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It would be good if they could. One thing about football is that it can unite. Too often it spills into tribalism, but it’s been good to see sympathy from so many fans of other clubs towards our plight. I know most won’t do much, but it’s good all the same.
One thing I have been thinking of as a good idea is a fans united thing with Southend on our last home game of the season, provided we last that long. Both clubs struggling with bad owners, I know their fans are sympathetic from social media and their forum. It would be great if there is a mutual demonstration against Martin and Swann. It might not make much difference, but it could get publicity for both clubs’ struggles and it is an opportunity for comradeship with fellow fans of an unfashionable club.
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I suspect TW only meant the leg pull in jest.
He’s a Hully gully anyway, so it wouldn’t be a division among our fans from him.
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64 is probably not the only mod.
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Why is supporting women’s rights anti-trans? And since when did we only decide that one view is only permissible in society? If women are saying this impacts their rights, why is it fair for them to be ignored?
The Scottish parliament included a vote allowing sex criminals to be able to change gender easily and access women’s prisons, where we have already seen issues. So it’s anti-trans to oppose making sex crimes against women easier? Got it.
This is the nub of the problem. Those making out criticism is ‘anti-trans’ have nothing to say about women wanting their own space in sport and to have their own sex spaced places where they are more vulnerable from male violence. They dress that up as being ‘anti-trans’. I just think they’re anti-woman, but they don’t seem to care about that.
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Sorry MM if I offended you it wasn’t meant that way. I just think people should be for or against trying to save our club.
no need a apologise, I had a text chat with Lee yesterday because I only text him when I am concerned and twice in a week, first time since beginning of the season and told I and a lot of other people were not happy with the wording of the statement and asked if he would do another to calm supporters and tell them what is happening, he said he had to do it to try to soften sanctions from the FA, NL and the Police because if he didn’t the would hammer the club, Bristol Rovers were fined £16500 for the pitch invasion against us, he said it could impact a new owner from taking over the club, he told me more on what was happening but have to keep that to myself, he said regarding the club not mentioning the winding up order they haven’t received the official letters from the HMRC so until then… ,but the pitch invasion upset a lot of people who work at the club and though it was done peacefully with good intentions it is still against the law in any sport for spectators to set foot on the arena and this season after trouble in a number of games at all levels the punishment for clubs and supporters has got bigger, regarding if anyone got arrested I never saw anyone but whether they look at CCTV or not I don’t know but by his answers I think it really knocked him Saturday , and also you have to remember he is employed at the club so has to abide with the rules of the FA and NL, and I expect the Referee and possibly Woking as well will send in reports, at least the troubles caused a lot of media attention and will probably get Peter Swann moving quicker but like everyone else I want Simon and Ian in charge.
And please don’t shoot the messenger, I only contact him when I am concerned, I am not a Spy or a friend of Lee and just try get some info.
Also Lee was waiting for a response from the Iron Trust regarding the pitch invasion because they put a newsletter out explaining the consequences.
But hopes the takeover is soon and it refocuses the Supporters.Thanks for relaying. I do have some sympathy with Lee given the awkwardness it puts him under. However, he could have worded that much better (as he may realise now) and while I can understand their disappointment, it would have been nice if it was the other way. Supporters have been in dismay for months upon months and these saddened staff have not been good enough at communication over the situation.
I get that they can’t tell all, but something would be better than nothing. All we’ve had are rumours and cryptic talk of things working out, but it never does. Fans are bound to get restless and they’re not going to believe and place trust in Lee or others if they make out things will be ok, just wait and see, if it just deteriorates.
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‘Better thought out’ protests, which appeal to those who want a more sanitised protest, are unlikely to get the media coverage and are unlikely to put pressure on Swann.
What the protest did was create coverage in the media. Demos through town, boycotts, turning backs on the game, mass leaving won’t.
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Southend United put plenty of statements out regarding the winding up orders they have received and as sanfran mentions there was no word from the club about transfer embargoes, complete radio silence from the club until it comes to attacking the fans.
They are pathetic. Full of excuses for why they can’t communicate a single thing and have no accountability. Yet they jump the gun every time to attack the fans. They cannot condone the protests, but some understanding would go some way when emotions have been boiling over, exacerbated by the lack of information. I get NDAs and such exclude us from knowing everything, but some messaging of support and information would go some way to us thinking they give a damn about the support base.
Every time they downplay it, saying a deal is close, there’s nothing to worry about. Even now Turnbull’s apparently making out the winding up order is nothing because Southend have had 17, according to MM. It may not be the end yet, but it’s not nothing; healthy clubs don’t go through this. That comment to MM is revealing as to how the fans’ concerns are being treated. The more Lee and others bury their heads in the sand and ignore fan concerns the more the relationship between club and fanbase will sever.
It’s not good enough to say how everything’s fine, and then shift the goalposts when winding up orders are issued and make out the fanbase are being OTT.
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There are few actions without downsides, but some might say the publicity is a price worth paying to put pressure on Swann.
Looking through a few other forums and it has made it on to there. None were discussing our plight when we didn’t.
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It’s promising when we have Notts County and Vale fans coming on here to warn us about prospective owners. Makes me confident about the future!
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All JI was doing was laying out what he believes. Of course we can disagree and find it to be false or way off the mark. I don’t get the vitriol about it. I don’t think JI was being so originally.
What is this about a black lesbian? I missed that one.
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Clear as mud.
Don’t get me wrong, I have my suspicions as to the reason being an unwillingness to sell to them for personal reasons.
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Given Simon said that they have an offer which ticks all the boxes, and Swann is apparently willing to compromise, I wonder what the delay is. I know I am assuming some trust in Swann, but we have to take into account that it might be truthful.
I know some have pinned all their hopes on the Elliott-Sharp consortium, but I’d be happy with anyone reputable. The problem is that the other mooted figures, the London consortium, Smurthwaite, Hardy etc don’t seem to be those I’d want anywhere near the club.
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I think it’s more likely he’s trying to go for a larger than valuation offer to pay off his gambling debts and some more than some sinister scheme for housing. Why bother trying to sell if that’s his goal?
The offer made by the consortium is indicated to suit Begbies, which means it should be good enough for a sale (if true), but not for someone who might want to gamble for a bit more to help himself out of a situation where he owes millions.
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From a business perspective it makes sense to get as much as you can from a sale. However, if the bids don’t quite match that, catastrophe looms, and you supposedly care about the club there surely comes a point where you accept a lower bid for the good of the fans for the conscientious owner.
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