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No-one’s blaming him for selling the club, but people have lost all trust and are rather cynical of such explanations given his history of promises which never came to fruition and the fact this local consortium have been interested for months.

I am a bit sceptical that the local consortium got the money required at the very moment the other party pulled out.

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We don’t know everything, but I don’t think faffing around with some property developer for ages because he wouldn’t sell to a local consortium is the sign of someone who was acting just in the interests of the club. I think we can have some assumptions as to why it took so long for him to prioritise Elliott and Sharp.

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I would say that we should be aiming higher than Poland. We have a better squad.

Also, while Kane hasn’t scored, he has created and played quite well I think in coming back and dragging the ball forward. However, I realise the frustration of a non-scoring striker.

I don’t think Southgate is a bad manager for us. He’s probably been the best for decades. He deserves plaudits. I get bored of the binary nature of this. Either Southgate’s useless or he’s beyond criticism. I have concerns and I won’t be too happy if we struggle against stronger teams than Iran and Wales because of his flaws.

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Sidey, Ray Clemence is sadly no longer with us.

Thanks JI and NI. I completely forgot that he had passed away. I am expecting too much if his ghost to communicate! :-)

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With the things the way they are it’s a shame there’s little media attention. Maybe some famous ex-players/coaches could drum up some attention. Ian Botham won’t, with his club links, but what about Keegan and Clemence? Even some of our more recent stars like Billy Sharp and Nigel Adkins, maybe?

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Imagine having a 58 page thread on a rival team on your own forum. :-O

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I blame net zero. It’s at fault for everything, from this to the Chinese protests to FIFA deciding Qatar as a host nation for the world cup. :-)

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One of the things Southgate gets deserved plaudits is uniting the team. The ‘golden generation’ had too many uncontrolled egos and no coach with the strength of character to get them in check. This left them playing as individuals and the lack of team ethic cost us when we came across sides of quality.

I don’t think it’s all down to Gareth, I think the last decade or so of not feeding the egos of our players, not telling them they’re the best in the world like we did with Gerrard, Beckham and Lampard, has helped lead to a greater team spirit too. However, I don’t think it’s just that. We still played like a bunch of ill fitting donkeys long after the ‘golden generation’ retired. Kyle Walker said that one of the first things Southgate did was to get the players together and make everyone feel welcome, getting them to bond as a team a lot better, without the cliques. Lampard did say that during his time this wasn’t done and everyone seemed to keep to their club and not converse with those from others, plus he wanted to one-up Gerrard. This was the mentality within England. I think Southgate has removed this mentality and deserves plaudits for how he has united the squad.

My question is how he handles big games strategically, and picking of favourites. He might say it’s loyalty, but there aren’t any excuses for leaving Foden or Rashford on the bench now so Sterling can put in another lacklustre performance.

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9 goals in the group stage, similar to the last world cup. More goals than England scored at the 2014 (2), 2010 (3), 2006 (6) and 2002 (6) world cups put together. But, sure, Southgate’s a negative, defensive manager who plays with the handbrake on.

To be fair, Sven was very negative in his mindset, and the 2010 and 2014 squads were poor and mismanaged.

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Personally, I think the main division is less over Brexit now within Labour and more about Corbyn backers and non-Corbyn backers. The troublesome ones are those who are more Corbyn inclined, along with the odd ambitious sort like Andy Burnham, who will position himself any old how to get some backing.

Getting the Labour Party to unite has always been difficult.

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If it doesn’t suit Bucks’s agenda it’s a conspiracy.

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More like it. Rashford and Foden have to start now. No excuses for reverting to Sterling and Saka. I like Saka, but he was poor against the USA, the former two deserve a place more, and Sterling shouldn’t have been starting in the first place.

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More word twisting. Yawn.

Of course I realise what the joke was. The simple point is that it’s not relevant to valid critique of Brexit.

I don’t particularly care, I was just saying the joke is a bit off point. 64 raised valid concerns which are not as absurd as blaming Chinese protests on brexit.

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Yes, it’s completely ridiculous of me to point out that trade problems and the like have anything to do with Brexit. How silly of me. Saying reduced exports to our biggest trading partner has a thing to do with Brexit is like blaming the Chinese protests on Brexit. You’re very correct.

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Yes, everyone against you is a conspiratorial villain. There is no such thing as good faith disagreement. Everyone is against you.

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Well, it comes across that way when you try and claim that reasonable and connected concerns about Brexit from 64 are akin to blaming Brexit for the China protests.

Meanwhile everything in the UK is hunky dory and we have those great trade deals on our own terms, no red tape and sunlit uplands, as we were promised.

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I heard the London lot were property developers, which didn’t sound promising, but were there any other rumours about them and where can I see them?

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Ok, fair. I take back my comments about them being dressed as such and apologise to Bucks. Though, I do think their attire is commonly interpreted as such and this is obviously where the controversy lies.

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How are you not aware that people dressed in chain mail with the cross of St George are commonly dressed as Crusaders or at least it could be interpreted as such? How are you unaware that Arabic nations see this as offensive? Rightly or wrongly, Arabs will see it as Crusader attire

Now, I don’t agree with why they get so irate about it. I have already stated that I am uncomfortable with the idea of banning it, before you start your usual straw manning. It was 1000 years ago, the emotion should be long worn, but the idea the attire has nothing to do with the Crusades is just daft and ignorant.

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Desperate from Bucks. He’s not talking about outlandish far off concerns.

Well done 64 for being able to change his mind.

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You seem to trust his judgement on Starmer following his manifesto. Yet Starmer has said nothing about cutting immigration numbers, like UKIP would. The manifesto Farage is talking about says he would enact a five year school ban on migrants. Starmer is not for this.

We can disagree on Starmer’s immigration policy, and I am not overly keen on it, without saying it’s like UKIPs. That’s a line by Farage to try and undermine the government and escalate Labour infighting.

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His work on workers’ rights is commendable. Best keep him off the topic of Russia.

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Interesting you trust Farage about this. Whatever you think about Starmer on this, his immigration policy is not a UKIP one.

Also, Nick Griffin endorsed Corbyn.

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Wright has had some appalling abuse, and that is condemnable, and has problems at home which should generate sympathy. However, if he is unable to do his role at the moment because of these things, a temporary fan director or representative should be there in his stead.

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lol, yeah. A lifelong anti-racism campaigner (I presume Corbyn) who pals with those who say Jews drink the blood of Christian children, says he has valuable things to say without questioning such speak, lays wreaths for terrorists involved with killing Jews, fights to keep up murals of crude Jewish caricatures, says Jews don’t get British irony and turned a blind eye to the stuff which permeated Labour during his time. That doesn’t seem very anti-racist to me.

I don’t need my ‘Blairite pals’ to tell me anything. My opinion was not formed on what anyone else said or did. Just Corbyn’s own actions and words. Same with many leftists. You only have to go on some leftist spaces to see what a sewer it is, as Baddiel and many others pointed out. I don’t need my ‘Blairite pals’ to tell me stuff like face huggers with the star of David around the statue of Liberty’s face is anti-Semitic. Yet such stuff, and worse, are commonly found in some leftist quarters.

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Just Iron

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I thought the podcast was good, but none of Baddiel’s hypocrisy takes away from the message he was saying about anti-Semitism. This hasn’t just been said by Baddiel, and there’s a lot of hypocrisy on the left who have made it clear how much they have disdain for Jews.

At least Baddiel made an apology. Ash Sarkar, Bastani and co will continue to bask in their own bigotry.

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The USA were better than us because they have a coach who has them well drilled and playing to their strengths. Ours doesn’t seem to know how to use any creative talent and wastes what we do have.

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Yes, criminalising people for who they are is just small fry. What really matters are upset theists for being called out for being horrible to others. Won’t someone think of their hurt feelings?

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Couldn’t give a stuff about ‘cultural or religious beliefs’ if they impact others. We care too much about hurt feelings because of people’s beliefs being offended.

As for chain mail, I can see why it’s offensive. Not because of Christianity, but because of the Crusades. That said, as alluded to above, I am not sure if there is a strong moral case for banning it, even if I wouldn’t have done it and find it eye roll worthy.

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