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How could a quick profit have ever been made from the state we was/are in?

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Curzon Ashton pay on the day. No segregation.

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Awaywego

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I don’t think that’s the case, Jury. I stand to be corrected, but doesn’t the Community asset tag only give interested parties 6 weeks to declare an interest in tabling a bid. They then get up 6 months to make an offer, if they declare an interest. However, that will only be triggered if Swann decides to sell to a third party.

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TheJuryeffsOut

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Anyone know if the bars underneath the side stands can be made operational relatively quickly? Surely that would alleviate some pressure.

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Always been the same. It’s hard to spend your money at GP as the facilities are poor and also poorly managed.

Hilton did identify this at the fans forum, he even said we lost money on the Oldham such was the lack of revenue from secondary income at GP.

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What formation did he go with, Les?

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Agreed. Good little venue to watch a game and the facilities were excellent. The pitch must be one of the best artificial surfaces around.

It’s embarrassing that both Winterton and Ilkeston have better clubhouses than the iron bar.

Good performance on the pitch too- looked more comfortable playing 4-2-3-1; Whitehall, Denton and Scales impressing

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Awaywego, ironfromafar, MK Iron

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2,100 at brigg
1,600 at winterton
Exec boxes sold out for the year
450 Tamworth tickets sold in an hour.

Considering everything that’s going on- Absolutely class Iron fans

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Sharp_Shooter24, open hearth iron, MK Iron, Awaywego

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Christ, you guys have had it rough. I remember the Reynolds arena when that was built back in the early 00’s. What a white elephant that turned out to be

How are you doing with funding the new ground ? I’ve just had a look at Blackwell Meadows and that is nowhere near adequate.

It’s a shame the Darlo game is a Tuesday, you were the only club I’d have expected to bring 1000+ this year.

Enjoy it anyway, Fingers crossed both our fortunes can be reversed at some point in the near future

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I remember the 7-1 game, Barry conlan sat behind us after his sending off- he was livid.

Always saw Darlington to a similar stature as ourselves; what’s the reason they haven’t been able to progress from NLN as surely you have the supporter base for a crack at the EFL?

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Ferrite

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I don’t need to expand. They are points raised by Hilton that are now in the public forum and given as explanations to why the deal has been delayed.

If you are looking at the situation as a whole then it’s important to include both sides

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For balance: you are omitting Hilton’s claim on the ransom strip, the land valuation difference, the planning permission expiration and alleged farmers access issues.

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lesgeo, MosbyCumner, Dawson

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I’ll Probably be there too late for a tour but will be in the clubhouse for a pint beforehand.

Would expect a healthy following of iron fans for the game, lots like me curious to see the facilities and what Hilton left behind.

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Is there a clubhouse at the ground, Awayswego?

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Richgy wrote:

What do you think will happen Cliff? you have always come over as quite balanced so would be interested in your view on it all.

No idea bud. Total guesswork from most of us now. I’d be interested to know how IB thinks this will play out as he seems more educated around these matters.

That Crazy New Yorker wrote:

This would only apply it Swann were trying to sell the stadium to somebody that didn’t own the club. Hilton owns the club, so it’s irrelevant.

If Swann wins the case and tries to sell the ground to some unrelated developer, then the community asset clause will kick in and he’ll have to offer to sell it to the community.

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If I was buying land and property I wouldn’t buy if a strip of unregistered land was dividing it into two. Surely it is Swann’s responsibility to register it?

Curious At what valuation would the Iron trust have to offer for it to be accepted? And who adjudicates on it?

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The unregistered land shouldn’t be a major issue to resolve. I can’t recall the piece of legislation but isn’t there a time period for the original owner to make claim on the land before it will revert to the claimant?

It appears the biggest stumbling block is that Hilton has had the land valued at half of what Swann wants and also had the land sold to him on the premise of planning permission being granted for the apartments.

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Fitzsimmons

Barrows
Koughan
Evans
Kelly

Roberts
Clunan
Scales
Butterfield

Elliot
Whitehall

Not going to get too over excited like a few but it wasn’t a good watch. We struggled to put passages of play together and it became reminiscent of years gone by where we went through the motions.

Winterton didn’t sit back either and had a few chances, a number of players impressed including a 40 year + Lee Ridley who dominated centre back

The main problem tonight is the optics don’t look great. We are club that desperately needs some confidence and starting this season well is crucial. Dean doesn’t need extra pressure on himself and the players, and all tonight has done has increased that for the team.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

I’d also add hearing from him via occasional interviews with professional independent journalists Cliff.

Agreed.

With other owners, I’ve seen Darragh MacAnthony lose his rag a few times on social media, Andy Holt seems to use it more so to have a dig at the local council. Grimsby’s chairman comes across very well, although that has coincided with an upturn on the pitch.

It looks like Hilton was mingling with supporters at Brigg today- which is a good sign. I hope he can take heart that after the recent chaos 2,000 turned up today for a pre season friendly – another encouraging sign.

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Was always going to be a disaster.

Might be old fashioned but the only time I want to hear from an owner is through an official statement online.

Hopefully coming off there and now with a board to help, we can start working through our problems in a more professional manner.

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MK Iron, Awaywego, , Northumbiron, Siderite

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The news of 2 director appointments seems to have got lost in the chaos.

Michelle Harness and Keith Waters.

Hopefully they can provide some experience to steady the ship and reach and a solution with Swann over the land

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Absolutely crucial we have a place to independently debate all things SUFC, especially in the absence of a competent Trust or supporters group.

I hope the last 24 hours Do not deter Matt to continue running the site, I know I’d have packed my bags a long time ago rather than take the unnecessary flak.

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Hopefully there’s a few in that Facebook group hanging their heads in shame after reading that.

This is exactly what we have been fearful of.

If Swann and Hilton are reading this, I urge you both to find a resolution.

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, Siderite

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You can still support the club and the chairman but question decisions that are being made.

No problem with him admitting he underestimated the task at hand as that’s been evident for some time now, bringing board members into the fold is a good move- I questioned whether there would be financial input- a reasonable question.

Not impressed with the attack on Matt or this forum; most of the posts have been respectful, if he is getting annoyed at the same questions being asked then it’s Time for Hilton to grow a thicker skin. There will be more challenging times ahead and unfortunately criticism goes with the territory.

My main concern is the ground; if we can reach an agreement with Swann or have firm dates for a new ground to be built, then these concerns will subside. Once a football club loses a stadium then it leaves itself vulnerable as we have found out. We must reach some sort of conclusion.

In the meantime, I’ll continue attending games, encouraging others to do the same and support the club financially in any way I can and as i have always done. I’ll also be looking forward to the new season as much as anyone else and can’t wait to see how the side perform.

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I have gave him the benefit of the doubt with the situation he inherited from Swann, also appreciative of the fact he has saved the club by clearing outstanding tax debts and paying the wages when there was nothing left.

But there are worrying signs that’s cannot be ignored:

Why are creditors still owed money when we are continuously signing players?

Are the new directors required to invest and if so, what has changed to make this happen?

Are 1899 members getting their money back?

Most importantly, what is going on with Glanford park? A new ground won’t be arriving in 2 years and a groundshare will send the club under. At the moment it seems we are relying on goodwill from Swann or the lengthy legal process it takes to evict a tenant from a commercial premises. Even if we managed to somehow remain there for 12 months we will eventually be getting kicked out.

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Interested Bystander, Ferrite, Deereyme66, Siderite

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Can’t fault the matchday prices- if we are doing well you’d expect a 4K average.

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WonderGoals wrote:

You’re nuts. We’re in for another striker regardless of what you think. Why we would get rid of Elliot I’ve no idea. I can’t see that happening but there you go.

Other seasons people have been worrying about lack of squad depth and now the same lot are worried now about having too much.

Is there a happy medium ?

Yeh, there is. 2 players for every position and a couple of young lads spare. If you face an injury/suspension crisis then utilise the loan market. We managed it for years

Don’t know where this concept has come from we need 30 players on the books- especially non league

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Isn’t there a 250k shortfall this year in funding and 500k next year ?

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Would be a terrific signing for NLN; for whatever reason he seemed to hit it off here where he has failed elsewhere

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Shame, however I can’t see how the academy can run on its own until/if we return to the EFL

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Will they be required to invest ?

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