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Deereyme66 wrote:

Never thought we’d be playing against them again in a league match.

We aren’t – it’s a NON-league match!

lesgeo wrote:

They are like politicians being interviewed when they would love to tell the whole truth about their party’s new policy on parsnips or whatever.
Unfortunately, stepping out of line will anger the whips who will then ensure their deselection and months/years of misery and persecution up to that point.

Consequently, they utter platitudes and desperately attempt not to say anything meaningful.

I understand what you’re saying BUT Nigel Adkins always managed to leave you feeling positive & upbeat no matter how bad the defeat and the size of the challenge when competing in the Championship. Keith Hill could offer us some of that sort of positivity – delusion if you like – but we’ve had nothing of the sort. We all know it’s going to be a terrible season again but come on Keith, put a little sugar in the pill!

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I still think that the ‘if necessary’ with regards to the mid-season transfer window was critical and he was left zero chance of rescuing us.
Secondly, I think he did precisely the right thing trying to use ‘dead season time’ to blood loadsa youngsters and let ’em experience what it’s really like at the sharp end.

I think dismantling the squad that had played Oldham off the park and which had a modicum of potential was an odd move, especially seeing as we had a perfectly decent chance of staying up at that stage. What we saw towards the end of last season will, in my opinion, scar the club for years to come.

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Grantham had some obnoxious owner up until last year, with Carlton Palmer as manager, I wonder if they were throwing money at the club. There’s always clubs in non-league where that happens.

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Buy season tickets kids, enjoy all the excitement that you’ve come to expect in recent seasons!

I always thought Hill was a motivator, a budget Adkins, but since he’s been here it feels like all he’s done is try to get us to revise our expectations downwards. Come on Keith, give us something to dream about! Give us some hope!

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I think he’s a limited player but he does look to be turning into a leader already – I noticed a few times last season he appeared to be really helping the younger players on the pitch and I imagine that’s something Hill likes about his character.

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Bartoniron66 wrote:

Shame he got injured just as he was starting to to look useful, that’s the last two Scottish imports that have failed so think that should tell us something.

I think that’s every one of last summer’s signings now gone. Says a lot about last summer.

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Any chance of the club doing anything to get people excited for the new season?

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mistertonmick wrote:

but I don’t think his intentions where all football related and it was the extras like housing and apartments plus the sale of Glanford Park

The Lincolnshire Lakes ground development didn’t feature any housing, if I remember rightly, it was all about retail & a hotel I think.

It always seemed ambitious and so it proved.

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alcazar

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Deereyme66 wrote:

Oh well, pleased for them, they’ve lived to tell the tale and are on their uppers.

Isn’t being on your uppers a bad thing? I think it comes from shoes wearing so thin you had no sole left.

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Deereyme66

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Anonymous wrote:

In the attendance table, we were 20th of 24 with an average attendance of 2,781 in 2021-22.

That would have made us the 7th best supported at home in the NL last season.

It will certainly fall with a reduction in visiting supporters next season – Borehamwood, Wealdstone, Woking, Maidenhead etc. aren’t going to bring the sort of numbers that Bradford or Mansfield did last season.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

I can see some opposition warming to the idea of thrashing a side who was in the Championship not song long ago and whose supporters may think they’re too big for non league. Big scalp? Kind of.

Maybe – some of the clubs like Dorking which have come from way down the pyramid, for sure. But a lot of the clubs we’ll play will probably consider themselves to be “bigger” than us (whatever that means).

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Beefykeefy wrote:

Our problem next season,apart from us being crap is, with us been an ex-league club, and a big club in the NL, the smaller clubs will up their game and see Scunny as a scalp….UTI

Do you reckon? I’m not sure we’re that much of a big noise, even in this league. We’ll get a bit of an idea when the TV games are announced but I doubt we’ll be on BT anywhere near as often as Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham or even the Cods were last season.

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mistertonmick wrote:

Also a lot of players get released because of wage demands so it doesn’t mean anything nowadays players being released.

You reckon we’re paying more than Eastleigh?

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Meh. Looked quite promising when he first joined us in 2013 but never really got a chance (I remember Wilcox had a bad habit of putting him on in midfield when we were trying to hang on to a lead) but seems to have been a regular at Eastleigh for a number of years.

Might do well, we could definitely have done worse. That said, he was released by a team that finished 19th last season….

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cassidystash wrote:

Perhaps, in recent seasons, it was felt that the youngsters were not of a good enough standard to replace the senior pros

That’s a reasonable point of view. All I’d say is how many of the players purchased in the last 3-4 years were of a suitable standard?

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I dunno NI, I reckon the first season we dropped down into the 4th tier would have been a great opportunity to integrate some youth prospects. We kind of did with Levi Sutton but didn’t really commit to it.

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cassidystash wrote:

Fair point but Mussy and Daws have had plenty of time and haven’t produced a first team regular between them recently. Can’t remember the last one, Sparrow maybe?

Hakeeb? I guess it depends on how you define “regular” but you could look at players like Jamie McCombe, Marcus Williams or perhaps Sam Slocombe in slightly more recent times. You’re going back to 1999 for Sparrow!

But it’s not just down to the coaches – it’s about giving the players a proper chance. Not chucking them in to a crisis situation but also not binning them off in favour of a Premier League loanee or a flashy new signing at every opportunity.

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BigLeftToe wrote:

Callum Howe, missed opportunity? He’s a non-league clogger…maybe useful in our current plight but there’s a reason he was released whilst we were in League 1…same with Waterfall. As if they were ever going to get in front of the likes of Mirfin, Canavan and Wallace.

Maybe – it was definitely a bigger step up at the time. But perhaps if we’d properly invested in our youth team prospects rather than always buying shiny new players every 6 months, we might be in a slightly position now?

Look at Charlie Goode – brought as a development prospect, showed some real promise but given away to Northampton because we went out and bought Harrison McGahey and Byron Webster. Crazy.

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alcazar

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Awaywego wrote:

That’s not quite true is it ferrite your last 2 posts were about Grimsby, very selective when it comes to be only concerned with Scunny.

You are presumably being deliberately daft?

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It’s literally how fan-owned clubs work! See clubs like AFC Wimbledon and in Germany – club members collectively own a majority stake (the famous “50+1”) and wealthier investors can own the rest but cannot have a controlling stake. It’s the future.

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I thought Grimsby looked excellent and if they had a decent striker rather than Ryan Taylor, I think they’d have won promotion much more easily. Their midfielders – particularly Fox & Clifton – were outstanding, offering real drive to the team. Sousa was lively on the wing. Waterfall is limited but a solid stopper, their keeper looked handy and McAtee was a cut above anyone else on the pitch.

It just makes it so galling to see them winning promotion with a captain who we never gave a chance to, a manager who we sacked for reasons we will seemingly never get to the bottom of and a striker who we gave a chance to but failed to capitalise on his talent.

On the Solihull Moors side, I see Callum Howe was one of their most important players, another Scunthorpe youth product who never got a chance at the club, much like Muldoon at Harrogate. So many missed opportunities….

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Glad Grimsby won, I couldn’t face two derbies with such a gulf between the two clubs.

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Not exactly creating much buzz, excitement, feel-good factor to help sell these season tickets which apparently we are so desperate to shift.

I don’t care what other clubs are doing, I only care about SUFC and the future of our club.

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Awaywego wrote:

Piss poor I imagine just like every other club, they softened their stance on handcuffs and will now only allow pink fluffy ones.

Would that include those clubs that have committed to paying the national living wage?

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Wonder what the pay’s like.

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lesgeo wrote:

Didn’t he miss his last penalty for us?
But …

Who? Crosby? I don’t remember him missing a penalty for us, or was there one but the rebound was scored?

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Deereyme66 wrote:

We’ve had plenty of loanees who have done well in the past before Swann slammed the brakes on and when we had half decent manager’s and the dressing room was positive.

I remember watching a “Scunthorpe” team in the early years of Swann’s reign which included something like 5 or 6 loanees and it really changed the way I looked at the club. That team was pretty decent but none of those players were going to benefit our club in the long run, it was just a finishing school for richer club’s prospects. It made me question what the point was of clubs like ours.

Don’t get me wrong, the odd loan can be helpful but too often, in my opinion, we’ve favoured offering other clubs’ players a chance over our own. Of course, last season that balance went far too far the other way but on the whole I’d still rather see our own players given a chance over loanees.

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Pele wrote:

Having just read on a different thread about us leaving it to the last minute and signing up the unwanted dregs,what early signings/summer signings in the past have got you optimistic about the upcoming season?

Remember us signing Nigel Pepper I think relative early, thought that was a great signing for us at the time and gave me a bit of a urge to go renew my season ticket,Peter Morrisson followed shortly after with a promising reputation too
No Internet for rumours in them days just picked up a copy of the evening telegraph and there it was out the blue on back page

The obvious answer is 2004 with the arrival of Crosby, Baraclough & Musselwhite, all of whom – from memory – arrived in good time. Crosby in particular had been brilliant for Oxford in previous seasons and I remember being really excited about the idea of a penalty-taking centre back.

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Anonymous wrote:

Why don’t some of you find another hobby that gives you more enjoyment. I don’t think Football is for you.

I think you will find that about 1 in every 3 Scunthorpe fans did exactly that last season, not ideal when you want to have a successful club.

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Deereyme66

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Has there been any more information about the loan/mortgage which is apparently secured against the stadium? I remember seeing the announcement on Companies House but has the club or owner made any comment about it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Great news, will go along way to increasing Hills playing budget.

No excuses now!

Awaywego wrote:

End of the day they are very reasonably priced. Can’t wait for the moaning for the disparity in prices for those who don’t buy one. Hey ho.

We’ll get nowhere with only 1,000 fans, even though it’s a start, we need to find a way of growing that number much higher, you won’t do that by charging £20+ for casual fans. Hopefully the one-the-day prices will be much more reasonable this season and will reflect our new lower position in the pyramid.

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