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Hopefully he can still dovetail with Scrimshaw but I’m not yet convinced they’ll be the perfect partnership some hope for.
Nobody has even said on this forum that they’d be the perfect partnership. All posters have said “including myself” is that they’re our best bet, which is a far cry from being “perfect”
Loft has his limitations but as long as the service is good enough he’ll be alright and Scrimshaw is busy enough and showed in the opening game with the over head kick that’s he’s a capable finisher.
The midfield balance is completely out though. I’d much rather play with wingers personally with Hippolyte and Bunn out wide and have Beestin partnering pugh/Wood in the middle.
We may as well go more positive as we’re getting well beat anyway with the negative approach.
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I know it will be bloody hard and the timing is rotten. Look, it’s bloody terrible in fact but what can anybody really do ?
Treat someone like a human being? Give the man a couple of weeks off to grieve, to organise everything that comes with a family bereavement, to attend the funeral? I mean, is that too much to ask?
No, it’s terrible what’s happened to him. As I said before, I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. I feel for him, I really do.
I also feel for this football club though and don’t want us to be stuck in a situation where we keep him here for the foreseeable future which relegates us in the process just because we didn’t part company because due to feeling guilty.
I’m thinking of both parties, believe me. I know the importance of staying up..if we go down, that’s us pretty much finished as a football club.
I have never ever witnessed a player so compromised in terms of fitness getting a full 90 minutes. I saw him about the 25 minute mark and he looked absolutely shattered.
Made it worse that we had a natural RB playing CB and even had Pugh who could have played there.
How the hell Lillis didn’t notice he was knackered when I did I’ll never know and he was the manager on the bloody day ?
Lillis needs putting out to pasture, completely inept, closely followed by Cox.
Mr Swann needs to piss off but for the time being Lillis and Cox need quickly binning. I’d let McMahon take charge, he can’t be any worse..surely not !
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Harsh on Millen…he looked absolutely shattered around the 25 minute mark. I could even tell he was on his last legs from so early on.
I suspect he’ll be a lot better with more game time. Millen should never have started, but he didn’t pick himself, did he ?
I don’t care what Cox says, Rowe isn’t a CB.
Bunn and Scrimshaw you can’t really count because they were totally isolated having to deal with Torpey-esque high balls.
Perry was playing in completely the wrong role as a defensive midfielder tracking Jay. How the hell is he supposed to be expected to play well in that role ?
Wood and Hackney were both crap though. Again should never have both played as Beestin should have started to help anchor the midfield, he should be a pick no matter what.
Taft and Davis looked shaky.
Thompson did well.
Watson was solid enough.
If you honestly go though all the poor performances, most of it is down to complete mismanagement.
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This week we spent a FULL DAY training specifically to counter one player and then stood and watched him tear us apart and score 2 goals.
It’s all well and good setting up to stop a player but when you choose to play a ball playing midfielder as a deep lying one to screen said player it all goes to shit anyway.
It appears they’ve thought ” right, that Jay is their best player who’s already scored in the last 3 games against us, let’s go out to nullify him, completely ignoring the fact we don’t have a fit defensive midfielder so just stuck Perry there in a desperate attempt to see their plan through.
If either of those two idiots had an ounce of sense they would have realised that having to play Perry in a completely different role which wouldn’t suit him just go down that route wouldn’t have been worth it.
Cox and Lillis should have known right from the off that it wasn’t even feasible to even considering doing that.
The pair of them have should have just played players where they should be played in a 4/4/2 and if we get beat then we get beat. You don’t field a baffling team as we did which was detrimental to ourselves just because you’re obsessed with what the other team offers.
I don’t understand those two at all. In fact, I don’t want to if that’s their thought process.
Absolutely stupid.
Millen looked a million miles away but he looked absolutely shattered from around the 20 minute mark. Millen shouldn’t even have started, you could tell he’s nowhere near match fit.
Perry tracking Exeter’s best player in Jay in a defensive midfield shielding role, despite him being a forward thinking ball playing CM.
LoL Honestly
I have to laugh because that was embarrassing.
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I’d actually go as far to say the players aren’t too bad, they’re just being completely mismanaged .
Beestin and Pugh/Wood in CM isn’t bad at all. Perry is good enough, providing you play him in a role which actually suits his game. Upfront is questionable but even playing Scrimshaw with Jarvis would get a hell of a lot more out of him than we got today, he’s got enough about him to score at this level.
Bunn wide right isn’t terrible. Wilson is talented as we’ve seen more than a few glimpses from him to suggest he’s got something about him.
Green has started awful but showed last season he’s fairly decent. Hippolyte I’ve never been a fan of but started this season quite well.
Taft, Davis and Manny are fairly good CB’s. This 3 or 5 at the back, whichever way you look at it doesn’t really work. Started off pretty solid but it’s all gone to shit.
I’m not saying these are world beaters by any means but they’re good enough to finish lower mid table.
Put it this way, there is talent within the players at the club…it’s just they’re being completely hamstrung by a clueless management team.
That shambles today was one of the most baffling line ups I’ve ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
Not going to lie, I was speechless. Perry as a defensive midfielder tracking Jay despite being a ball playing midfielder ?
Beestin benched. Millen at RB didn’t even look fit, fair enough give him 20 minutes or something at the end but he looked absolutely knackered at around the 25 minute mark, he was understandably run ragged.
Rowe fish out of water at CB and Jarvis overlooked for a rust Harry Bunn and even further over looked when O’Neil came on and believe you me, I’ve mentioned Matt Bailey as the worst targetman I’ve seen in an iron shirt and what I’ve seen of O’Neil, if he doesn’t sort himself out he’ll be battling him for that spot.
As I said above, the players are a mile away from being a top unit in this league but they do have more talent than what they’re being allowed to show.
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Answers the question as to whether Wood & Hackney have to start as part of their loan deals!
That must be the case surely !. I have said before I’m not sure what Lillis adds, he’s even more clueless than Cox.
I’m still unsure what he actually brings to the table.
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Cheers NI, good to see some hard facts that compare us to all the other clubs.
Ok Mansfield have conceded the same amount of late goals as us with no other team conceding more late goals than the two of us.
Ferrite, we’ve still won 1 in 17 games.
You’re hair splitting again !
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Ferrite’s I’m at a loss as to why you’re even backing the club’s corner as we’ve won 1 in 17 matches.
We do concede late goals quite often, Ferrite…it’s already been proven as we’re culpable of it so far this season.
All you’re doing is splitting hairs when really you shouldn’t be. I really don’t understand what you’re trying to achieve.
won 1 in 17 matches for crying out loud.
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Granted he’s only played in 1 game but he’s appears to want far too much time on ball and isn’t the biggest physically. Hackney should have come off at half time in all honesty, it was like playing with 9 men at times, never got into the game and didn’t offer much at all.
Blimey, it seems like only 4 or 5 days ago that you were telling me how good a player he was and how it made great sense to play him ahead of all of our own players. How times change.
“I suspect he’ll be a luxury player at this level. Hackney will probably end up being one of those types who would do well in top end league 1 and championship but seriously struggle at this kind of level.”
I never said he was a bad player at all hence why I have suspicions that he’d do well much higher up. I just have concerns that he may not adapt to this kind of level of football.
Nice to know you picked that section out without including the other part which fully explained my reasoning.
Nothing like a selective cut and past job ferrite.
Bravo.
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Cox got that wrong tactically in my opinion. Goal was clearly coming and finally brought people on but only changed like for like and never really adapted tactically, no tactical nous whatsoever which most expect from Cox.
I don’t get Green starting ahead of Scrimshaw as he’s been absolutely awful. Thompson had a bit of a shocker. Hackney is supposed to have a hell of lot of talent but if that’s anything to go by his game may not adapt to this level of football.
Granted he’s only played in 1 game but he’s appears to want far too much time on ball and isn’t the biggest physically. Hackney should have come off at half time in all honesty, it was like playing with 9 men at times, never got into the game and didn’t offer much at all.
I suspect he’ll be a luxury player at this level. Hackney will probably end up being one of those types who would do well in top end league 1 and championship but seriously struggle at this kind of level.
Wood on the other hand looks a proper player who’s game will lend it’s self to most levels of football. One poster mentioned Ryan Yates as a comparison and to be fair he does match up well to him, he appears to be a really good all round player.
Wood looks to have a bit of bite about him and puts himself about where as Hackney will probably be one of those “pretty” players who struggle with the physicality.
Defence looked shaky as hell again. Manny was all over the place and Davis looked dodgy as well. Next match it will be Rowe in there with Millen at RB.
CM midfield I’d go Wood, Perry and Beestin. Jarvis and Scrimshaw upfront. Green needs time on the bench. I understand he’s quick but he doesn’t really offer anything else and besides being quick, he never uses his pace effectively anyway.
We need Loft back, sooner the better. Perry back in CM for his passing. Thompson keeps that shite up he offered up today then O’Malley needs to come back in. I know he’s not made the best start himself but he looks out of favour now.
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Millen is near enough fit now I think, not far off. Rowe put in that display last match and Pugh can do a job there, albeit a bit dodgy there but can hold his own at times.
Thompson and O’malley for the LB slot isn’t too shabby. Scrimshaw, Loft “when he’s back” as the main two upfront with O’neil and Jarvis as back ups is a bit questionable but I imagine Scrimshaw and Loft will cause teams a lot of problems at this level.
This Hackney from what I’ve read is supposed to be a right player. I’ve read what the Boro fans said about him, by all accounts league one clubs were after him but we’ve somehow managed to get it done.
I can’t recall ever reading so many positive comments on a player before. Hull lad is supposed to be a bit of a player as well.
Perry, Hackney, Beestin, Wood and Pugh as the options now. Hallam will probably never be fit and Kenyon despite being injured looked like he was shuffling around in lead boots, never seen anybody as immobile as him before.
I would have liked a striker in but considering we had very little CM options, these two will do nicely. There’s no way we could have kept relying on Hippolyte and whoever else filling in there for much longer.
All in all I’m personally pretty pleased. Get Millen and Bunn back fit to add to the options and we may be ok. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d keep Watson in goal now, Bilson will have to wait.
