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Club Stooges (as many as we can find) with approved questions
Christ on a bike, the guy cannot win!!! He must really be wondering what he has walked into here with some of you lot!
That’s a bit rich from a poster who frequently reminds everyone that he had Swann’s number ‘from day one’. So when others respond critically to Hilton you’re all over them? Do me a favour.
That was based on evidence of Trinity supporters who told us what Swann was like, also anyone with a brain cell could see the way we were throwing money around was only going to end in disaster!
As for Hilton, yes I’m willing to give him the benefit of doubt and time to sort out the mess Swann left behind until he does something to change my opinion, that’s all I can do, lets not forget, Swann took a club over in a far better position to what Hilton did.
Meant to reply to this yesterday. You mention ‘based on Trinity supporters who told us what Swann was like’. My opinion is based on empirical evidence and information from a work colleague closely connected with the long running Bury saga, and a few people with closer connections to the club than I. I find this frequent tarring of others with the same brush, by sections of our supporters, as ‘keyboard warriors’ and accusations of basing their opinions on gossip on social media, tiresome and unconstructive, but it justifies a response. I’m sure some are basing their opinions mainly on social media content. Personally, I’m not.
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‘Why are posters like you trotting this crap out??? NOBODY has said anyone has to be eternally grateful or hail Mr Hilton for saving our club. From the posts I have read all the sensible people are saying is lets wait and see.’
Àgain with the insults. There are instances all over social media, including on here, where anyone criticicising or sceptical of Hilton have been met with continual ‘be grateful’ responses, Churchillian at times, rather than a rational discussion. Literally shouted down, by posters, often using the caps lock, and thanked, liked and derided by others. The conspiracy theories have gone too far, but so have those who have shut down sensible discussion. So spare me the similar ‘trotting this crap out’ line, headmaster style rhetoric. Thanks.
I have a hunch that an excuse is being formed, or has been forming for a while now. Just my opinion.
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I don’t think a section of supporters can handle that just maybe some people, very possibly connected to the club, based on previous pointers, are privy to much more information than they are. The reactions are almost religious fervour and child like, as though they’re being told ‘God doesn’t exist and neither does Santa Claus’. Don’t have a problem with it myself. If they know more, so what? Why shouldn’t they let what they can out the bag?
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Dean aswell; name one quality you’ve seen in him to be a suitable manager? I don’t include ingratiating yourself with supporters, when you see fit, and being ‘one of the lads’ qualities I’d look for.
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In the background to all this is why any property developer / business person would take over a struggling football club they have no affinity with in the first place. If ànyone thinks a person would do that for philanthropic reasons, then I question their reasoning. Just my opinion, but if it’s not to make a personal profit from it, why do it? How does making a club ‘sustainable’ tally with making a profit? I don’t understand the logic. What am I missing? Surely anyone taking over a club sees a way of making a profit at some point. That’s fine by me, but don’t see why I or any other supporters should be mithered in to being eternally grateful.
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‘Ferrites post is just as anti Hilton as many others.’
You’ve clearly either not seen many others then that are far more anti-Hilton, or simply got that wrong. I suspect the latter, though I’m not sure you’ve seen a number of posts before they’ve disappeared, because if you had, you’d see Ferrte’s post is far more balanced.
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On another thread, Ferrite posted this yesterday, which I think is a more sensible post as opposed to either Pro or anti Hilton stances and broad brush conspiracy theory claims, though of course there has been some unsubstantiated claims, on both sides:
‘I think a healthy dose of scepticism is a pre-requisite for any football fan.
Obviously settling the tax debt was important but, otherwise, what positive signs have you seen since Hilton’s takeover?
Because I would point out the following:
– Proposing to move the club to Ilkeston – on non-matchdays
– Proposing to shut down the academy before Tony Daws explained the situation
– Appointing Jimmy Dean & the scatter-gun transfer policyIf we hadn’t had the Swann era, do you reckon you would be cutting him less slack?’.
Before anyone declares they’re not interested in this or have a different opinion, fine, maybe this isn’t for you, no need to declare it.
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The only rehashing in this thread is from Hilton acolytes basically telling critics to shut up. ‘Hey ho carry on’? Yeah, as long as you don’t say a bad word about the saviour eh? Some of the abuse and insults posters have received on here for just airing opinion about Hilton has been shameful tbh. So I make no apologies for posting my views to the latest round of attempted silencing and derision.
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