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“and you’ve read into that an insult.” NO.
My reply was in connection with your character.

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“…Now I’ll have to see when I can get some time to answer Bill’s challenge.”
Your schoolteacher patronising,pompous,arrogance always shines through in your posts. Your insulting , “ I’m only trying to help” message which led to our fallout ( with no apology to a person you virtually knew nothing about) is systematic with your approach to life.

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May I ask ,where have you ever presented the Gospel message on this site? Besides trying to be fair and show a holier than thou attitude,and showing you are a “good”(in human terms)person,trying to show other people how to behave,where have you declared we are sinful people who need to repent and put our faith in Jesus Christ(etc) . You have declared you are a Christian,true, but as for any interactional,you declare anyone who does that is confrontation and fighting a kind of battle to be won! Our friendly disagreements led to a false character assassination about a person you hardly knew ,and an arrogant attitude than had failed to seek reconciliation.

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..I will say no more.
I will leave it to the silent Christian to give you the Gospel message ( he will apologise if he offends anyone.)

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As you have stated Siderite,we need to cooperate to get along,actually that’s not true.Take someone like Stalin,he cooperated with very few people,just his henchmen and he killed millions of people to get what he wanted.He died on his deathbed at 74 shaking his fist at God one last time,he never paid for his sins in this life
So the problem it seems is we know and you know right from wrong,and I don’t need to believe in God to know that,I just need there to be a God to justify it.
Let me put it this way,a lot of atheists say look I know right from wrong,and I agree with you,but that’s like saying I can know what a book says and deny there is an author,which is true,but there would be no book to read unless there was an author.
The same is true with morality,you can know what the right thing to do is and deny there is a God,but there would be no right thing to do unless there was a God.FT.

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..The people who say “ there is no God”,we can kill 6 million Jews or we can kill 100 million with our ideology ,did they care about “ destruction and misery”?
There is only one way to live ,and your view of reality is flawed due to your rebellion against your Creator.

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,…I’d say that’s evidence for it being something which can be deemed immoral.”
Your view is there is no God. How do you justify something is immoral? Who says?
You are continually stealing from the word of God in the Holy Bible to make sense of your world,if you did but know it.

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Keeping to the question I put to Gurnelista.
You state a humanist perspective of basing moral decisions on the foundations of the ‘golden rule’…empathy…perfect life…etc. I put it to you as well Siderite,if there is no God ( which the humanist claims),if someone comes along and thinks the complete opposite..doesn’t want empathy,perfect life,etc and wants to destroy and get all you stuff etc,if there is no God,how do you DEFEND your position you are right and they are wrong?

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Even though YOU want to be Judge over your Creator,the truth is on the day of judgement YOU will be in the dock.BUT there is Good News.

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..if a country decides it is morally right to kill 6 million Jews.or countries have an ideology that leads to the death of over 100 million is correct,your post sounds good but is illogical. Only faith in Christ,turning to God and following his truth in the Holy Bible will bring peace and happiness rather than chaos and misery.

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NO, the question I asked,Gurnelista,was if there is no God ( your opinion) how can you DEFEND your claim passing on values to kids such as honesty and kindness is the correct thing to do,if someone claimed the opposite is true?
You see Gurnelista,as you were made in God’s image,even though you are rebelling against your Creator,you have to steal from the Christian worldview to make sense of your life.

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Just Iron

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…the answer I expected .

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My point is Deereyme66, if in your worldview there is no God,you cannot DEFEND you are right in stating ,passing on values to kids such as honesty and kindness is the correct thing to do.If someone states the opposite,why are you right and they are wrong,if there is no God?

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You make no sense NI. What sort of response is that to my post? You understand my point ,but your worldview has no answer to it. Maybe Gurnelista will defend his position?

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GURNELISTA-“As for JI’s point,passing on values to kids such as honesty and kindness- which we all do or should-is quite different to indoctrinating them with mythology.”
In your worldview “there is no God”,why should all people follow your ideology of honesty and kindness ( which we all do or should!)
If totalitarian regimes come along and say, there is no God,you ideology of honesty and kindness is bollocks,we are going to do the complete opposite in order to achieve our aims of dominance and control. If there is no God ( in your opinion) why are you right and they are wrong?

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Don’t think twice-buy a ticket! My mate John Wesley Harding has already got one.

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..if there is evil in the world,what is your standard of good?

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On the surface you are indeed correct,JI. BUT, with your past history,not LIKEing ANY post I have posted ( not that you have to)is an indication of your agenda.Even a post when you stated “ how good was that”,you didn’t LIKE it )not that I’m going to lose sleepless nights over it. )Your past vindictive private comments that you “ are only trying to help” are an indication of your patronising,pompous,arrogant nature and leads to a suspicion of your “ it’s just banter” idea.

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I send this with good intentions. https://youtu.be/vSYY3HEca04?si=0939MMfMSyPUfHds

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“..no real malice intended” .unfortunately he has history to inflict intended hurt with no sensible apology.

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“Bill’s most sensible post yet.” LIKED by JI.
Besides being patronising,pompous and arrogant,your vindictive nature can be clearly seen.

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Just a quick reflection on the comment by MK Iron –
“.. have you ever watched Alfreton play? It’s effective but it’s not what I would call football. A massive no to Billy Heath for me.”
If you look at the poor part -time players Alfreton have and what they have achieved,it’s remarkable. The number of goals scored,the philosophy of “ getting the ball in the box” at every opportunity ( especially at this level of football) is effective and exiting. Do you think Billy Heath wouldn’t use his style with more subtlety if he came here?He has a great pedigree with North Ferriby and other teams. We all have our opinions and hopefully we get the right man in to replace Jimmy Dean.

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Martin Luther famously said ,If any man would ascribe even the smallest part of his salvation to his free-will ,he knows nothing of Grace and has not learned Jesus Christ.

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Alfreton have the best manager in the league,Billy Heath.
The manager who should be our manager next season.

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another fed up fan

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Your Enlightenment worldview only leads to chaos and misery. The dominant Christian worldview that has given us such peace and prosperity is being replaced by the secular humanist worldview. The consequences are dire unless there is a Spiritual revival and belief in the truth of Biblical revelation.

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I was hoping we were going to sign the keeper who was in goal for Blyth Spartans yesterday.

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Fans64- Paul Townend was that former “foetus” ( unborn baby). Thankfully he wasn’t killed in the womb.

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Over the years your view of the Grand National has been clearly stated ,Fans64.
You must have a passionate view of the killing of unborn babies in the womb as well?
Your last statement,” It should be banned deliberately putting animals in harms way is a crime” could be used for the unborn,which would be,” It should be banned deliberately putting the unborn in harms way is a crime?

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