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Hard to argue with any of it.
Id argue the ground’s current state is not just the fault of the Swann’s though, but a collective neglect from past regimes.
Should’ve been modernised 15 years ago.
It’s not so much it needs modernising, it just needs proper upkeep. Repairing or upgrading the scoreboard, a lick of fresh paint (remember the tatty flags at the first game of the season?), putting some more drains in in the car park, upgrading the catering points: all of these are things which could and should have been done in recent years, rather than signing yet another striker who never gets a game.
A new ground was never needed – a bit of TLC for GP was more important.
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Yeovil Town anyone?
Pretty much! Southend and Grimsby were regulars in the Championship around 15 years ago too.
One of the main problems is the continuing lack of experience on the pitch.
Old salts may possibly be able to take the pressure but youngsters having to constantly face defeat will eventually wither.
As I pointed out in a different post – the key moment on Saturday was the Rochdale first goal. Young heads finally dropped – there was no denying it and those with only very limited experience really were no better.Lack of experience?
Watson, 26, nearly 100 league games
Ross Millen, 27, getting on for 200 league games
Onarise, 25, getting on for 100 league games
Delaney, 25, 100 league games
Grant, 34, 500 games
Feeney, 35, 400 gamesThat’s more than half the team who not inexperienced.
Personally, I think that you’re being too forgiving on older players and too harsh on the youngsters – the likes of Burns, Rowe & O’Malley have been some of the brighter sparks in our team this year. Aside from Watson, none of the older heads listed above have shone particularly.
One issue is that you cannot hope to make progress with players all over the pitch who lack creativity and are just continuity players, at best.
A smattering of flair players acts as a catalyst and through their presence belief builds amongst the rest.I fully agree on this but to achieve it you also need some sort of system and a plan and we seem to be lacking both of those.
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I mean, it might do, but I don’t see how it’s any different to when we had Cox and we were told it wouldn’t do any good because no manager could improve things under Swann.
Well if nothing else, that has been proven to be true!
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Apparently it’s breaking the rules Ferrite but then again so is lobbing flares, they had a go at both on Saturday.
Ok, when did football fans become so keen on rigid enforcement of rules?
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I’m completely unconvinced by Hill: his record is even worse than Cox’s, performances are no better, we still can’t score, he changed half the squad in January seemingly just for the sake of it and his selections are increasingly confusing.
Then his interview on Saturday was very odd: blaming the referee for our defeat (I’ve not heard a single fan complain about the ref), blaming the embargo, telling fans we have to be realistic. Well, sorry Keith, we know we’re going down to the Conference, that’s our reality, but it doesn’t mean we have to be happy about it or settle for it.
Personally, at this rate, I think we’d be better off with a new manager in the summer for a fresh start in non-league.
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When did we get so precious about the pitch? Who cares if a few people come on the pitch to celebrate a goal?
Signings for signings sake.
We’d have over-stretched ourselves massively in the Championship trying to keep up and would have been even more screwed by now.
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That’s because he sat everybody behind the ball and crossed his fingers that we robbed a flukey goal.
Are we really in a position where we can be picky about how we pick up points?
Swann’s fault for keeping him on as long as he did. If we got Hill much earlier on, we’d be a lot better off than we are.
Hill’s got the same number of points in more games; why are you so convinced he’d have changed things if he’d been here sooner?
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One thing that as improved is the time it takes to get out of the car park at the end of games. Used to sometimes take about an hour not anymore with so few attending games. Well done Mr ?.
Is that because all pedestrians are funnelled into a narrow footpath by barriers giving priority for a handful of cars coming from the premium parking spaces?
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I feel sorry for Pugh but I’m not sure it will make too much difference to the team.
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No the land didn’t already belong to the club, oh what a missed opportunity all that land the owners at that time could have bought and leased it out for all the retail outlets that are there now,even the land the other side of the road where Tesco’s is was up for grabs that would have kept the club going with all that rental potential.
I agree with you on that but I think the training ground land you’re talking about is the plot between the offices & the M181? In which case, wasn’t that already part of the clubs’ estate and used for training when the pitch was suitable?
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I think it’s an all weather pitch now isn’t it? Rather than the old boggy field. Under Wharton, the club trained down at Gunness most of the time, I think?
Swanny acquired the land next to the stadium and turned it into the training ground
Did that land not already belong to the club?
Why is it called the “National League” now and not the Conference? How can you have a national league where two-thirds of it is regionalised?
The drop came when Cox was kept on at the end of last season
Possibly although his record is better than Hill’s at this stage of the season.
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I thought the gents on the podcast were quite generous in their assessment of a transfer window which saw us sign a bunch of unfit, out-of-favour players at the last moment who have, so far, not made much of a positive impact on the pitch.
NLN:
Boston
Chester
Darlington
Hereford
Kidderminster
YorkI think I’m right in saying that all of these clubs, aside from possibly the last two, had to reform after bankruptcy. Stockport have come back from the Conference North too.
You never see a poor bookie and they have got us at 1/12 ON for relegation. I’m surprised it’s not even shorter odds!
https://m.skybet.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/event/27826786
Hippolyte has been woeful apart from the upturn in form when Hill first arrived.
What did he do apart from that rather short spell when he was playing well?
He was our best outfield player this season and while he wasn’t flawless (missed penalty v. Newport springs to mind) he was head & shoulders above the rest of this team mates in those positions and had been playing well since before Hill arrived (Crawley at home, for example) since being moved into the middle of midfield.
Feeney might be a better player in the long run, maybe Sinclair will, but getting rid of one player who was playing well and replacing him with a couple of players who have yet to contribute anything seems a strange decision when you need points urgently.
I know he’s not the best centre back around, otherwise he wouldn’t be playing for us and it’s not his fault he can’t pass the ball very well but there’s no real excuse for giving away such daft penalties.
I like that he is clearly trying to make up for mistakes (both his and other players’), just stay on your feet Manny!
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There’s a middle ground where I believe people can still support the club and yet still be in opposition to the hierarchy.
I would like to believe that but I’m not sure how you can show your dissatisfaction with the ownership whilst still turning up to games and handing over your hard-earned? Because money is what really counts.
I must admit, it’s very strange to see how apathetic supporters are at home games – virtually no protests, just a resigned acceptance.
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Bet they are on less money though?
I can’t imagine Hippolyte was a particularly big earner when you look at where he came from, when he was signed and then compare him to the players who have come in.
Clubs that bounce back tend to do so within the first couple of seasons after relegation. Beyond that, it gets much more difficult. Anyone reckon we’ll be competitive in the Conference next season?
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Manny got the ball
For the first of the second one?
Not convinced yet by any of the new signings, aside from Grant. Are Feeney or Sinclair really an upgrade on Hippolyte? Not yet they aren’t.
The ref from the Arsenal game last night would have had him walking – that was a good decision imo
Yeah I don’t know why that was controversial. Clear as day to me.
You’re right about Labadie.
We were down to 10 men, what did you expect us to do ?
I’d still rather have Hill rather than Cox.
Hill may well be better than Cox, time will tell.
But we were absolutely terrible for the first hour, especially the first 20 minutes.
Cox only got the results he did because he sat everybody behind the ball and crossed his fingers the opposition strikers had a massive off day and we got a lucky one from a dead ball situation.
Exactly how is that different from last night? That’s literally how we won.
I’ll reserve judgement on Hill; so far, I’m not particularly impressed because I can’t really see much of a plan but let’s hope it comes as his new signings bed in & get up to fitness.
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