chants and taken action (including bans on individual supporters) to discourage and penalise them.
And that’s it. The problem is that the racists won’t care about bans and punishments. They don’t have feelings because they’re sub-human!
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PS – I am reliably informed that the lyrics above may be more suited to the song ‘We shall not be moved’ than ‘Rule Britannia’…
C’mon AWG, how would you feel if the stand was full of aggressive young men singing, to the tune of ‘Rule Britannia’, something like:
You old b@stards, just f-off and die,
Just like a dry turd falling in the riv-er-side
Etc.And as they did so, maybe people pointed and looked at you, and laughed, and then the drummer joined in to encourage them.
I expect you wouldn’t feel too good, especially after paying decent money for a nice day out, maybe with the grandkids in tow, who’d start asking you questions about it.
That’s what it’s like for those who feel threatened by Tommy-ten-names, not just those in the stands, but those lads playing for the Iron, ffs. And there’s nothing they can do about it.
But in the spirit of goodwill and balance which forever characterizes our happy crew, here is a truly heartwarming moment amid all the AI stuff of bears, babies, Jagger, etc. which shows there are good people who care, and as AWG’s might say, ‘have grown a pair’.
Happy New Year!
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1167058318873877
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Why do these things happen? I guess when nothing seems to work, some will try anything. Extreme politics, extreme faith, something more personal like extreme drink or drugs, or even checking out forever. They’re all up for grabs.
Now, pass me the bottle. Half a pint of Absinthe will do nicely. Happy winter solstice!
What about Hakeeb?
Currently at Cheltenham.Virgins and wise men in ‘ull??
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This kind of behaviour turns a lot of folk off Farage. Middle England hates extremism. It’s not ‘respectable’. Fights, court cases, general delinquency and idiocy will likely keep Reform away from any real power.
The UK saved the Hyacinth Bucket tendency. The ignominy!
Not if you apply some critical thinking.
“Flags not patriotic enough from certain angles”
“Gravity remains stubbornly globalist”Priceless! Qualifies for Private Eye’s ‘Funny Old World”.
Someone had it right when they called this an age of golden stupidity. It sometimes seems like the whole country is either in psychotherapy or needs it.
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December 13, 2025 at 1:20 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #314246Something nice and cheerful – see the Ladies’ other renditions, too.
And here’s an example!
Bestie allegedly scored at half time!
Memes like this are currently doing the rounds on Twitter, Tiktok etc.
They are toxic – they yoke together a common wish to see experts and sharp opinions on a football panel, but imply that expertise is not compatible with being lesbian or black (coz diversity is the enemy, along with ‘woke’).
As for those with a disability, how often do they appear? Alex Brooker, Adam Hills? Can’t say I’ve ever seen them on MoTD, but it would probably be more entertaining than the current snorefest if they were.
Clough Best and Greaves might have made entertaining panelists, but this is a dog whistle from the far right as ridiculous and as stupid as Brexit. No wonder the jonnies likes it.
All the best to him. It would be nice if the fans sung his name to show support, even if it is a small gesture.
How do you pronounce it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Soo
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Hmmm… I wonder why non-football isn’t as busy as it used to be.
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So you believe there were talking animals. And there was a global flood, and all the species could get on the ark without flying off, or fighting or sinking it?
And what freedoms are you worried about losing, Bill? You seem very concerned, but haven’t mentioned one!
Have you got an answer Bill, to the challenge posed by knowledge of the planets and evolution?
And as for the OP, exactly what freedom are you worried about losing?As if the Sun conundrum weren’t enough, we now know Adam and Eve had a family tree going back millions of years!
The bible needs a rewrite.‘The totalitarian,Marxist ideological state’
What planet are you on?
Probably one of the ones God created on the fourth day, along with the Sun, the Moon and the stars.
Although how four days had passed when there was no Sun is a mystery!
Yeah. And what was the earth revolving around if there was no Sun, eh?
In the Christian world, it’s God’s will, BPG. God must be a communist.
What’s for sure, is that it’s another tragic event in American history. In a cruel irony, Kirk had previously said that a few fatal shootings were fine in order to preserve the right to bear arms. His final word was ‘violence’. A man reaps what he sows, eh Bill? (Galations 6.7)
But, how could the shot be so accurate from about 130m away? Divine providence? No, but here’s an alt. theory…
Maybe there were two shooters, who hatched a plan. One was on the roof, and would fire shots to make the crowd turn round to see what was happening. The other would be close to Kirk, and open fire when the crowd looked round. His gun was disguised as an old-school 35mm movie camera, so nobody would notice beforehand. But, for whatever reason, at the chosen moment roof man didn’t fire, while the other guy did. Roof man then ran away.
Who did it and why? Images suggest roof man was neither a transvestite nor a black or brown person, which will befuddle Trump supporters. Instead, maybe it was a white boy coming from the far, far, outta sight right, who thought Kirk was actually too lazy and moderate, chatting to students when he should be acting more directly to rid the world of libtard filth. So he / they decided to do something. And the rest is history.
Keeper Pym did well and gave his back line confidence. We need someone like him. Good keepers make big differences.
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Bill, there is no doubting that smuggling people into the country by boat is a problem. It’s dangerous and people frequently die. If they arrive safely, some work illegally and are exploited by unscrupulous employers keen to hire cheap and desperate labour. Others resort to rough sleeping, fed up with hostel conditions. And over 50% were refused asylum in 24/25.
There’s no doubting that it’s a big social problem which needs a solution. But the issues most folk have day to day are quite different. Small boats did not make the energy companies jack up their bills. Nor did they force Tesco to rip you off every time you step through the door. And I don’t believe they have anything to do with the crisis in the NHS, particularly as most are young and fit. Nor do they affect the shortage of housing, given they can’t get mortgages and don’t occupy council houses.
It’s clear that you’re being encouraged to think that everything bad about the country at present is due to small boats, and here’s superman Farage prepared to put a stop to it, and immediately deliver us from evil. But he’s neither a saviour, nor a very naughty boy. He’s just an opportunist out to stir up trouble and gain power by any means he can. People like him are what our grandfathers fought against in two world wars. Beware.
People fly flags for different reasons. I regularly have a flag featuring Mickey Mouse in the colours of the lgbtq+ rainbow fluttering high above my chimney pot!
Currently, some are ‘loving’ their flags because it signals to others that they have grievances. Many of those grievances are legitimate. People care about how much money they have in their pockets to pay the ever-escalating food and utility bills. And the state of the NHS is another worry – how long for a doctor’s appointment / operation, etc.
Everything is in such a mess. For the past 14 years the majority of media organisations and the bold campaigns – social and otherwise – of their often tax-exiled owners and journos told us to vote for Cameron/May/Johnson and Truss. And on top of that, to go out and vote for Brexit because the EU was the problem. Now, will these people U-turn and admit they made a series of catastrophic errors of judgment? Course they won’t! So they have to find somebody/something else to blame.
Step forward the migrant. It’s the kids in dinghies and grotty hotels who are the ones getting away with it, and making our lives a misery. Here we are, patriotic little Brits (look, you can see our flags!), being ignored, while they’re in 5* hotels, in the lap of luxury. Never mind that the Tories stopped legal routes and created a backlog of applications, so the kids need to be put somewhere while they’re processed, or that the ‘hotels’ are overcrowded shtholes.
But really. As if this was ‘the problem’. As if this were the reason your bills have gone up, or you’re waiting for your operation, which in all probability, will be done by a migrant doctor, while you’re cared for by a migrant nurse.
When times are tough, the right is worried that people might get angry and want to change society. People might stand up and rebel, breaking not just their contract with society to be peaceful and law-abiding, but perhaps breaking the law, and shop windows too, and maybe even voting for a radical party of the left.
So, they get people to look elsewhere, and the simplest of solutions is to blame people who aren’t like us. The masses always respond to that. We’ve seen it before, from the Jews to the New Age Travellers. Farage know this well, and has seized the moment to jump on the bandwaggon of opportunism, in a bid to whip up the mob for his own political fame and fortune.
The religious ‘fraternity’ like it too. The idea that it’s not politics but those of a different religion who are to blame for our contemporary woes is always a favourite. Remember pre-Brexit, how Les and the Jonathans were putting it about that 50,000 Turks were about to come?
But really, flags, who needs ‘em? Performative patriotism in your own front garden is so un-British.
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One thing missing from BS’s GPT-like assessment, and that’s luck.
Listen from 3.20’ on how Orwell saw this coming, not on social media, but in the cinema.
Making fun of those exploited often to their deaths by gangs and conmen might be understandable in the unintelligent or mildly autistic, but IA – see Neil Young’s Southern Man!
A keeper costing 2x isn’t twice as good as a keeper costing x. There’s a law of diminishing returns. A keeper costing 2x or 3x might only be marginally better. But he might have more years left, be less injury prone, have league experience and played in good teams.
Full disclosure: I asked GPT to clarify. Here’s what it said.
The market value of a goalkeeper in football is influenced by a mix of performance-based, contractual, club-related, and external market factors. Here’s a breakdown of the key influences:
________________________________________1. Performance and Ability
• Shot-stopping ability: Consistent saves, especially in high-pressure moments.
• Clean sheets: A high number signals strong performance.
• Distribution: Passing accuracy and ability to play out from the back are highly valued in modern football.
• Command of area: Aerial presence, catching/punching crosses, and organizing the defense.
• Penalty-saving record: Adds to perceived clutch ability.
• Mistake frequency: Errors leading to goals negatively impact value.
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2. Age and Potential
• Prime age: Keepers peak later than outfield players (often 28–35). Younger goalkeepers with strong potential fetch high values due to longevity.
• Experience vs. potential: Veterans bring consistency, while younger keepers bring resale value.
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3. Contract Situation
• Contract length: Longer contracts = higher value (club has more negotiating power).
• Release clauses: If present, they cap value.
• Wage demands: High wages can deter buyers, lowering market value.
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4. Club and League Factors
• Current club stature: A keeper at a top-tier club often has a higher baseline value.
• League visibility: Goalkeepers in top 5 European leagues are generally valued higher.
• European competition exposure: Champions League/Europa League experience boosts reputation.
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5. Reputation and Intangibles
• International appearances: Regular call-ups and performance in major tournaments increase value.
• Leadership: Captains or vocal organizers are highly prized.
• Injury record: Frequent injuries can reduce value sharply.
• Marketability: Personality, fan appeal, and sponsorship potential can play a minor role.
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6. Transfer Market Trends
• Demand for top keepers: If multiple top clubs are seeking a keeper, prices rise.
• Scarcity: Fewer elite goalkeepers compared to outfield players means top keepers can command premiums.
• Recent comparable transfers: Prices of similar players (e.g., Alisson, Kepa, Ramsdale) set benchmarks.
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If you’re evaluating a specific goalkeeper’s market value or comparing two keepers, I can break it down using this framework. Just let me know!END
Could this be the end of Bru as we know it????
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