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“All the polls had her winning the US election”

The polls in 2016 may have had a pro-Clinton bias, even though the polls were within the margin of error, but this is a load of nonsense. Most polls had the last election as a 50/50, with some favouring Trump slightly. The one Selzer poll which suggested otherwise was an outlier. Now pro-free speech Trump has said he will go after her for an incorrect poll. Last time I checked, a crap poll isn’t a crime, nor should it be, and it’s bizarre to see people who claim to be pro-free speech to try and justify it with nonsense about election interference.

Also, the whole of the US media was on Harris’s side? Really? Even Fox News? Anyway, all outlets have some degree of bias and anyone pro-free speech wouldn’t be against an opposing viewpoint being aired, even if biased. Yet criticisms in the media are being muted through fears of Trump retaliating because of his own threats, which go against the free speech narrative.

Yes, some liberal outlets have been cloying and hostile to other views, but this isn’t the right alternative.

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The can is being kicked down the road. How much more can we take? This is abysmal to watch.

The board aren’t going to sack Butler after an improvement in form, 9 points from 9, while in second place and a point off top. Don’t be silly.

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BPG was right. The totalitarian state is shaping up*. :-)

*Exaggeration may be present in this post.

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My prediction is that Trump won’t turn out to be as bad as many fear, and he’ll be nowhere near as good as he’ll make himself out to be. As ever time will tell.

While talk of the end of American democracy is far too early, it’s important not to normalise authoritarianism and sheer corruption to appear balanced when Trump has replaced a politically neutral bureaucracy with his lackeys:

https://x.com/ariehkovler/status/1884167591306092718

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https://x.com/ironbru_net/status/1884143372253741458

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I wonder what the American leftists who took to twitter to say they’re not voting for ‘Holocaust Harris’ because Trump would be better for Gaza are thinking. Any self-reflection? Nahh.

The rhetoric is only going to get worse now, alas. Fortunately, this seems impossible to me, so it probably won’t happen.

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https://x.com/mgell1s/status/1883610262923866257

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It’s not, but it also involves being personable with those who share. If people are going to share stuff with me confidentially, I am not going to share it to the public. If I do, I betray their trust.

I was happy to not say anything on this, but threads had been started by others, so I joined in with the little I do know. You posted this saying the stadium walk disproves it, and my point is that it doesn’t convince me given what has been said and from who has been mentioned or screenshot. Of course you aren’t aware of this, so I don’t blame you for being sceptical. I just don’t think a walk, where people can swallow their issues, is a smoking gun that dispels the worries from some quarters.

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It’s not a matter of not criticising. Of course defensive errors need to be stamped out, but after improved performances and wins surely some positivity is allowed and being overly negative about defensive errors seems a bit much. As for fine margins, that happens across board. I don’t think it should detract from the positives though.

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I am not going to break confidentiality of who has told me because you think going round the stands disproves messages, including screenshots of what’s been said by people who are associated with the club (not snot).

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I will say that I don’t blame you for being sceptical of information that isn’t public. It’s just that I know where the talk is coming from and a show of unity doesn’t dispel it. Anyone can swallow pride to appear united if they think it will help with the fans, while hoping that it might rectify any splits. As I have said, I hope it does work.

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It may have been an error of judgement, but going to appear with the AfD (who have members who joke about Anne Frank being gassed to death and deny the Holocaust) to echo their propaganda doesn’t exactly dispel those suspecting his far-right sympathies.

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And it shows it’s not just snot as you claimed.

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(from more than one source)

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I think what I have been told is more reliable for an indication of what’s going on than a show. I am just hoping the attempt to show unity, despite it all, will kick some heads into gear and stop with the hostility behind the scenes.

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Butler is a young manager and has made mistakes. There has been deserved criticism, but sometimes not constructive criticism from some people, who have seemed dead set on him being an ‘imbecile’ and seem more bothered about being proved right on that. I am just pleased that we have had a start of what looks like a return to form, even with defensive errors needing to be stamped out. This league is the 6th tier for a reason, so such mistakes will be more common.

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Someone was fooled by the show.

My hope is that the attempt made some not so sharp people realise they’re better together and working as a team, but I am aware (from more than one source) that things have not been rosy, to say the least, recently.

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It’s exciting if anything else?

I remember when we were struggling to score, and having 0-0s with a back 5, there were complaints that we were too negative and statements that people would be happy with 4-3 wins because of the entertainment. We get more of that and there are still moans and groans.

Criticism is fair enough for game management, but we still won.

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Been told it’s with the technical support team due to the issues.

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Errors in getting it uploaded, so I have been told.

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https://x.com/mgell1s/status/1882790687126761876

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It’s worrying that it’s being entertained at all, and that destroys trust in anyone considering it. They might not be so sharp.

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I am surprised the low crowd didn’t bring 414 out of the woodwork, but I guess the win was enough to silence him until Saturday at least.

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wotnowbrncow wrote:

I know we live in a world where truth is fast becoming whatever most people are willing to believe rather than anything backed up by actual evidence but in my humble opinion, this is all nonsense.

The only tangible shred of evidence the bloke on twitter/X has provided is a link to Wikipedia page detailing what went on with myfootballclub 12 (TWELVE) years ago.

The website linked to the Wiki page (www.myfootballclub.co.uk) times out and seems abandoned, I can’t find an active site on the wayback machine (internet archive) for at least the last 6 years. Their Facebook page detailing their sponsorship of the might Slough Town hasn’t been updated since 2020.

By the 2012-13 season they had just 1300 members (source: The Guardian, interview with founder Will Brooks in 2017) hardly enough people to buy a football club at £35 a pop

According to the FCA website mutuals public register, Myfootball Club Society Limited (30275R) was deregistered on 17th March 2014.

I stress I have no knowledge of the inner working of the club so could always be wrong but on balance, based on the information I can find (and until anyone presents evidence to the contrary), this smells a lot like bovine excrement to me.

I agree. There have been whisperings of what is happening and none other than this guy on twitter have mentioned myfootballclub. As you say, myfootballclub has been quiet for years and I don’t know why it would restart now or why anyone would think it would be beneficial to the club or themselves.

There were past rumours under Hilton that had merit, but those came from people with some club links and Hilton had a Company’s House record that stank, giving reasons for concern. This doesn’t seem to have any trail beyond that twitter account.

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Awaywego wrote:

Cheers Siderite I see what you mean.

This is all rumour, it must be stressed. Could well be part of the wild guesswork from people hearing things and basing on grains of truth.

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Not sure if this is allowed, but this is the rumour being referenced. I will add that this is all a rumour so far as I know, so I am not claiming any knowledge on this bit.

https://x.com/billyb4wcb/status/1881862178640392663

https://x.com/billyb4wcb/status/1881995973498700174

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There’s more to it than that. 64 did give some hints when he spoke of the piggy who wants to be most equal. This is what is driving the claims of hostility.

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We seem to have a cushion to midtable, which is good and a surprise since we were told this was our limit based on preseason games.

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The term hostile comes from those who have heard or been told some details that make it appear as such. Without wanting to delve further to risk libel.

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I wonder which one is spearheading this current situation. Awaywego seems happy, but will he be once that comes out?

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