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Lillis needs to get gone, seemingly adds nothing.
No idea. Experienced manager who’s ideally had prior experience to steering teams away from relegation scraps.
Who is out there, anybody know ?
I may be insane but I still think an experienced manager and a striker or two on loan “half decent one’s” we’ll survive.
Keep with Cox and fail to sign anybody, we may as well write the season off and not bother.
To be honest, I think I gave Cox too much credit there…even if we got a few strikers in and kept with Cox we’d still be dead certs for the drop.
Cox isn’t up to it..simple as that
Swann is to blame, no doubt about it. Cox needs to go as well though. Cox has been dealt a bad hand but he’s so far out of his depth it doesn’t even warrant thinking about.
It’s crystal clear we need a striker or two but this formation is dreadful and it’s Cox who keeps fielding it so he needs to get gone.
Unacceptable.
Were the previous records of Jarvis and Turan checked before signing the pair of them on 2yr contracts ?
Turan 80 games, 11 goals 2 of which were for Weston Super Mare.
Jarvis 99 games, 18 goals 14 of which were scored for Basingstoke Town in the 2016-17 season.If they were checked…what was your reasoning for signing the pair of them ?
Stick that to him…piss taking sod
January 16, 2021 at 8:51 pm in reply to: At what point do we consider the chairman is the problem? #201086Harsh reality is that Swann in my opinion came here to pad out his property portfolio with the ground development, but subsequently fell out with the council…fell a bit out of love with spending money and has now pretty much given up on the club.
Hence why we are where we are. That’s just my opinion. I’m not saying that’s the case but just what I think may have gone on here.
You don’t sign players like Turan and Jarvis if you have even an ounce of ambition left as a chairman.
I stuck their records on here few days back, it’s beyond a joke.
I said Swann playing real life football manager with the club would result in this. Anybody with half a brain cell could see this coming.
How many times were fans getting on at Humberside to tell him about recruitment and every time he brushed it all off with his “I know best attitude” and now look !
January 16, 2021 at 12:25 am in reply to: I wonder what Bradford fans will be spouting tonight #200942Who cares ?. I’m more interested how we do later today.
January 16, 2021 at 12:10 am in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200939what more experience or knowledge of the game do you want WG
Managing is a hell of a lot different to just “having knowledge”. Wilcox stumbled over the line with a team littered with quality and Adkins was a one off.
Cox isn’t equipped to do this job…if he was, he wouldn’t be setting the team up with 3 defensive midfielders and one striker upfront with nobody within 20 yards of him.
Tactically he’s nowhere near what’s required.
January 15, 2021 at 1:00 am in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200897If we do manage to stay up, Swann needs to move on. To be honest he’s the root cause…we need a chairman to actually be a chairman.
Not a chairman/football recruiter/tactician or whatever else he probably thinks he is…a simple chairman will do for me.
If we get that and get one that allows the football people to take care of the footballing side of things, we’ll be a long way to sorting ourselves out.
I would say we’d be fine if Swann stepped back and allowed other people to take charge of player recruiting e.t.c but we’ve been down this road a dozen times before.
It’s boring now, if anything was going to change it would have already.
Vader, to be fair I actually really feel for Cox. I do believe he’s doing his best but his best isn’t good enough due to the fact he has no real knowledge of how to do better.
That’s the big issue…people say experience isn’t the be all and end all but with the position we’re in, it’s paramount.
Appointing a rookie manager with that squad was bizare to say the least. Lillis end of this season can go for me, not sure what the hell he’s brought to the party.
That’s what I was thinking. Surely this transfer committee can’t have seen the goal scoring records of Turan and Jarvis ?
Never mind footage, just surely reading those records for the pair of them and having half a braincell would lead you not to sign them.
2 year deals for the pair of them ?…it’s beyond a joke !
I have a sneaking suspicion whoever it was down at the club went on recommendations and thought that was enough.
This is why football clubs have the structure they have in place “scouts” to not allow this crap to happen.
I know Turnbull hadn’t unearthed any gems in what seems like years but do you really think he would have recommended either of those two ?
Least a scout/scouts would have read their previous records for crying out loud. Due diligence and all that jazz.
It’s utter bullshit with Cox making that excuse. Green, Gillead in the no 10 role or even young Jessop upfront are all possibilities.
We could even give Dales a go up there. Utter nonsense.
I put Turan’s record on here the other day and it was absolutely shocking.
What were this transfer committee thinking ?
Jarvis record is equally as bad. Played 109 games, he’s scored 20 goals. 14 of those were scored for Basingstoke Town in the 2016-2017 season.
In the 3 years before he signed for us he played 52 games and scored 4 goals. 3 of those were in 25 games for Sutton United and the other 1 he scored for Hemel Hempstead Town on loan. 1 goal in 6 games.
Turan’s record was even worse. When I looked it was even worse than I feared.
I mean come on….is this where Swann see’s us now ?
I fortunately forgot about him. If he has a suitor he needs to get gone once McGahey is back.
January 14, 2021 at 7:41 pm in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200874I feel for Cox – proper stitched up with a really crap squad with at least 4 strikers who should not be footballers (or part time at best).
Coupled to that he does not have the applicable attributes to be a football manager and is way out of his depth.
Take a moment to think about a local lad played for the club supports the club has the best interests of the club but stitched up by his boss and his own abilities – cannot be a nice feeling.
People understand that, me included. Now, what annoys me is Cox fielding us up primarily not to lose with zero ambition. That I won’t accept.
There are a few options Cox can explore but simply won’t, so it’s on him. Stick Green up top with Loft or stick Gillead behind Loft in a 4/4/1/1 formation to offer support, stick Green RW and promote Dales to sub bench to cover for the RW position.
Playing that formation with 1 isolated striker and 3 defensive midfielders is unforgivable.
Cordner was dog poo…sorry. Cordner has size and power but never had the right mentality, he’s the biggest but softest CB I’ve seen.
I’ll be surprised if he cuts it at even conference level.
I told you he’d end up going back. Taft in, Onariase due back at the weekend and Mcgahey about a week later with Barks as 4th CB.
I saw something on twitter suggesting we might be in for an ex cod player James Tilley, winger/attacking midfielder…was released with 8 months of his contract left.
23 yr old, can play on both wings and in midfield.
Probably bull poo but he’s versatile and contract to end of season might be ok. Started off well there but apparently dipped off.
January 14, 2021 at 2:27 am in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200823Howard reminds me of Tommy Evans. Fantastic shot stopper but every time a ball went in the box and when he had to come out to generally deal with anything your heart used to skip a beat.
No lack of experience where he’s concerned, he’s just limited as a GK…even at this level.
Watson is crap as well though.
On the new manager front, as I’ve said before….it’s asking far too much of Cox to keep us up, he simply doesn’t have a clue tactically how to turn it around, hence why he’s in the ultra defensive mindset he’s in, he simply can’t fathom any other way of going about it.
Jack of all trades is Stevie.
I’ve read in the past that he makes a killer cup of tea so he could treble up as a second tea server.
No nonsense defender, Morale Boosting singer and Master Tea Maker.
Get him signed up !
January 13, 2021 at 6:51 pm in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200807Too many and that’s the big issue here. I don’t know why Cox doesn’t even field 4/4/1/1 and at least have a go.
Cox chooses to play this formation consisting of 3 defensive midfielders and a striker isolated to such an extent he doesn’t have another player within 20 yards of him and then moans that we’re not creating enough.
Seriously, what the hell does he expect ?
He could field 4/4/1/1..stick Green RW and have Gillead in the no 10 role offering support to Loft or stick Green up and go 4/4/2.
I have absolutely no idea why he’s opting to go the direction he’s going in….makes absolutely zero sense.
How does he know he hasn’t got anyone else to play up front, he never gives any of the forgotten or ignored a chance !
Green is more of a wide player but he played in the striker position while he was a trainee at Blackburn Rovers and also played that position at Southport so he definitely knows how to play up there.
Why wouldn’t playing Green and Loft not be better that playing with Loft isolated upfront with a player not within 20 yards of him ?
So would Stevie Wonder…that’s no glowing endorsement ferrite.
January 13, 2021 at 4:07 pm in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200797Too much experimentation we’ll all argue but when you are leaking at the back and have no impact whatsoever up front – maybe you have to try something different.
There’s no maybe about it..choosing to set the team up like he is doing is going to have us limping to relegation.
Swann and Cox are lucky fans aren’t turning up to watch it, they’d have have been booed off countless times. People simply wouldn’t put up with it.
The playing style seriously needs looking at. Cox despite being way, way out of his depth needs to be braver.
The striker In question scored the other night against Liverpool, forgot his name already. I doubt he’d come here and even if he did, not sure he’d be the right sort of striker.
Ideally we need experience but with the crap we’re in, who’s going to want to come here. This needs an experienced Jon Parkin type….he would have been perfect about now !
January 13, 2021 at 3:56 pm in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200793You might well be right, didn’t work so well down the road though.
I know getting an experienced manager means they’re a dead cert to save us but whoever they are will have a better chance than Cox.
Swann lumping the pressure on Cox to do it is asking far too much, he’s clearly way out of his depth. The currently style of play he’s probably relying in because he’s not tactically clued up enough to go any other way with the team struggling the way it is.
I don’t really blame Cox. This would be a hard enough job for the most experienced manager, nevermind a rookie.
That’s Cox’s doing.
Why not stick Green up there along side Loft and have him feeding off the scraps ?
Cox said we haven’t got a viable striker to partner Loft which is why we play so conservatively. Cox is right in that sense but surely playing Green up there is better than setting the team up as he is doing.
Green’s played games upfront in his career so he knows how to play that role and he’s really quick..even when he’s played on the right he’s a willing runner and goes by people.
Not buying that excuse…no sense in having us set up like the way he has us at the minute.
January 13, 2021 at 12:32 am in reply to: At what point do we consider the manager is the problem? #200749To be fair to Cox he may become a decent enough manager given time but we haven’t got time. In my opinion to get the best out of what we have “which isn’t a great deal” we at least need an experienced manager to extract every bit they can.
Cox has them playing so negative it looks to me like the attacking players have lost the will to live.
There’s much wrong at this football, mostly caused by Swann. Signing an inexperienced manager from day one to guise a rag tag squad like this was asking a lot to start with.
I know we keep saying “me included” that we can’t keep sacking managers but we seriously need an experienced head at the helm to give us the best chance of staying up.
Cox is way out of his depth. An experienced manager would be severally tested, never mind a rookie. Asking far too much and Cox doesn’t/won’t have the first idea of how to guise us to safety.
I don’t know who’s out there manager wise but we need to appoint somebody preferably who’s guided a team through relegation battles and survived.
No doubt that’s not a cast iron certainty it’s going to be profitable but if we don’t look down that route, I feel we’ll go down with Cox in charge.
Playing like we are doing, so negatively is asking for trouble.
People may disagree but that’s only my opinion.
Stamp, we’ll have to wait a few weeks till both Mcgahey and Onariase are back and send Cordner back, bit risky but if they come back in say 10 days time and get some training under their belts, we should be fine to send him back.
If anybody would want Bedeau, I’d be tempted to move him on as well. As said on here yesterday, you can tell he has a bit of quality to him but he’s forever switching off during games, his concentration is what let’s him down, he’s a bit too error prone and slack for my liking.
I don’t think the style of his play suits this league, he likes a bit of time on the ball to carry the ball out from the back but you can’t really do that at this level…simply don’t have time.
A poster said he’s a poor man’s John Stones and they’re spot on…just don’t think he fits this league.
Taft, Onariase, Mcgahey and Barks…we’ll more than likely have enough at CB.
If we can move on Butroid, Bedeau and Dales and send Cordner back…we might have enough in the piggy bank for two strikers till end of the season.
That’s the one position we’re screwed in.
Yes, Jarvis and Turan stupidly both got 2yr deals.
Who’s Hurst keen on, Butroid/Dales ?
It will probably be the same formation with 1 striker and Eisa and Gillead high up on the wings.
Beestin sitting like he was last match with Karacan and Spence infront of him with Eisa, Loft and gillead.
I think it will be
Howard
O’Malley Taft Bedeau Clarke
Beestin
Karacan Spence
Eisa Gillead
Loft
I doubt Cordner will be sent back until Onariase and McGahey are fit. I think they’re due back in a few weeks time.
I think Bedeau will be moved on as well once those two are back and Barks will more than likely take his place.
If we can move Butroid and Hallam on as well and get a few strikers in, we’ll be a lot better for it. One on loan and one permanent initially until end of the season will do.
Jesus, I forgot about Miller. I’d stick Miller in the Mike Grella camp…absolutely woeful
It wouldn’t surprise me if we soon signed Nightingale and then waited till end of this month when Mcgahey and Onariase are back and send Cordner back to Bournemouth.
Bedeau can go for me as well and promote Barks to the 4th CB slot.
I wonder if there would be a team out there that would want him ?
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