The answer is they are all wrong.
Unfortunately I know people who think they are all right.
The book explains the Churches dilemma.
Look at the some of the reviews about the book on Amazon.
It may help some people in their Christian walk.
Take the test- how many do you agree with?
1)Salvation is within a Man.
2)we should rehabilitate a man,such as a prisoner,by finding “ good that is already in them and build upon that.
3)Undogmatic Faith should be valued and makes no difference what is believed.
4)Salvation obtained “ by our own obedience to the commands of Christ.”
5)Religion is thought to be necessary for a healthy community.
6)In practise “God exists for the sake of Man”.
7)..applied Christianity is all there is of Christianity.
How many did you agree on?
Just reading a must read book for all Christians.
“Christianity and Liberalism” by J Gresham Machen.
He points out Liberalism is an entirely different religion to Christianity.
I will post a great view from Amazon on the chapter regarding Salvation in a later post.
..and one final point from me. We were friends,you sent a a character assassination post that was unjustified to a person you hardly knew. Hurt was the result.You reply has always been,” get over it and move on. “ I have ,but you still have the high and mighty stance you were right.Shame.
“I have no confidence that a one to one would be productive”.
Deeryme-“ why don’t you just meet up again and reconcile your differences?”
The offer has been there for a long long time Deeryme,but the offer has been declined,wanting a Judge and jury encounter instead,unfortunately.
Have you repented of your “clumsy” post and offered an apology? Only a regret you used the word “ limp”
. You have not fully apologised with conviction.i have forgiven you,moved on,but you are still unrepentant. There’s the problem.”I’m only trying to help you in your Christian walk”,as the saying goes..
“..have a listen to John Lennox and Alister Mcgrath.Thats what I would do if I were you.”
I rest my case. Your low opinion and snobbery is blatantly seen in your post.
You haven’t a clue about me have you!!??
The words patronising,pompous and arrogant are words I didn’t choose lightly.
Your insulting post which led to our fallout ( which you constantly dismiss as “ get over it”) is the reason I use those words. Have I forgiven you,completely. Have I got over it,completely. But until you realise you were completely wrong ,speaking to a person you hardly knew,and unable to say sorry for the hurt inflicted ,I will consider the words fully appropriate.
“…Now I’ll have to see when I can get some time to answer Bill’s challenge.”
Your schoolteacher patronising,pompous,arrogance always shines through in your posts. Your insulting , “ I’m only trying to help” message which led to our fallout ( with no apology to a person you virtually knew nothing about) is systematic with your approach to life.
May I ask ,where have you ever presented the Gospel message on this site? Besides trying to be fair and show a holier than thou attitude,and showing you are a “good”(in human terms)person,trying to show other people how to behave,where have you declared we are sinful people who need to repent and put our faith in Jesus Christ(etc) . You have declared you are a Christian,true, but as for any interactional,you declare anyone who does that is confrontation and fighting a kind of battle to be won! Our friendly disagreements led to a false character assassination about a person you hardly knew ,and an arrogant attitude than had failed to seek reconciliation.
As you have stated Siderite,we need to cooperate to get along,actually that’s not true.Take someone like Stalin,he cooperated with very few people,just his henchmen and he killed millions of people to get what he wanted.He died on his deathbed at 74 shaking his fist at God one last time,he never paid for his sins in this life
So the problem it seems is we know and you know right from wrong,and I don’t need to believe in God to know that,I just need there to be a God to justify it.
Let me put it this way,a lot of atheists say look I know right from wrong,and I agree with you,but that’s like saying I can know what a book says and deny there is an author,which is true,but there would be no book to read unless there was an author.
The same is true with morality,you can know what the right thing to do is and deny there is a God,but there would be no right thing to do unless there was a God.FT.
..The people who say “ there is no God”,we can kill 6 million Jews or we can kill 100 million with our ideology ,did they care about “ destruction and misery”?
There is only one way to live ,and your view of reality is flawed due to your rebellion against your Creator.
