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After Hilton, it’s good to have some scepticism about the intentions of those involved. With Elliott, he made a fool of himself with Hilton, including making grandiose claims about how he knew Hilton had the money when he obviously hadn’t. Fans trusted him, so went along with it, and he used this to dismiss and demean those who had questions. I can forgive the majority of fans for hoping that the owner had good intentions, but Elliott went a step beyond. At best it creates doubt in his judgement and his actions were bound to create suspicions that he is out for himself and just interested in boosting his own prestige. He should have known better. There’s no point being so vitriolic about it, but I have less trust in his judgement now.

As it is, he is just a bit part of the board and I hope and doubt Michelle is being swayed by him, trusts her own judgement and gives equal thought to input from Roj, Sharp, Akther et al.

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Deereyme66

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Apollo11 wrote:

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…now is the opportune moment for it, since with a new contract it will be harder to dispense of him if we struggle next season and crowds fully turn.

It would also be costly, and it may be this that swings it really.

Note: However, I actually expect the Board to stand by him for reasons I described elsewhere.

That’s what I mean by ‘harder’. If we struggle before Christmas and crowds turn then we’re in a situation where we have to consider other options, and that will mean paying out a contract that we don’t have to do if we decided to part ways now.

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Aye, and we also had the biggest budget, with some players coming from higher up and one of the few full time squads at this level. We lost out on the title and in the playoffs, and also struggled against the better teams throughout. Now, as Dean couldn’t do this on a high budget, what’s the likelihood he can on a lower? A new manager will always be uncertain for success, but when you don’t think the current one is likely to succeed at all, there will always be those who think maybe a change is in order. Especially as now is the opportune moment for it, since with a new contract it will be harder to dispense of him if we struggle next season and crowds fully turn.

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MK Iron wrote:

If you have any doubt that a manager or coach will not last a season then you shouldn’t be offering them a contract at all.

What does a monthly or even a three monthly contract say to a manager and to the players he is trying to recruit?

Good point. Which I guess is why I would not offer a contract at all, because I fear it could come back to bite if we get more of the sub-par performances we have seen since Jimmyball got found out and he couldn’t counter-act. That said, I am not the board and this is just my opinion. If we have Jimmy, we will have to back him and the board, but I can’t help but worry it would be another guaranteed wasted season.

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Just Iron, Rene Artois

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We can’t just give up because of a poor manager surely? I fear we’ll struggle with Jimmy and a reduced budget, but the club will hopefully outlast him. If he is to continue, it would surely have to be a rolling contract. The fans won’t accept deterioration and more excuses.

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RoamingBull, Rene Artois

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Bill’s most sensible post yet.

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Just Iron

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Personally, I am all for moving on for the same of unity. However, I can’t help but notice the irony after Marco and Max regularly slagged off the Bru podcast for being ‘Swann lovers’ for the interviews of him, when their interview with Hilton was far more softball and now some have made similar accusations about them. Hopefully a lesson learned in how hard it is to interview such figures, and maybe they should have given Bru some slack in how they dealt with Swann.

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There are also others saying it won’t be. All rumours right now.

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If Jimmy can’t succeed with more money, I worry he would be struggle more than a competent manager with less.

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Deereyme66

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“a really nice guy and genuinely loves and wants the best for this football club”

There over 6,500 people like that at the game yesterday. I wouldn’t want any of them managing the team either!!

We need a fresh start with a fresh manager.

I will attend far less next season if JD stays as well. Mainly because his style bores me most of the time.

Scunny Bunny is a nice guy, does a lot to engage with the young. Let’s get him in.

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Deereyme66

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Disappointing to hear all these stories which come about as a result of a missed penalty at the end of season being able to watch a winning team. What if the lottery of penalties had worked for us, we would be looking forward to next Saturday. None of this ‘get him out’ talk. Let the dust settle before we make any hasty decisions , we have a habit in the past of changing managers regularly

We also might have had a better chance of a final if Dean didn’t make a poor team line-up, including an imbalanced left side and late substitutions. Of course, this is just opinion, but that didn’t help and is an issue which has been prevalent throughout the season.

We have a hasty decision to make, since his contract is running out in a month or so. Given the failure to achieve with one of the few full time squads at this level with the highest budget, coupled with uninspired performances for 2024 so far and many fans turning, I would say it’s too big a risk to offer him a new one. People might say that we should support the club regardless, but some on here and elsewhere are saying they may reduce their attended games because of him. It would be brave, maybe foolish, to offer him a contract extension in this context, when he has shown no success with a budget that should have seen us as performing better and achieving better results than we have. Especially since, if we underachieve again during next season. Patience with him will be lower and then we might have to think about paying him out of a contract because of a mistaken judgement during a time when we need as few costs as possible.

We tried this with Nick Daws, and it failed and cost us.

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Surely the irritation from many fans is known to them, and as it is a case of renewing a contract, Michelle and co will see it is not a positive move to extend. No matter what Elliott thinks.

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Adkins was promoted from within. Was that ‘inbred’?

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The HMS p**s the league stuff was rather irritating. Hopefully we’ll have less of that now.

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He also had this deep message;

‘I am of a different mind ten times in the course of a day. But I resist the devil, and often it is with a fart that I chase him away.’

And this:

‘Whoever does not worship my fart is guilty of a deadly sin and hell’

What a guy.

Martin Luther was an interesting chap, a man of his time, mostly right about the corruption and hypocrisy of the Catholic Church. That said, he was a rabble rouser and quite an antisemite with his tome ‘On the Jews and their Lies’ in which he called for the burning of Jewish schools and synagogues, destruction of Jewish books, confiscation of Jewish property and more. Another reason as to why idolisation and putting people on a pedestal shouldn’t happen.

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Tamworth managed it. It will be tough, but we can go again.

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At least we have Kiddy’s pies to look forward to.

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No subs until too late to influence in the second half. Overly cautious, few chances all game. Rubbish in the biggest game of the season.

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I agree, but not the first thing I’d have said. Sick as a pig.

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Just Iron

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OK. Thanks for letting me know that I shouldn’t waste my time.

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TwoWrights

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Yep. They would have been perfectly aware of how many fans they could attract to this game, so the idea they were the ones who had decided on only having the tickets on sale from the 25th seems fanciful. Where is the motivation? It would only drive fans away if it got too chaotic, and the club don’t want that.

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National League are really making some howlers:

https://twitter.com/tomhwilliams23/status/1782454242386591950

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I still don’t know why they would name drop the National League if it was actually some internal policy and risk escalating the situation over something which is cared about by you and few others. Get over it already, it’s not like we’re being led down the path by a con artist with ponzi schemes and stunts over the ground.

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One thing about offsides is at what frame do they decided it’s left the boot of the player. In those split seconds, the player looking for the ball could go from on to offside, so the moment they choose is vital. For these incredibly marginal calls, is it really worth this nitpicking over something where there will be margin for error? They are looking for a perfect call when there might not be one.

Before VAR no Man Utd fan would have grumbled about that Coventry goal for possible offside, since it was so marginal, except for the extremely biased. Others have said that it will be hard to shift, because there’s too much money and pride involved now. However, I can’t help but feel the spirit of the game has gone with this (as with other things, including replay scrapping). It would have been better if it was only used for the truly ridiculous, but it would have been hard to stop there with managers causing a fuss over the lesser incidents that would have missed.

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Just Iron, Awaywego

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The EFL didn’t make the playoff bye cock-up, which is what I was speaking about.

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Perhaps they could hire awaywego as a proof reader of the rules before making decisions, given they don’t seem to bother with them when making decisions until someone points to them after the initial decision. With his faith that the National League are consistent with their rulebook, he should impress at interview, since most other non-league fans are used to this shambolic decision making and take a dim view of them.

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Sounds an absolute mess. First the National League announces Solihull get the bye, now they rethink and give Altrincham the bye. Sounds like an organisation with a diligent attention to their rulebook and professionalism.

Altrincham have been informed they are the team to receive a bye to the National League semi-finals & not Solihull Moors as previously announced

Moors now host FC Halifax Town on Wednesday in the play-off eliminator the winner of that game faces Barnet on Saturday

— Thomas Feaheny (@ThomasFeaheny) April 21, 2024

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Awaywego

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Sheffield Utd came out against it, so it’s not all.

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TheJuryeffsOut

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I note that Brackley, Chelmsford and Worthing (the latter two finished 2nd and 3rd in NLS) don’t have tickets on sale yet. This really isn’t some big drama.

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