Snakes and ladders

[alcazar]

Struggle, graft, climb, graft, climb a bit more.
Whoops, landed on a snake and doooown we go.🙁

Out of interest, does anyone think we’ll ever get out of the habit of conceding late?

[Northumbiron]

Only if the opposition have zero shots on target!

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[Iron-awe]

Well we did not concede a late goal against Tranmere last Saturday but we did have 11 players on the field not 10 ( for 70 minutes incidentally today ) and we also did not have another of our better defenders off injured either. These little details have a habit of making the team weaker defensively, in case you happened to miss these minor details before posting your question.

[alcazar]

So, oh wise one, that’s been our reason for conceding late every time then?

Only we do seem to make a habit of it…or maybe you’ve not noticed?

[Iron-awe]

alcazar wrote:

So, oh wise one, that’s been our reason for conceding late every time then?

Only we do seem to make a habit of it…or maybe you’ve not noticed?

In the context of this season with an improved defence I’m not sure the link with previous seasons late goal failings has been established yet and as I pointed out today was exceptional due to the circumstances we found ourselves in. Maybe you might be prepared to give these new guys a chance to prove their worth defensively before jumping in with your usual negative bilge, oh unwise one.

[Ferrite]

alcazar wrote:

Only we do seem to make a habit of it…or maybe you’ve not noticed?

Got the stats to back up your claim?

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open hearth iron

[WonderGoals]

Iron awe to be fair the defence is still shaky, hence today’s debacle. Manny was all over the place and Davis was dodgy.

[lesgeo]

I now have a feeling that a four man defence could make us more vulnerable.
Three CBs who generally gel together has worked.
It looks like four at the back is going to be forced onto us for the next match, however.

[alcazar]

Ferrite wrote:

alcazar wrote:

Only we do seem to make a habit of it…or maybe you’ve not noticed?

Got the stats to back up your claim?

Can’t be arsed.
Do you dispute it or are you just being an a-hole?

[Iron-awe]

Best ignore him Ferrite, it’s probably the result of wiping one several times a day that makes him post such crap.

[WonderGoals]

lesgeo wrote:

It looks like four at the back is going to be forced onto us for the next match, however.

Not really. Millen can go RB and Rowe to CB. Millen after another weeks training will be fit. Cox could very well give him 60/70 mins until knackered and then stick Pugh at RB in his place.

[Ferrite]

alcazar wrote:

Do you dispute it or are you just being an a-hole?

No idea if it’s true or not but just asserting something doesn’t make it true.

I suspect we’re no better or worse than most teams, we just notice the ones we concede because they’re the ones we care about.

[alcazar]

So you do the research to prove me wrong, then.

As for iron-whore, nothing of value added as usual.

[Northumbiron]

Four late goals in the six games we’ve played……

Late Goals

[alcazar]

Just had a quick look at this season.
In six games we have conceded three times in the final six minutes of normal time and any extra time.

So that’s an average of every other game.

Some quite a few years ago we did it so often that the Telewag worked out that if we’d played 80 minute games, we’d have been promoted as champions. In fact we missed out on the playoffs.

Seems we’ve learnt little.

[Ferrite]

alcazar wrote:

In six games we have conceded three times in the final six minutes of normal time and any extra time.

Is that a big number (how does it compare with other teams? And how many of those goals changed the results?

[WonderGoals]

Ferrite’s I’m at a loss as to why you’re even backing the club’s corner as we’ve won 1 in 17 matches.

We do concede late goals quite often, Ferrite…it’s already been proven as we’re culpable of it so far this season.

All you’re doing is splitting hairs when really you shouldn’t be. I really don’t understand what you’re trying to achieve.

won 1 in 17 matches for crying out loud.

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[Ferrite]

WonderGoals wrote:

Ferrite’s I’m at a loss as to why you’re even backing the club’s corner as we’ve won 1 in 17 matches.

We do concede late goals quite often, Ferrite…it’s already been proven as we’re culpable of it so far this season.

Because you always hear bores saying “we concede so many late goals” and pretending like we’re the only club that does it. I’m trying to understand if there is something in it or if we’re no different from most other clubs.

As you rightly point out, we’re crap in a whole host of different ways, I’m curious if this is another failing or an area where we’re not too bad.

Anyway, the “late goal” at Northampton was essentially irrelevant as we would have lost anyway and probably only conceded because we were pushing forward to try to get something out of the game. I think we’d all rather the team did that than just settle for a 1-0, no?

[Northumbiron]

So far this season we’ve conceded three times in the last 15 minutes. Only Mansfield have conceded the same number (3) and no team has conceded more.

6/24 teams have conceded zero late goals.

On that basis we are not that great at keeping out the opposition late on, but six games is not much of a sample.

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[Deereyme66]

Lol, when you get a reasonable sample don’t forget to include Bucks’s much lauded ‘confidence intervals’. Or in our case when it comes to the likelihood of winning, ‘unconfidence intervals’!

[Sanfran49]

Regrettably for those who go watch it is going to be a tortuous season.

We only just escaped last season, we will not escape 2 seasons running !
Can we stop conceding late goals, can we actually become an entertaining team – all depends on who is in charge. Because Mr Cox is not the man, I wasn’t that impressed after last season but his actions upon signing the 2 from championship clubs is despicable. players get opportunities based on the performance of others – What had Tom Pugh done wrong ???

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alcazar

[cassidystash]

Nothing, Cox has signed 2 players he believes are better. He can’t be blamed for that unless he’s proved wrong. IF he’s wrong and they are no better than Pugh he should only be blasted if he keeps picking them before Pugh anyway. He did say recently that Pugh was his first choice RB so room for all 3 you would think.

[Ferrite]

Northumbiron wrote:

So far this season we’ve conceded three times in the last 15 minutes. Only Mansfield have conceded the same number (3) and no team has conceded more.

6/24 teams have conceded zero late goals.

On that basis we are not that great at keeping out the opposition late on, but six games is not much of a sample.

Cheers NI, good to see some hard facts that compare us to all the other clubs.

Am I right that the only 1 of those 3 goals which has cost us points is the Sutton equaliser?

On the flip side, we picked up a point in the 90th minute against Walsall, so not all bad.

[WonderGoals]

Ferrite wrote:

Cheers NI, good to see some hard facts that compare us to all the other clubs.

Ok Mansfield have conceded the same amount of late goals as us with no other team conceding more late goals than the two of us.

Ferrite, we’ve still won 1 in 17 games.

You’re hair splitting again !

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alcazar

[Northumbiron]

Ferrite wrote:

Am I right that the only 1 of those 3 goals which has cost us points is the Sutton equaliser?

On the flip side, we picked up a point in the 90th minute against Walsall, so not all bad.

Indeed.

So 2pts dropped v Sutton and 1pt gained v Walsall.

Some will argue we’ve dropped twice as many as we’ve gained.

But as WG points out, the critical stat is the 1 win in 17.

Not good whatever way you look at it.

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alcazar

[Sanfran49]

cassidystash wrote:

Nothing, Cox has signed 2 players he believes are better. He can’t be blamed for that unless he’s proved wrong. IF he’s wrong and they are no better than Pugh he should only be blasted if he keeps picking them before Pugh anyway. He did say recently that Pugh was his first choice RB so room for all 3 you would think.

Let us look at the player judgement of Mr Cox – after 2 training sessions and a friendly he wanted KDT !!

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[mistertonmick]

I would like to know how we have so many injuries compared to other clubs who have possibly a couple for two seasons in a row.

[Ironawe]

We have a habit of signing crocks – we’ve all played football and we’ve all
known those who were always injured through ill fortune or just genetics. We seem to get suckered into buying these permacrocks and this is part of the reason we have the injuries we do

Who can honestly say signing Hallam for a further two years was good business. He’s fit 20% of the time

[Ferrite]

Northumbiron wrote:

But as WG points out, the critical stat is the 1 win in 17.

No one is disputing that fact!

[cassidystash]

“Let us look at the player judgement of Mr Cox – after 2 training sessions and a friendly he wanted KDT !!”

But Sanfran he’s realised that he’s made a mistake, he’s not continually picking KDT trying to prove himself right. If he’s got it wrong this time hopefully he’ll react the same way.

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