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Nuttal is only one goal off being the seasons top scorer i believe thats a shambolic stat
I think he’s got 2? And Loft & Hippo both got 4.
APB’s post makes for a pretty sobering but realistic read. It’s hard to see a short-term way out of this hole.
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… a spade in the ground for even one new stand would reassure me that we have a future.
Couldn’t give less of a fig about renovating GP, it’s fine, apart from some fresh paint, a new scoreboard and maybe an Iron Bar extension, it doesn’t need much doing to it. Instead, we need to be looking at our youth system, which will support the club in future seasons, getting things right on the pitch and getting people through the turnstiles.
However, what I find frustrating is that when Cox was here people, including yourself, were asking what good would sacking a manager do, no-one else can do any better under the conditions of the board. Now Hill is not given the same benefit of the doubt.
You’re right that sacking Cox was one of the few levers available to us at the time. But I think we should definitely question the manager appointment process: when was the last time that the club interviewed for the manager’s position? How do we know we’re doing all we can to get the best person for the job? What criteria are being applied in deciding who the next manager will be?
Your point about “Hill not being given the same benefit of the doubt” is a fair one, you’re right about that. However, 13 points from 23 is an even worse return than we saw under Cox and he’s had half a season now, so it’s a fair sample size, so I think it’s right that questions are asked, as you said yourself.
Anyway, it’s all a bit of a case of rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic given our current situation and the way the club has been run over the best part of a decade.
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As I understand it the loan will become a grant in the summer, and won’t need to be paid back. Most clubs didn’t take it due to the conditions attached to it.
As I understand it, the loan still has to be paid back but the transfer restrictions don’t apply after the first year – that was how I interpreted Simon Elliott’s explanation on Humberside.
Be interesting to see in the next accounts how much the loan is costing us in terms of monthly repayments.
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It’s all ifs and buts though Ferrite TBF, we may have been 15 points adrift under Cox, who knows? Best not to beat yourself up too much about it mate, what’s done is done and Swann is and has always been since Alexander was sacked, the man to blame.
But this is basically my point – pretty much all of us thought getting rid of Cox would improve us and it clearly hasn’t. We know that the problem lies above the manager, so we should recognise that maybe Cox wasn’t doing a bad job given his record is notably better than Hill’s.
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A bit too late though, at least the ref was fairer second half after the first half when we only had one free kick.
Fairer? You don’t win many free kicks if you don’t havs the ball.
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It’s all very well saying “we need you now” and begging fans to come along but it’s not going to wash with most people. That’s the opposite of how it’s felt for much of the last 8-9 years. Apart from asking nicely, what is the club doing to get more people into the ground?
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Linked doesn’t mean they have killed anybody, also has the Newcastle owners personally killed anybody
How many people do you think Hitler & Stalin killed with the bear hands? Just because they didn’t pull the trigger doesn’t mean that their reputations are spotless!
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This has come far too late, he should never have been allowed to buy Chelsea in the first place. A read on how he gained his wealth is particularly eye-opening.
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Never said Grant was brilliant Ferrite and I respect your point but overall he has been good and yes maybe he didn’t get back a couple of times, is that fitness or couldn’t give a toss?, personally I would say fitness, he works hard in midfield compared to others and at 34 probably feels his legs after 70 minutes. Don’t think it makes him crap but it’s just my opinion.
Don’t disagree with any of that, my point is simply that we completely tore up our squad at the end of January with something like 8 or 9 new signings and, really, only one or two of them have actually improved the squad and even the good ones haven’t really pulled up any trees. I don’t really see what the point was – we finished December with a fine away win at Oldham and a team that finally looked like it could do something, so what did we do? Immediately decided to sell Loft and by the time we played Oldham at home only TWO players started who had also started the away game.
I get that the embargo and the (lack of) budget meant that it was difficult to sign players but a lot of them feel like signings for the sake of making signings. Pyke & Nuttall vs. Loft & Jarvis? Sinclair & Feeney over Hippolyte & Green? Let’s be right, all of those are steps backwards.
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Let’s be clear about why we’re going down. It has nothing to do with pies running out or poor replica shirts.
Sell more stuff => Make more money => Invest in facilities & team.
So, actually, that is a contributing factor. If we were getting another 500 people through the gates – and selling pies & shirts is absolutely linked to that – do you really think we’d have quite such a basement bargain first team squad?
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Hill is not to blame for this mess IMO. It’s no secret he wanted more players to leave in January, but he couldn’t get them out, plus incomings were always going to be difficult especially when sat bottom of the league and under an embargo. I honestly look at his days at Rochdale where he did a very good job for them over a good few seasons and he got Tranmere to the playoffs in this division. The manager isn’t the problem here IMO.
Hill’s not the main problem, no doubt about that, but the fact we still don’t have any sort of attacking plan and still don’t look anything like a team is down to coaching – or lack of it. When did we last score from open play? Bristol Rovers?
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I will cut him a huge amount of slack this season. There was only so much you can do with a very limited budget. They club and Hill performed very well shipping so many out in January. Yes granted the players brought in have not set the world alight with winning football but he bought in players (Feeney and Grant) we probably wouldn’t have been able to get in otherwise had it not been for his influence.The damage had already been done in the last 3 or 4 windows with the plethora of low quality cheap signings Swann allowed us. Mark my words in the Vanarama next season,this is where you will see Hills quality as a manager where I fully expect at very least a solid season of stability.
None of the players we signed in January have shown anything that suggests they’re better than the players who left in January. Some might point to Grant but he’s had some crap games too. Feeney doesn’t seem to have offered much, the two strikers look woefully out of touch and Sinclair isn’t much better. Delaney at a push? That’s about it.
I’ve seen absolutely nothing from Hill in his 20-odd games to suggest he’s got a plan for this team. If anything, we’ve gone backwards since his first few matches in charge.
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Just seen itv coverage of the Boreham Wood chairman and the way by comes across in the support of his club,his manager,staff and players.Why can’t we have one like this?
I dunno, some of things he comes out with sound quite familiar….
https://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/club-chairman-hits-out-at-own-fans/170395
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