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Nice to see you lads getting stuck in early lol… “Morons”

That’s not necessary, imho.

Personally I’m not “getting stuck in”. I’m only offering the same opinion that I would have offered whatever circumstance and whatever his position. That could have been bloke on the terrace, local journalist, catering manager, programme seller, Director, ball-fetcher or whatever. I’d still say that I thought he was in it for his own ego and profile. That opinion is based on observation, not plucked out of thin air for the sake of “getting stuck in”.

I’m completely prepared to be wrong, to be proved otherwise… But when you stand back and look at it, his main thing seems to be little more than elevating himself and inserting himself in things, and absolutely making sure he’s visible and perceived as a figurehead (eg. last night’s photo in the hospital with Jimmy Dean). That’s ego.

This year, he hasn’t really done anything else other than browbeat people to support Hilton. I don’t understand why people think he’s a saint, or would be a good bet for running the club.

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Siderite wrote:

At the very least Elliott should make some serious apologies if he wants to get involved with the board room ever again. There will be anger and disgruntlement from some quarters without it, and with justification after his social media comments.

I also think Apollo is right in that he doesn’t have the money to help sustain the club.

Yes, I agree with that as well. To be honest, I’m not even sure what he could offer the club anyway, at that level?

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WonderGoals wrote:

Jason Herbert needs binning off for starters. I saw the video of him throwing Aiden Mccartney’s phone and then wonders why he was pissed off.

I’d rather it all wasn’t constantly raked over though in all fairness. I’d rather get everybody united.

The phone thing is reason enough for him to get banned forever, imho.

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64 wrote:

Nobody at all who has sided with Hilton against fans should ever be allowed near the boardroom or terraces, the disgusting abuse aimed at some of my/our friends and others on here and other platforms thanks to their dog whistles, using their elevated position amongst fans is in my opinion the worst thing to come out of this short Hilton era

My guess is you’re referring to the potential of Simon taking over? If so, I’d have to say I agree. It’s not something I’d want, after the way things have gone in the last several months. Browbeating people to support Hilton.

I’ve always thought he was playing politics to elevate his position – right from his early days when he appeared out of nowhere and was suddenly everywhere, courting popularity. Not sure he’s got any money anyway – looked to me like Sharp was useful to him at the right time.

The ambulance chasing photo on Twitter tonight (him with a hospital bed bound JD) kind of says it all, for me, and was the end of it as far as any benefit of the doubt is concerned. It felt like a cynical political campaign manoeuvre. Don’t trust him, I’m afraid.

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MK Iron wrote:

Interesting that both blame the fans of the club for their own failings.

They’re both about 5’6″ aren’t they?

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Iron-awe wrote:

Apollo 11 please don’t do this, if you know something then give, if not then please keep quiet, speculation will lead to more division eventually.

I’m not doing anything, I promise you. I just mean that you can’t please all of the people all of the time. Whatever happens is going to displease some as much as it pleases others.

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Iron-awe

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The guy is clearly not very articulate in front of the cameras and doesn’t like interviews…

I think he’s been a lot better this season than last season (maybe he has taken a bit of media training in the summer?) – but he can still be frustrating to listen to.

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Jon B

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I would be having a chat with Keith Waters regarding his suitability for that figurehead role given his experience.

It requires a massive investment of time, and a really good grip of the club’s situation – and that’s going to put already busy people off.

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Interested Bystander wrote:

Latest podcast featuring Scunthorpe

Not really anything new, just an update on the current situation. But, once again, a journalist making it clear that he is choosing his words very carefully. What a state this club is in.

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Siderite wrote:

There are rumblings of something good happening

Personally I think the ‘something good’ might prove to be just as divisive as Hilton.

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cassidystash wrote:

This could be an opportunity for Nic Dakin to take the lead and regain his MP seat. It would be more effective than any manifesto promises or door knocking I reckon and secure legendary status amongst the population of Scunthorpe.

I think he’s more invested in the good of the club than Holly Mumble-Bumble, though she has made the appropriate political squeak during the last few days. Not sure it means anything. Like when she tried to insert herself as the intermediary between Swann and Hilton, right at the start of this shitshow.

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64 wrote:

I think we now need a lead from a supporters organisation ,just a vague outline as to what discussion are taking place, It’s clear there’s alll sorts of ideas flying around, .We now need a bit of direction

I agree, it needs absolute clarity, this – and everyone uniting behind one organisation. What the situation really does not need is well-meaning do-gooders all thinking they have the right idea, and contacting people, celebrities, agencies, organisations, businesses independently of ‘the group effort’.

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I think this is a noble idea, but I don’t think you can get this funding if your organisation is limited by shares. Also, these things take a long time to come to fruition – and time is something Scunthorpe United FC really does not have.

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Dragoniron

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Calling people sp****cs isn’t “woking hard”.

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Lottery funding should purchase it and donate it to a SUFC CC (community club).

There might be some mileage in this idea.

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Awaywego wrote:

I hope there going to turn up to the game tomorrow, who’ll stop them entering the ground it’s not a police matter.

I agree with this. Who will actually enforce the ban? Sherbert?

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Doesn’t have to be given to the club does it? Direct donations to staff and players could be made, I would hope.

This is the way, surely. Absolutely under no circumstances should it be given to the club itself.

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Siderite wrote:

I am all for unity between fans, but Herbert has utterly debased himself. If we are to have a phoenix club he should be kept a long way from it or we will get division.

Exiled to Ilkeston, perhaps.

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There will be a lot more mental health issues in the town when the club folds.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

He’s not living rent free in my head. However, he has smeared this forum and brought the club into disrupte, IMO, so it’s important that I have a handle on what he’s posting. It’s also important to see what supporters outside of ‘his gang’ are posting on there, and anything that further stains the image of the club, I have no qualms sharing so that others are aware, particularly those that don’t visit that site. What happens on there kind of does matter a toss IMO. But each to their own.

I agree with this. It really does matter. He’s highly complicit in debasing the club and bringing it into disrepute – and the fanbase into disrepair. A divisive and dangerous character.

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North Lincolnshire Irons, Siderite

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What’s the score with this company coming in referred to in the club statement? Am I right in thinking Hilton is choosing and appointing them? I know someone’s going to be opening the door to the cellar but who’s it going to be?

That’s actually a really interesting point. You’d hope that whichever company comes in is ‘independently appointed’ by the remaining Directors, rather than risk the possibility of a company either closely associated with Wham (or obscurely connected to him) coming in at his beckoning. I’m afraid that under the circumstances and after months of gaslighting would not trust that one iota.

You’d hope that at this point, the stage we’re at, Wham actually has zero to do with the club in anything other than name(s).

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Iron-awe wrote:

Club goes bang end of story, no games played.

This could be coming sooner than people think, imho. Days not weeks? The Buxton game is potentially our last at GP or otherwise.

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Did they ever exist?

It would be, at this point, good to hear a statement from Peter Swann relating his side of his dealings with Mr Hilton. We got the one earlier in the year but I think another is crucial at this point.

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Finding somebody Swann respects could be the most difficult task.

To appeal to Swann’s better nature will take a concerted effort by a multi-agency party, imho. Iron Trust, Council Leaders, MP, Ian Botham (?) etc.

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would the price for that be higher or lower than the famous £3m? Given the work involved in demolishing the stadium, preparing the land, all the planning, etc.?

The cost of demolition etc would be accounted for, and I imagine there would be a ‘demolition discount’ built in to any sale – but the land package value without the club there is significantly higher.

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… what value does the ground really have? I would imagine its redevelopment value is less than its value for a going concern football club?

None. The only value is to SUFC. Safe to assume that the stadium will be worthless and redundant when the club goes bust (soon). The redevelopment value of the land GP is on is far higher without it there, and that is the key thing. Swann or whoever buys the whole land package will see that it is razed.

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TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

Hilton has debased it using Herbert as a mouthpiece.

I couldn’t agree more. But he’s also done plenty of damage of his own.

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IronIronIron

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Herbert… talking about ‘shitting through Swann’s letterbox every other Saturday’.

The guy has debased the club with his panto.

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Dragoniron wrote:

Isn’t there a phrase about fraudsters not changing their spots, or something similar?

I think you mean the one about leopards not paying their bills.

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Dragoniron

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The club statement confirmed that the consortium has recently passed on buying.

It is over, and the club is cooked.

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