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Yep, another desperate, ridiculous post from BI in denial of reality. It’s the main problem with the Tories as a party, and it’s the main problem with their most ardent followers.
They open their mouths and people just start laughing with incredulity at how detached they are. They can’t gaslight people now – it no longer works. The suffering has been brought to everybody’s door, and it just won’t do to keep on lying and pretending the government is doing a good job.
With the NHS, everyone can see how the government is underfunding it, in order to run it down, claim it’s not working, and use that as an excuse for privatisation. Well, just imagine how big the premiums and bills would be for those unfortunate enough to have poor health – mental or otherwise – or the outrageous fortune to suffer a bad accident.
Do you know the prime reason for bankruptsy in the USA, BI? It’s the inability to pay medical bills.
It’s obvious to all how these factors can contribute to people’s poor mental health. But, then what happens? They end up paying another bill for treatment for depression/stress/anxiety and all its related manifestations – alcoholism, gambling, etc!
And there you are, with issues of your own, advocating precisely the kind of political and economic measures which just make it all worse! You really do need help, BI. But, the good news is that treatment is still free at the point of delivery.
Strange, isn’t it, how hardly anyone wants to mention the B-word now. Maybe it’s because everyone knows they’ve been well and truly ‘had’ by the likes of jonnie-ten-names and his dad, but most are too proud to admit it.
Stewart Lee tries to make sense of what happened…
And here’s another thing. BI, your duplicity knows no bounds. Post-prawn, on the other board you’re frantically virtue-signalling your concern for mental health, depression, addiction, etc.
To your credit, you have commented before about your own problems. But despite this, many of your brother Tories would say to you ‘Snap out of it Bucksiron, control yourself! And if you don’t, it’s your own fault for being so feckless. Just take responsibility, show some effin’ backbone and get a grip, man!’
It’s the position of classic neo-liberalism. It claims you are responsible for your own actions, that you can ‘just say no’ to all sorts of ailments and temptations, whether they are in a bottle, a brothel or a betting shop. Something has made you like this, and what you’ve learned, you can unlearn. So get on with it, and take back control.
Yet, your own direct experience tells you that it’s more complicated, especially the causes.
Let’s look at this more closely. For example, have you ever reflected on the insecurity and anxiety caused by the removal of social safety nets and employee rights? Or, how it feels to go to work while also needing a foodbank or after begging for Universal Credit? Have you ever paused to consider the stress it causes when people suddenly can’t pay their mortgage or energy bills, and have to beg their supplier not to cut them off, or the way it makes them feel they can’t support their families at Xmas, and are only one payday from destitution?
The material effects are bad enough, but the psychological effects are incalculable.
Just ask any doctor.As you know very well, being in control of your own brain and behaviour isn’t always an option, so people need help. But now just consider the difficulty in obtaining it. The waiting times, the lack of resources, the staff leaving the caring professions – the nurses who have left the UK after Brexit, the junior doctors who are leaving because the conditions are so god-awful bad that it’s making them ill, and the carers who can’t afford to care because the pay is so low it’s better to be stacking shelves, or flippin’ burgers. Then, there’s the humiliation of discussing your pathetic finances in order to qualify for UC.
But, mental health is not just about financial and medical resources. Communities themselves bring important social benefits. Alas, they too have largely disappeared from many areas. Just witness the decimation of South Yorks when the mines closed without a proper exit plan of ‘what next?’. When the work went, so did the informal network of care and support through the proximity of friends, relatives and workmates. A community who would talk, lend a hand and chip in, when times got tough. And in its absence the results are there for all to see, particularly in high levels of crime, and of physical and mental illness.
So, when it comes to the contradiction between sound mental health and your support for small state, unbridled free markets, small pensions/benefits, and of course Brexit, you haven’t a leg to stand on, because the economic and social effects brought about by all these are literally driving you and many others mad, BI.
But there’s a solution. For happier, healthier communities, you just need to take responsibility, get a grip and never, ever, vote for the blue lot again.
Goood stuff, DM.
Alfie Mooore may also be of interest, a former Humberside cop now doing stand-up.December 27, 2022 at 9:34 am in reply to: The tories energy crisis caused by corrupt and bad planning? #251191That’s true. When the government withdrew support back in the 80s there was little notice and no exit plan. It was like the withdrawal from Iraq, and the result was similar. Descent into disorder, in-fighting a breakdown of community, and ultimately a decimated, depressed area with no real future. Hopelessness and misery sit side by side, and local folk are easy prey for demagogues; in the case of South Yorks., ones like Farage.
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Has Ernest got a bet on?
Had he bet on the Iron to lose every game in the last 4-5 seasons he’d be laughing!..Death penalty for who?
Come on BPG, that’s such a poor, cheesy answer. (Just camouflage for something much darker, I think.) It sounds like you’re happy to let politics trump religion.
HE will not be impressed, especially on his son’s birthday.But here’s a way to repent. You could move to the Middle East, open a deli. and call it ‘Cheeses of Nazareth’!
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Are you in favour of the death penalty, Bill?
Or in the absence of a buyer, the club is simply wound up, and the assets (players, stadium, land) sold off to cover losses. A bit like taking an old banger off the road, parting it out, and flogging anything useful on Fleabay.
Bill, it’s no use holding up your cross and ranting like some medieval priest against the devil!
Just answer the question about why many of the pro-life lobby declare that abortion is morally wrong, but the death penalty is not.1 user thanked author for this post.
Gurnelista – “ So why do so many of them support the death penalty?”
The answer to THIS question is that God ( who has reaveled His prescriptive will in the “ God breathed” inspired,inerrrant and sufficient Scriptures) is a JUST GOD.
So, you don’t know, then.
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Aye, what happened to the ‘sound businessman’ schtick?
Looking through the Maguire posts it seems likely that both Swann and Apollo knew for some time there was a problem. Others must have known too. But for whatever reason, nothing was done about it.A “ genuine Christian “ has no other position to take ,other than supporting pro-life.
So why do so many of them support the death penalty?
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And now, all the way from Conisborough, Denaby and district, for one night only live in Tesco’s…. it’s… the Reytons!
It’s difficult to know where to start with this, coming from a member of one of the oldest, most privileged and supposedly most respected institutions of this country which has had repeated and ongoing scandals involving racism.
To begin… Hussey didn’t just ask about origins. The black woman told Hussey where she was from, but Hussey pursued it in an offensive manner. Would Hussey have pursued it with a red-head with an apostrophe in her surname, or a prefix of ‘Mac’, if she’d said she was from London? Of course not.
The problem with Hussey is that she probably didn’t realise she was behaving in a racist way, because she’s been doing it all her life. But times have changed, we’ve moved on, and it is a problem now, and time to learn about it.
Oh, but she was elderly, they say. So, what is officially the age at which it’s permitted to be racist? Is it OK if you’re over 70 to move a black woman’s hair and tell her you don’t believe her when she says she’s from London? Or should it be 65.5, maybe? 60, anyone??
Perhaps it’s the same with yourself, JI. You see it as OK because you’ve been doing it all your life, and on top of that you’ve been persuaded and gaslit into thinking it’s OK by the likes of Farage and other Kippers, as well as black people in the cabinet who claim white privilege doesn’t exist.
Yet, racism is all around us. Show me a white footballer whose skin colour is brought into the discussion if he misses a penalty in an England shirt! And we end up talking about stuff like this woman’s conversation, which is trivial in itself, but so very serious. Why? Because it’s symptomatic of the epic inequality – social, racial and financial – even in institutions which claim to represent us, which is at the root of so many of this country’s problems. We should be ashamed.
Starmer sees the next election as his cup final. He’ll do whatever it takes to beat the Tories and at whatever price.
But the pair weren’t stopped entering the ground because of what they were wearing. According to the Mail it was because they were carrying swords.
A variation of the story appeared in the Express (below). Again, no names provided, just allegations. The last line says it all, with “if (the story) is to be believed…”.
In all probability it was a media stunt, created to sell papers and give the impression Qatar is awful (because this is what many think), when in fact the country supports pretty much everything the Mail and Express stand for – few human rights, disregard for immigrants and massive inequality, unless you happen to be a Qatari male.
It’s classic tabloid hypocrisy and double standards.
Aye, blame the foreigner!
With Qatar tho’, the Mail/Express are over a barrel. On the one hand, it’s Islamic and denies its people many rights enjoyed by westerners. But on the other, it’s non-woke. So any criticism of the country leaves the paper open to criticising itself and its editorial line. Anti-LBGTQ? Hoorah! Tough and repressive on law n order? Hooorah? Misogynist? Hooorah? Tax-free? Hooorah! Death penalty? Hooorah, Right-wing media praising right-wing leaders and cancelling the left? Hooorah!
How could the Tory press argue with any of that? So a non-story/stunt involving sword-bearering fans being refused entry to the stadium is its limit.
In reality this is a non-story, because everyone knows you can’t enter a stadium with an imitation sword in Qatar, any more than you can here!
But evidence suggests it was deliberately staged by a newspaper, to give themselves a headline and stir up their impressionable readers.
See how there are no names tied to the story, only claims, allegations, and apparently posts on social media. In other words, the journalist himself probably posted some rubbish somewhere, then reported his own comments for the article, and invented comments from other fans.
It’s nothing new. Pre-Brexit, the Mail did similar things with complete fictions about the EU. And, they do it now, inventing stories about likely to anger their readers – about ‘woke’ stuff, Markle, migrants, striking teachers, doctors….
British media at their very worst. They should carry a health warning.
That’s right. And, in a club like ours an academy is a community asset which develops young players not just in the footballing sense but in a wider more social sense, especially as schools are so stressed at present and unable to dedicate time to talent, and to those lacking in soft skills, such as following instructions, helping your team mates, dealing with disappointment, etc etc. A recent tv documentary showed this in action at Crystal Palace, who under chairman Steve Parish, are exemplars of how to do this.
Oh, and as for parental wealth, cars and academies, I don’t think you can assess anybody’s wealth from a glance at their wheels. And, there are plenty of youths with special needs – social or otherwise – from wealthy families, as any teacher will tell you.
It’s so often the case that the party in power lose elections, rather than the opposition winning them.
I would fully agree with this Gurnelista, I would think that there was a 15 to 20% swing to Labour after the Truss handling of her few weeks in number 10.
But why do so many Brits have no problem with all these thousands of drop outs
Because they don’t inhale nonsense from the right-wing media, who all want you to blame the foreigner rather than Tory incompetence which they have ushered into power in the first place.
Let me put it another way – why are you so concerned about people who weren’t actually born in the UK, when the kind of problems besetting people like yourself in North Lincs. are the chaotic health service, emergency services, boarded-up shops, inflation and energy bills, and the lack of support given by the government to people like yourself, often through a labour shortage which immigration can mitigate.
Knackered northern towns are beginning to resemble war zones, and you, your family and community are being terrorised by this government’s incompetence and negligence. Yet, you seem unwilling to call them out on it. Why?
It is, indeed, very funny how people want us to trust their predictions. You’re absolutely correct that in 20 years they still say we need to wait. That goes for climate every bit as much as it goes for finance. They’re both non-deterministic systems with a huge number of variables, which makes predicting them in any way that is remotely accurate 100% impossible.
And that is precisely why it is essential to err on the side of caution with anything as potentially calamitous as climate change.
Your problem is tha there’s no evidence that will ever convince you BI, because you don’t want to be convinced.
It reminds me of those folk who had strong religion as children, which stays with them through adulthood. No argument will ever persuade them that their beliefs might be silly, childish, contradictory or plain wrong. That’s because they don’t want to be persuaded. The facts become irrelevant, and belief is all.
Put simply, people with such beliefs haven’t been reasoned into them, so they can’t be reasoned out of them.
It’s a mindset commonly found in cults. It can be disturbing but it’s mostly harmless, for example those gentle folk of the ‘Sounds Like Rain’ videos. The exception is when it involves violence, like with terrorism – political or religious.
So, the question is whether your manifest ‘belief’ over climate can be explained as cultish, or whether it’s just a posture adopted for political reasons. The evidence would suggest the latter – a PR background, the record in gaslighting, and of course the far-right politics… and when you were little and impressionable, we can imagine global warming wasn’t a ‘thing’ you were forced to deny.
But, there is another possibility. After being so wrong about so much for so long – support for Trump, Johnson, the Tories, Brexit, Swann, climate change and assorted other issues, it must be pretty galling to see all your cherished beliefs confounded and smashed at every turn. To admit this must make the holder feel nothing short of ridiculous, a laughing stock, a clown-car of values and arguments, the wrongest person in wrongland! But denial is one way of dealing it. So, which assumption is correct, BI?
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“Disadvantaged? Not around Scunthorpe… have you seen the cars parked up on Sunday mornings? It’s very much a middle class domain nowadays.”
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Being able to afford an old Mercedes doesn’t make the owner middle class, SOS! Same if the Merc is spanking new and fresh off the forecourt. Money and social background are completely different things.
My point was that as well as producing the occasional professional player, the club’s academy has an important role in the community. It’s different for a worldwide brand like MCFC which, apart from producing the occasional world-class player, also does other things like generate international interest in the club, which is important for merchandising, tv, etc. and (probably) has other financial advantages, such as tax.
It’s so often the case that the party in power lose elections, rather than the opposition winning them.
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Thing is BS, you’re playing the government’s game here. As an older person living up north, you’re probably quite if not very dependent on the state for a pension, for hospitals, doctors, nurses and maybe social care too, as well as emergency services like ambulances if you’re suddenly unwell, or police if you have a burglary, etc. You also want your kids to have opportunities to travel, work, and generally make their way in the world.
Because all these are being cut to the bone or no longer available, you’re basically being attacked by your own government. Your health will suffer, your security will suffer, your finances will suffer, as will the wellbeing of those around you.
Of course, the government doesn’t want you to complain, particularly about them, after 12 years of incompetence. It would rather you moaned about something else….. like foreign workers who want to come here to do the kinds of jobs mentioned above!
But this perspective isn’t one you’ll get in the distorted lens of the right wing media… no, they’ll encourage you to look away from parliament and focus on ‘illegal’ kids in dinghies, rather than how much the government is attacking you and your community with economic incompetence and terrorism.
Think about it BS, when you’re walking past the boarded-up town centre, and see people scurrying along from the charity shop to the pound shop to the food bank to the warm bank, think just how much it resembles a war zone. These are the real problems in your life, and they have their origin not in far away countries, but in Downing St.
I think Matt Dean probably meant that you need to look at the wider social and personal benefits of academies, rather than just the miniscule chance of a player signing a professional contract. For example, teaching youngsters to keep fit and active, as well as learning basic transferable skills like following instructions, learning how to deal with setbacks, empathising with others and so on, ‘soft’ skills but important ones, which will stay with them a lifetime.
Many of the kids passing through academies aren’t the most successful at school and often come from disadvantaged families where these skills aren’t sufficiently developed. But, learning them through football gives them a chance to grow in ways they may not have done otherwise.
Clubs have a broader social and sporting responsibility to their communities than just providing a match every other Saturday. This was part of sport’s original mission, before it became a business. Academies are one way in which they still fulfil these, and as such they’re a valuable community asset.
https://www.wemakefootballers.com/news/the-social-benefits-of-football-for-children
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And rightly so, if the claims are based on nothing, and just personal opinion, like we often see on here.
However, the claims made in the book about the royals are almost all backed up with sources where the information first appeared. Some are so detrimental to their image there would be grounds for lawsuits, had proof not been available.
I suspect it’s already too late.
The developing countries are picking up the tab for our profligacy with failed crops, dried up water supplies, rising sea levels, uninhabitable areas of land and more. But perhaps the most significant causal factor is prejudiced, ridiculous and inadequate armchair polemicists along with a powerful right-wing lobby, who for years have denied what was happening, ignored the science or vacillated over what to do.
Nothing will ever convince them, because they are cultists. They are not interested in the science, and as such should be ignored.
Aye, it applies to a lot of the forelock-tuggers up here, where forelocks tend to be very long….
It’s a strange thing, and quite a British one. People vote for all kinds of daft reasons, but maybe this has its roots in class and a way of thinking which says ‘I identify as middle-class so I should vote Tory’ or ‘The Tories were born to rule, unlike that Labour Party hoi polloi, which are no better than me’ or something similar, even though it means they’ll make themselves worse off.
Turkeys and Chrismas spring to mind.
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