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To be fair Michelle’s story about Butler’s contract doesn’t really add up, surely if the chairman offers you the managers job you don’t just take it without one especially as it was during close season when he would have looked for something else without that certainty.
Nice story all the same and got her off the hook when everyone one was in dismay, whether true or not.
I’d imagine, as he was already employed and presumably had some sort of employment contract, and presumably as they all trust each other, he was appointed as team manager and they all just carried on working until they got round to sorting a new ‘manager’ one out.
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It’s an entertainment business. 5-4 wins will retain or grow the fanbase, 0-0 and 1-0 hoofball will see the crowds tumble.
There’s definitely some truth in this… Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle or George Graham’s Arsenal.
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Butler is an inexperienced manager who may be leaning heavily into Schofield, it makes me wonder how much this is down to Schofield.
This could be a far more significant explanation than most realise, for how crap things have been.
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Last season Whitehall looked like he could be a real asset, shithousery and all. This season his attitude and performances seem to have dropped off a cliff and (a couple of goals aside) I haven’t seen him do much of use or ‘play with a smile on his face’ in months. Most recently he’s looked like he’s doing little more than playing his contract out.
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Butler losing the support of the fans doesn’t particularly bother me. It’s losing the support of the players that’s a concern.
If that’s true of course.
It looked true on Saturday. There was a moment in the second half when the players were all called over to him (must have been an injury to an Alfreton player and a break in play, can’t quite remember). Butler held forth, offering comments and instructions, not one of them looked like they were listening.
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Wetherspoons?
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just because his contract was terminated it doesn’t mean he was booted out, he may have been or it might mean he has a new job and that is why we got a new CEO, I actually have no idea, but strange they bring a new CEO in before terminating his contract
The wording would have been “contract terminated by mutual consent”. He’s clearly been kicked out. The statement’s sign off of ‘the door is always open for him to visit us at any point’ is the same wording used about Simon Elliott. It’s a polite way of saying ‘Get lost but don’t be bitter, football’s a harsh and sometimes nasty business and these things happen’…
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I know people think this is harsh what I’m about to say but Turnbull has been living off his past exploits of signing Sharp, keogh e.t.c years before. Who’s he brought in post Sharp, Keogh who’s been any good ?
All we keep doing is keeping him in the background involved when he’s had a hand in signing absolute dross for previous failed managers. Sorry it’s just not good enough.
This fascination with keeping people because “they’re part of the furniture & bleed claret and blue has to stop”. I’d much rather have somebody here in an advisory role when it comes to signings who knows this level particularly and what it takes to get out of it.
All the times we’ve tried this it’s worked with Adkins, no more.
I totally get where you’re coming from. But I’m pretty sure Lee Turnbull’s role involves a bit more than sitting in a corner chewing a Scotch egg that’s gone beyond it’s best before, and occasionally getting a text from a scout and signing a player. He does know the workings of the club intimately – better than anyone else I expect, and particularly in terms of the player experience – and the insight there is probably a valuable bridge for prospective signings.
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How long before a bump in the road becomes a pothole.
We are top of National North and have scored more goals than any other team, whilst conceding 11 only one more than Curzon Ashton who have played 3 games less.
Most of us are disgruntled with the playing style and lack of tactics, coupled with a lack of striker to partner and compliment Whitehall.
The need to not lose is also costing us dearly. Trying not to concede when winning by a slender margin then drawing is costing us (Chorley and Oxford), poor 0-0 draws (Chester and Radcliffe) more points dropped.
Defeats of 3-2 in the last two away games which account for more than half of our goals conceded. The first of which we absolutely threw away. The other defeat away at Scarborough was a poor game where we failed to compete at all.
Due to our managers negativity and lack of sustained attacking pressure (unlike Tamworth last season) the opposition do not fear us and feel free to have a go.
We need to set the bar so teams after conceding think how to contain us not as they do now how to mount a comeback.
Our fan base, playing squad and resources count for nothing if we continue to play like mice and not lions.
The current strategy is not working and the manager thinks hard work will put right his failings.
Sorry but unless we get change we will need to change.
That bump is getting bigger.
You’re working from a false premise. The current state of things IS the road, and the bump in it was the 6-0 win against Farsley Celtic.
