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There’s only so much you can dress that up. I am sceptical of the ransom land being that much of an issue from what legal bods have said and the inflated price was not an issue at the start. Fact is he said the deal was done, and it wasn’t.
If Swann was messing him around, which maybe caused doubts over its success,don’t advertise ground schemes to the fans?
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Yes, the only alternative to Hilton not misleading back in January was to just leave us in the brown. Saying that he’s pushing for the ground, and not launching schemes related to the ground when it was uncertain was definitely not an option. We all know Swann is an arsehole, but that doesn’t mean I am going to be impressed by false positives.
There has been some good stuff happening, but I will critique as I see fit, and Hilton saying that he had agreed a deal for the ground, when he hadn’t yet, is worthy of it.
It doesn’t excuse him for misleading, even if well intentioned. If it wasn’t set in stone, he shouldn’t have made out it was.
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On topic, an interesting development:
So after days and days of coverage including multiple front pages, BBC reports that Nigel Farage
1. Didn't lose Coutts banks account because of his views, but because his balance was too low.
2. Farage admits being offered alternative account with Natwest, but hasn't taken it up https://t.co/704uQWxixt— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 4, 2023
Farage offered a NatWest account, but he isn’t interested and we are supposed to believe this is some coordinated action against him? I am leaning to thinking he’s pouring on the conspiracies to stay relevant and keep an audience through manufactured grievance now. Typical Farage behaviour.
For what it’s worth, it may be the Russian explanations were overplayed, and I was wrong about that. However, the idea that Farage is being shut out of society because he can’t access high end banks, but can get an ordinary NatWest account, is a bit much.
BPG. I don’t know the ins and outs of your relations with JI, and exactly why you seem to have fallen out, so cannot make a judgement as to who is right or wrong. However, these stabs and complaints about not having your posts liked or being treated unfairly do not reflect well on you. I don’t mean this to be cruel, but if you’re trying to demonstrate a wrong committed against you by JI, it doesn’t come across well.
When are we getting our KVV podcast?
Buxton home
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Nope. I was referring to myself about sticking the head in my sand, so it seemed like you were speaking on my behalf by trying to refute this. I couldn’t have made it clearer in my response that I am not having a go at those who think differently, but your reply here seems to show that any contrary opinion is seen as an attack. As does every other post where I make a comment and get jumped on for daring to not be blindly optimistic.
Company’s House records are not social media sites and rumours. You don’t want to worry about that, then fine, but I think there’s enough to worry about from things like that.
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Oh, so when shown evidence to the contrary, you go on your self-righteous diversion.
The policeman literally says she was under arrest for failing to comply with a public spaces detention order (a restriction order)? How much clearer could he be?
She wasn’t arrested for praying. If you have a restraining order, you can’t be in a location of proximity to what you’re restrained from, no matter what you’re doing. It’s like football banning orders. A banned fan has to report to the police on matchdays and stay away from the ground by a certain mile radius. If they violate it, they may be arrested, but they wouldn’t be arrested because they were doing a mundane act (let’s say, walking a dog by the ground). It was because they violated a restriction order.
You point of view is called free speech ,siderite. I accept you have that view,others have a different point of view. Farage did nothing illegal by accepting appearance money, to say it was is wrong. This leads to the question of why can’t he open a bank account?
I will say that I appreciate this discussion being more measured and while there are disagreements, I appreciate it being less aggravated in these last replies.
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We may draw them in the cup! :-)
See the community note.
This is appalling. Disgraceful to see a woman arrested for simply praying on a British street. This should not be happening under a Conservative Govt, and action should be taken by the Home Secretary to ensure that scenes like this are not repeated. https://t.co/gK1nLHFBLS
— Nile Gardiner (@NileGardiner) December 22, 2022
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/isabel-vaughan-spruce-45-charged-25794626.amp
If you break restriction orders, you’re going to get arrested.
Banks do have the right to refuse custom if they think their business is at risk, and Russian money is deemed a risk to their business. When it was unclear to me as to why Farage was being frozen, I was uneasy. Now it appears to be due to Russian influences, I can understand why maybe a bank would want to protect itself from suspicious activity and criminal money.
Just as restaurants are free to not serve unruly customers and bakers a cake for a customer if it infringes on their beliefs (yes, including Christians for gay weddings), a bank can refuse custom for a customer if they are deemed a risk, and Russian money is a huge risk now. If the bank doesn’t find such comfortable, for their business, why should they be forced to host an account for a customer? You could speak about evidence and the need for it, and I agree for a court case. Of course it may end up being an incorrect decision, but he is free to challenge it. If there is nothing I will go back to saying the banks were too hasty, but the links to Russian money and allegations makes me understand why the banks would do this.
You could argue that due diligence should be lower, but then you’d have to justify why it’s good to allow banks to be more carefree with criminality, and this could easily lead to more corruption.
I made no accusations of lying. The only logical fallacies are coming from you. He could, of course, be mistaken. Though I do find it amusing how cocksure you’re levelling these allegations when you have no substance to your argument, only anecdotal evidence. A fallacy.
The point is that you have admitted he has taken in Russian money from a criminal regime we have international sanctions on. That would be an understandable, given what could happen to the bank as a result. So, yes, I will judge anyone who has worked for a disgusting, authoritarian, mass murdering regime and couldn’t care less about his ‘right’ to accept money from mass murdering regimes without consequence. Sorry. It was a disgrace that RT was on our screens for so long peddling propaganda, and all the charlatans who profited from it (Farage, Galloway, Salmond etc) disgraced themselves.
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Notice you reply to Deeryme66 now. Only after a bit of prompting. JI remained silent which is to be expected.
I replied because I thought I had something to add. I couldn’t give a damn about what I need to respond to, according to you.
I hate to break your own self-important bubble, but they don’t. You may want to do whatever you want, but if you want to intimidate people for an abortion, then there are legal consequences.
Farage claims he received appearance money from RT amounting to less than £5,000.
Your allegations have no substance. If you have concrete evidence that can be verified ,please reveal.My allegations are of substance, yet you have just confirmed he received Russian money, so that goes that claim. As for the rest, well Farage says it, so it must be true.
Show me one thing that demonstrate Farage’s existence is worth defending.
He’s a rotten individual, but rotten individuals deserve to exist, surely?
I mean it’s not exactly secret that Farage makes money from Russia. It specifically referenced RT money, and Farage demonstrably had an RT show, or are you going to play silly buggers over that? Also, my opinion isn’t subject to a court of law. I can hold an opinion while realising a court needs to be more stringent.
uld also be wrong, shame on those that think it’s ok for this to happen to Farage.
To be fair, it looks like The Times have reported it was due to the influx of Russian money. I was uneasy when I had no idea as to why this was happening, but there are good reasons why banks wouldn’t want to touch money (and those using it) like that with a bargepole.
The issue was that there was no reason given initially, but for me this looks like there are some answers being given through investigation and maybe the bank giving answers.
I hope this doesn’t make me seen as partisan in any way; I would say the same for anyone who has Russian money involved, and it my sympathies with Farage are draining now that more information has been made clear.
To be fair, this seems understandable. https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1674685451091992580
I mean, if they are going to play games, they could be a bit clever about it.
Looking at the edit history this was edited in two days ago and was done by an IP address from Grantham.
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This incident does feed into bpg’s paranoia though. We can’t have banks close accounts unless there’s sufficient reason given.
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I doubt the government care who you are, bpg.
Me too. No fan of sticking my head in the sand.
Sticking your head in the sand is ignoring something you know is happening….I don’t know anything is happening so nothing to stick my head in the sand to ignore. If and when Mr Hilton gives me a cause for concern I will worry about it, but for now, he hasn’t.
You don’t speak for me though, do you? I have concerns and to ignore them would be me sticking my head in the sand, which includes from stuff raised by IB. If you think otherwise, fine, but I reserve my right to my own opinion.
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