Personally, I prefer them to be used as short term cover rather than part of transfer policy. They just add unnecessary numbers to the squad and we end up stifling our own players development.
First priority for me is that they have to be good enough to be an automatic pick if fit. Agree with DSGM about Yates & Gabriel but can’t believe no mention for Toney or Crookes.
First priority for me is that they have to be good enough to be an automatic pick if fit. Agree with DSGM about Yates & Gabriel but can’t believe no mention for Toney or Crookes. Heavily outnumbered by the duds though, too many to list there.
Andy Keogh wasn’t a bad loan, nor was Murray Wallace, yet Jacob Murphy Newcastle first team player and Joe Lolley Forest regular hardly started any games.
I would love to know what the criteria is behind each signing.
I keep saying we have as good in house as those recently signed. Supposedly we are fully committed to an in – house player development programme, I see precious little of it. In fact why sign anymore because they don’t get a chance.
We have a manager who says we don’t have anyone to play alongside Ryan Loft as a 2 man strike force ! We do just give someone a chance, he has gambled on others out of position and stuck with it so why not now.
Desperate times call for desperate decisions and it is heading that way.
Unless of course the committee that designed the Duck Billed Platypus has been resurrected and trying new theories at TSV !!
It’s utter bullshit with Cox making that excuse. Green, Gillead in the no 10 role or even young Jessop upfront are all possibilities.
We could even give Dales a go up there. Utter nonsense.
I put Turan’s record on here the other day and it was absolutely shocking.
What were this transfer committee thinking ?
Jarvis record is equally as bad. Played 109 games, he’s scored 20 goals. 14 of those were scored for Basingstoke Town in the 2016-2017 season.
In the 3 years before he signed for us he played 52 games and scored 4 goals. 3 of those were in 25 games for Sutton United and the other 1 he scored for Hemel Hempstead Town on loan. 1 goal in 6 games.
Turan’s record was even worse. When I looked it was even worse than I feared.
I mean come on….is this where Swann see’s us now ?
Jarvis record is equally as bad. Played 109 games, he’s scored 20 goals. 14 of those were scored for Basingstoke Town in the 2016-2017 season.
In the 3 years before he signed for us he played 52 games and scored 4 goals. 3 of those were in 25 games for Sutton United and the other 1 he scored for Hemel Hempstead Town on loan. 1 goal in 6 games.
Turan’s record was even worse. When I looked it was even worse than I feared.
I mean come on….is this where Swann see’s us now ?
Makes you wonder about some peoples judgement. If a player cannot score goals at a lower non league level, what makes them think they will score consistently in league 2?
you don’t need goals when you have pace energy excitement. Peter knows a player when he sees one – or if he doesn’t see them he just has to play golf with the father.
Special shoutout to George Miller for taking Tomi Ameobi’s record as the worst striker ever to play for us.
Please cease and desist from making any further such claims that call into question Mr Ameobi’s status as The Worst Striker Ever to Play for Us. Mr Ameobi’s record in this respect is unquestioned, at no time has he given any indication that he was not The Worst Striker Ever to Play for Us. Should you repeat your claim, I will have no option but to take further steps to protect Mr Ameobi’s reputation.
I just wonder about motivation for some of these young players: you’re at a (relatively) big club, earning reasonable money and with little chance of ever being involved in the first team there. Then you get told that you’re going to a club you might never have heard of, miles away from your home, and be expected to play a completely different style of football from the one you’ve been trained to play. I mean, how many Premier League kids are trained to deal with Kevin Ellison (or Newport’s pitch for that matter)?
It doesn’t feel like a recipe for success, so I don’t really understand why we keep going back for more.
I can imagine a young players heads being filled with blather from their agent. “You’ll go straight into the first team there. You’ll be better than those L2 cloggers. It’s much easier to score goals at that level. Other clubs will notice you and offer you ££££s.”
Then they get on the blower to prospective takers and big the lad up with more bullshit. Lazy sods who can’t be arsed to get from behind their laptop or mobile buy into it and before long you’ve got an Ike Ugbo or a George Miller to catapult you to promotion.
Special shoutout to George Miller for taking Tomi Ameobi’s record as the worst striker ever to play for us.
Please cease and desist from making any further such claims that call into question Mr Ameobi’s status as The Worst Striker Ever to Play for Us. Mr Ameobi’s record in this respect is unquestioned, at no time has he given any indication that he was not The Worst Striker Ever to Play for Us. Should you repeat your claim, I will have no option but to take further steps to protect Mr Ameobi’s reputation.
I will glady defend Mr Miller’s right to be called such in any court of law.
I have 15 games worth of evidence proving his inability to perform even basic tasks expected of a 10 year old footballer.
Futhermore I will prove that the “goal” he “scored” for the club was not touched by him and should infact have been credited to Mr McAtee.
I think NI is right about the agents. The other issue is the perceived or real lack of effort and commitment to the club shown by some of our own and loan players.
They make it pretty obvious that they either don’t want to be at the club, or have been farmed out because they have no future at their own club. Some will be on higher wages than our better players who are trying. Can’t be great for team spirit.
Yates, Crookes and Toney of the recent ones did put the effort in and looked like they were happy to get game time. Of course we were at the top of league 1 then and provided a better opportunity for players looking to progress.
Some of the more recent ones have played as if they don’t really care or they are here knowing that they will be released by their parent club when their contract is up. Still don’t understand why they are not busting a gut to get a contract with us or impress another club. Probably taking too much notice of their agents.
I will glady defend Mr Miller’s right to be called such in any court of law.
I have 15 games worth of evidence proving his inability to perform even basic tasks expected of a 10 year old footballer.
Futhermore I will prove that the “goal” he “scored” for the club was not touched by him and should infact have been credited to Mr McAtee.
The very fact that Mr Miller was even credited with a goal clearly demonstrates he can in no way be considered to be The Worst Striker Ever to Play for Us. Mr Ameobi was not, at any time, in a position where he could even have been incorrectly credited with a goal. Mr Ameobi would also like his subsequent record to be taken into account, including the total of zero goals for Doncaster, Grimsby & Mansfield. We note that Mr Miller has scored the frankly remarkable total of 19 goals in his career, nearly twice as many as scored by Mr Ameobi (12) and that Mr Miller showed such promise that Barnsley paid the sum of £200,000 for his services. There is no doubt that no club would ever have paid such a sum for Mr Ameobi. Unless it was to leave.
The court will note that my learned friend is only considering Mr Ameobi’s goals in English football and NOT his career as a whole.
If the full facts are taken into account then an entirely different picture presents itself.
According to my independently verified expert testimony (Wikipedia) Mr Miller has a record of 121 games with 23 goals, a goals to games ratio of 0.19.
On the other hand Mr Ameobi has a record of 248 games with 57 goals. A quite frankly prolific gtg ratio of 0.22.
Add on the fact that Mr Ameobi went on to play for such giants of European football as Knattspyrnudeild Vestra, Ungmennafélag Grindavíkur & Vaasan Palloseura. Clubs at a level Mr Miller could only dream of representing.
It should also be noted that Mr Ameobi is the all time leading appearance maker and second all time leading scorer at the highly reputable FC Edmonton of the prestigious Canadian Premier League.
The final point submitted to the court is the weight of expectation placed onto Mr Ameobi by the fans due to his second name. Mr Ameobi is the younger brother of arguably the Premier Leagues greatest ever goal scorer and as such was expected to perform at a level much higher than that which was delivered. As such I argue that if it was not for the weight of his name he would be remembered simply as piss poor along with the likes of James Alabi, Matt Bailey and George Thomas and would not in fact considered one of the “worst of all time”.
The jury will note that Mr Miller’s defence is lead by My Darryn Stamp, who himself has falsely laid claim to the title of Worst Striker Ever to Play for Us and therefore his evidence should be considered in that light.
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